Calgary Civic Election: Mayoralty Poll #4 - The Heat is On

[malcolmk14]

I voted Nenshi this morning. No line-up at all in subdivision 612. In and out in under 5 minutes.

[Zee]

I may have voted for Nenshi, but I am sick of purple. When this is all over, the real work begins, holding these guys accountable and making sure they stop wasting our money.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Delgar

The Nenshi love fest around here can be pretty annoying. I found it annoying until I jumped on board.

Honestly, I found that its making me question voting for him. Just to see the reaction if he loses. Plus its now starting to sound like the guy is amazingly tubular awesome.

Its way too much hype.

[tete]

Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

+1

and by nonscientific polling (having met my neighbours in the parking lot of the station) out of three votes we have:

McIvor 1
Nenshi 2

Marr 1
Pashak 2

Therefore I conclude Nenshi and Pashak will get 66% if the vote and win.

Any place I can get a quick rundown on Mar vs. Pashak? I am completely ambivalent about the Ward 8 aldermanic race right now - and will have to make up my mind sometime in the next hour and a half.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Honestly, I found that its making me question voting for him. Just to see the reaction if he loses. Plus its now starting to sound like the guy is amazingly tubular awesome.

Its way too much hype.

I, for one, am happy that people are getting this passionate about local politics.

Just because someone is hyped doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for them. Do you agree with his policies? That's probably more important to consider than his hype is.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by tete

Any place I can get a quick rundown on Mar vs. Pashak? I am completely ambivalent about the Ward 8 aldermanic race right now - and will have to make up my mind sometime in the next hour and a half.

Mar supported McIver's watered-down version of Plan-It while Pashak supports curbing urban sprawl. They obviously have other differences in their platforms, but that's the big one for many people.

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by Madman

"Good afternoon, JJ Gallow at your service."

thanks for the milk up my nose, a$$hole

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Honestly, I found that its making me question voting for him. Just to see the reaction if he loses. Plus its now starting to sound like the guy is amazingly tubular awesome.

Its way too much hype.

Its going to be tough for him to deliver on all the hype. Especially in a neutered position like mayor, he really only has 1 vote.

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by Muta

I, for one, am happy that people are getting this passionate about local politics.

Just because someone is hyped doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for them. Do you agree with his policies? That's probably more important to consider than his hype is.

Amen to that. It's soooo terrible seeing people get excited about things.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Its going to be tough for him to deliver on all the hype. Especially in a neutered position like mayor, he really only has 1 vote.

That is true. Nenshi himself has stated over and over that it isn't going to be easy. There is a lot of change that needs to be made and it won't happen quickly. It will happen a lot quicker if we have a city council that can actually work with one another though.

Nenshi is a detail guy. I like that. It is a lot easier to make a whole bunch of smaller changes that will lead to something big than to go in and try to revolutionize the entire system. There is a lot of bureaucratic inertia to fight against. Hopefully, he can build some coalitions with the rest of council to get things moving if he is elected.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Muta

I, for one, am happy that people are getting this passionate about local politics.

Just because someone is hyped doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for them. Do you agree with his policies? That's probably more important to consider than his hype is.

there's a difference between getting passionate for politics, and people getting pushy about the whole thing, and I'm not just talking about this board.

Its not only the amount of hype, but the fact that the majority of the Nenshi supporters that I've talked to have been pushy beyond pushy.

I'm a sceptic by nature, but there's a difference between a policy statement and the execution of the policy statement. do his policies hit some of the points that I'm looking for? Sure, but to me this whole thing and maybe it was because of the pushiness of people trying, not to debate on the merits of the candidate, but outright push me to a candidate to the point where I just want them to shut the hell up, makes me worry about the execution.

To me one of the greatest campaigns that have ever been run were by Obama, and by JFK, they were saavy enough to study the voters, they catered their campaigns to their voters, won on hype and a mobilized group of believers to fuel the hype machine, and then really fell flat once they gained their desired position of power.

I could sit here and say that a lot of what Dr No is something that I agree with, but his previous conduct really puts me off, but to his credit, I haven't been pushed, and jabbed and cajolled by his supporters in the same way, so in a lot of ways I don't have that same overpromised and underdelivered gut instinct.

[Trojan97]

I finally got a chance to pop in. Chalk up one more for Naheed.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by tete

Any place I can get a quick rundown on Mar vs. Pashak? I am completely ambivalent about the Ward 8 aldermanic race right now - and will have to make up my mind sometime in the next hour and a half.

I find Mar to be very two-faced in how he has worked over the last term, talking about what a great thing the living wage policy would be and then voting against it. I don't think he can take much credit for the beat cops, I hardly saw him out there championing it. He seems to give very little in his answers and votes based on how the tide is turning.

Pashak is young, eager, started the Sled Island music festival, some great music venues in the city and is a passionate Calgarian. I voted for him on those reasons, plus I think he will work well with Nenshi if we are lucky enough to get them both in.

Mar will go and play provincial or federal politics anyways if he loses, don't worry about him.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

there's a difference between getting passionate for politics, and people getting pushy about the whole thing, and I'm not just talking about this board.

Its not only the amount of hype, but the fact that the majority of the Nenshi supporters that I've talked to have been pushy beyond pushy.

I'm a sceptic by nature, but there's a difference between a policy statement and the execution of the policy statement. do his policies hit some of the points that I'm looking for? Sure, but to me this whole thing and maybe it was because of the pushiness of people trying, not to debate on the merits of the candidate, but outright push me to a candidate to the point where I just want them to shut the hell up, makes me worry about the execution.

To me one of the greatest campaigns that have ever been run were by Obama, and by JFK, they were saavy enough to study the voters, they catered their campaigns to their voters, won on hype and a mobilized group of believers to fuel the hype machine, and then really fell flat once they gained their desired position of power.

I could sit here and say that a lot of what Dr No is something that I agree with, but his previous conduct really puts me off, but to his credit, I haven't been pushed, and jabbed and cajolled by his supporters in the same way, so in a lot of ways I don't have that same overpromised and underdelivered gut instinct.

Your logic assumes the President and Mayors have the ability to single-handedly pass laws and bylaws. Under-delivering is usually the fault of the house or council respectively.

I like the fact you compared Nenshi to JFK and Obama though

[Knut]

Anyone have any thoughts on the Ward 11 Aldermen ?? I am leaning Maxim because he has the best shot at taking out Pincott.

[yads]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Your logic assumes the President and Mayors have the ability to single-handedly pass laws and bylaws. Under-delivering is usually the fault of the house or council respectively.

I like the fact you compared Nenshi to JFK and Obama though

I think that's the big thing. Which of the current hopefuls have a chance to galvanize council? McIver hasn't shown that ability in 9 years.

[FurnaceFace]

My view is Mar really did nothing in his term. He had the opportunity to be a leader in the West LRT and from my observations he didn't. As a result I'd like to give someone else the opportunity.

Also Pashak was the only candidate who I felt actually got out and campaigned. I receive nothing from Mar's team and received 3-4 from Pashak and had a somewhat personal "I'm sorry I missed you" type note in my mailbox.

[nik-]

I just voted at Sunnyside elementary. It wasn't very busy, a 5 minute wait if that, but the volunteer's said it had been busy all day.

ALL HAIL OSCAR FECH AS SUPREME LEADER!

[MarchHare]

Also Pashak was the only candidate who I felt actually got out and campaigned. I receive nothing from Mar's team and received 3-4 from Pashak and had a somewhat personal "I'm sorry I missed you" type note in my mailbox.

A friend of mine hosted a wine and cheese event in her apartment for Pashak. He showed up (without any handlers or aides) and discussed our issues and concerns for about two hours. I was really impressed that he made that kind of effort for only 12 voters, most of whom were probably already in his camp. I didn't agree with everything he said, but I had more in common with him than not, particularly on my #1 issue.

[Bigtime]

I am really curious to see if Pashak has the support to upset Mar, you really don't get a good sense of the aldermanic races versus the race for mayor. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised in ward 8.