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Old 11-08-2010, 09:55 AM   #2261
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Edit: Not to mention they were totally hosed by the officials on a phantom PI call that led to 3 Chiefs points and that kickoff fumble call (returner clearly down) that KC scored the 7 critical points to take the lead. Terribly officiated game.
The officiating in that game was the worst I have ever witnessed. The phantom PI call on the Raiders was complete crap. However the Chiefs also recieved a phantom PI call later in the game. What about the Moeaki reception TD that was reviewed and reversed, right call, except the officials failed to notice that he had the first down.

That was a very tough game to watch. Penalty every other play, sometimes four plays in a row. Brutal!
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:48 AM   #2262
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The officiating in that game was the worst I have ever witnessed. The phantom PI call on the Raiders was complete crap. However the Chiefs also recieved a phantom PI call later in the game. What about the Moeaki reception TD that was reviewed and reversed, right call, except the officials failed to notice that he had the first down.

That was a very tough game to watch. Penalty every other play, sometimes four plays in a row. Brutal!
I was trying to explain what happened to my wife. I had to run through it in my head a couple times because it was so absurd. The funny part is that the officials didn't even catch it until after the next play when Cassell was sacked, the Raiders said they should get the ball and the Chiefs bench was going nuts.

There was a series in the second half where the Chiefs drove down the field solely on Raiders' penalties. I think it was right before the 4th quarter. It was so laughable. What really got the crowd going was not just the call on that fumbled punt return by the Raiders but the absolute enthusiasm in which the ref signaled Chiefs ball... despite a Raiders player leaving the scrum with the football. Hilarious.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:25 AM   #2263
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There was a series in the second half where the Chiefs drove down the field solely on Raiders' penalties. I think it was right before the 4th quarter. It was so laughable. What really got the crowd going was not just the call on that fumbled punt return by the Raiders but the absolute enthusiasm in which the ref signaled Chiefs ball... despite a Raiders player leaving the scrum with the football. Hilarious.
Tom Cable got a little challenge happy, even let the crowd influence him on challenging the TD catch in the first half. Its a scary thing to be out of challenges, especially with a horrible officiating crew working the game.

The Raiders player leaving a two minute scrum with the ball doesn't really prove anything. I have seen many times when possesion was awarded to one team even though an opposing teams player emerges with the ball.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:27 AM   #2264
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I was trying to explain what happened to my wife. I had to run through it in my head a couple times because it was so absurd. The funny part is that the officials didn't even catch it until after the next play when Cassell was sacked, the Raiders said they should get the ball and the Chiefs bench was going nuts.
The TV even said 1st and goal, however the people actually working the game forgot all about yards gained and downs. I have never seen that before.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:50 PM   #2265
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Son of Bum is no more in Dallas:

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2010/11/08/d...hillips-fired/

Jason Garrett has been named the new interim head coach. Garrett had previously been the Cowboys assistant head coach and offensive coordinator.
The Cowboys are off to their worst start since 1989, with a 1-7 record. That record includes five straight losses.
This is the first time, in Dallas Cowboys history, that a head coach has been fired mid-season.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:12 PM   #2266
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Well, People around here have been speaking about the Saban connection.....
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:27 PM   #2267
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Will that team even listen to Jason Garrett??
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:00 PM   #2268
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Might just as well say goodbye to Alex Smith right now....

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Old 11-08-2010, 03:32 PM   #2269
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Will that team even listen to Jason Garrett??
Nope. He's most likely gone at the end of the year too.

New coach next season who gets to pick his own staff.
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Old 11-08-2010, 03:47 PM   #2270
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I think the Cowboys also need a real GM as well as a brand new coaching staff.

But really, what's the chance Jerry Jones actually distances himself from the day to day activities of the team? Slim to none would be my bet.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:17 PM   #2271
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The thing with the Cowboys is that it is an orginizational issue, and i look no further than Jerry Jones.

The guy lists himself as Owner, President and GM. He should only hold ONE of those titles and that is as the guy who owns the club. President implies that he makes decisions about who runs the actual football team, starting with a GM as that positions hire. Well, when you are the Prez and the guy you hire is yourself to run the football team...every single failure comes back to one desk and that is ol jerrah's.

I am in no way saying that Wade Phillips is a good head coach or doesnt shoulder some of the blame for the dallas debacle, because a bit of it is on him. However, when you are an owner of a business, you hire a guy who hires guys to get the job done. When you are the guy who hires yourself to hire the guy to get things done and it fails.....sorry but thats on YOU.

I have no problem with the Cowboys sucking hugely for the next 4 decades...i dislike them that much, but when i am exposed to media absolutely slobbering over how this was Philips fault when no one questions the oilman running the important stuff, I find it absurd.

Jones is a joke and (much like Al Davis) needs to allow guys who know the game/personell/scouting....to do the very damn job they were hired to do. Jones is THE single biggest problem with the Cowboys...because he will write a check. He doesnt understand that money=talent=bestteam, simply wont work. He needs to hire someone to run the whole deal, let them do their job and sit back and watch how much he didnt know.
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Oh and for those who believed that Tavaris Jackson gave the Vikings a better chance to win games than Favre...are you still on that pedestal?
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Oh and for those who believed that Tavaris Jackson gave the Vikings a better chance to win games than Favre...are you still on that pedestal?
Yup, I'm still on that "pedestal".

Sure Favre won that game for the Vikings on Sunday. But if Tarvaris comes in and doesn't throw bone-headed picks and just manages the game and they pound AP, they may not have been in the situation we were in on Sunday.

BRUTAL interception inside the 10 with 8:00ish minutes left. I thought it was dead and gone at that point.

Ya sure take the bad with the good, and I'll continue to do that. But when the QB and the play caller clearly have their differences, something is wrong there.

And just because we are not all Favre apologists, doesn't mean we are on a pedestal. But thanks.
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But if Tarvaris comes in and doesn't throw bone-headed picks and just manages the game and they pound AP, they may not have been in the situation we were in on Sunday

Seriously? Tavaris Jackson is a better choice than Brett Favre? OK then. You do understand that Jackson throws INT's as well right....or is that not factored in?

Put it this way....regardless of "why" the Vikes were down 14 late (and ignoring that there was a fumble return (not by Favre) and a kickoff return for TD's that got them there) do you truly belive that Jackson would have been able to pull off what happened yesterday??


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But when the QB and the play caller clearly have their differences, something is wrong there.
Yeah...and when the play caller is clearly appearing to be an absolute powermonger and a complete idiot with multiple players over the course of 7 days, I would imagine that the entire team sees "something wrong there".


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Apologist? You should never apologize for your team winning a game...something you and Childress seemingly have no ability to do. But anyone who believes that Tavaris friggin Jackson is anywhere close to doing what Brett Favre can do when it matters is...

a) in denial

b) insane.

Your choice I guess.

Someone said that Favre was unable to be classified with those that have so many 4th Q comebacks and when I read it I laughed. Yesterday was #47 according to the FOX guys..."yeah but he throws INT's"...like no one else does.

The numbers are what they are but now that wont count either.

I apologize not for Brett Favre, but for the single best football player I have ever seen, and I do it only when those so blinded by hate for the guy cant get over that fact. He is not the guy he was even 5 years ago, but he is still a guy that knows everything about the position and his club...moreso this season than his coach does which makes me laugh even more.

Jackson>>>Favre? Laughable in any discussion of rational football talk...ever.
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Yup, I'm still on that "pedestal".

Sure Favre won that game for the Vikings on Sunday. But if Tarvaris comes in and doesn't throw bone-headed picks and just manages the game and they pound AP, they may not have been in the situation we were in on Sunday.

BRUTAL interception inside the 10 with 8:00ish minutes left. I thought it was dead and gone at that point.

Ya sure take the bad with the good, and I'll continue to do that. But when the QB and the play caller clearly have their differences, something is wrong there.

And just because we are not all Favre apologists, doesn't mean we are on a pedestal. But thanks.
With a depleted receivig corps, it's almost a given that Tarvaris Jackson is incapable of doing that.
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:01 PM   #2276
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I apologize not for Brett Favre, but for the single best football player I have ever seen, and I do it only when those so blinded by hate for the guy cant get over that fact. He is not the guy he was even 5 years ago, but he is still a guy that knows everything about the position and his club...moreso this season than his coach does which makes me laugh even more.
And I thought VANFLAMESFAN's Ronaldo-related posts were over the top.

Yep, we're all blinded by hate and that's why we pick on the guy. It doesn't have anything to do with the fact that in 2 of the last 3 seasons, he's been a key component to his teams missing the playoffs. Maybe your insufferable love for Favre is blinding you to the fact that he's costed his teams games as well as won games for them (including two NFC Championships). Yes he is/was a great player but he's an incredilby high risk/high reward type player, who can also be incredibly selfish and petulant. That's what people don't like about him.
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Heh I bet Ronaldo texts girls pictures of his junk too.
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Bengals self-destruct early.
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and then the bengals have a punt blocked.... LOL
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Wow the Bengals are a bad team. Why didn't they run it again on 3rd and 1. They had run the first 4 times for 20 yards. Now the punt is blocked.
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