10-12-2010, 12:35 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: @robdashjamieson
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Originally Posted by welshboy2008
Well I did not know that any of the BOB HAWKSWORTH supporters had NENSHI sigs?? They are the ones calling out people. If anyone wants the correct information, including those who live outside Calgary, feel free to go to www.nenshi.ca and check the facts, not the fiction.
Bob was a good Alderman and should have ran for this again. He will be missed by his Ward. |
You don't think Nenshi's official website doesn't have spin? Bob is playing the game as much as you are directing someone to his site. I'm not saying it's wrong, I am saying its a little pot calling the kettle black.
In both cases, the vote should do their own research to become informed, and not rely on what comes out of the candidate's mouth/website to sway their vote.
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10-12-2010, 01:22 AM
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Redundant Minister of Redundancy
Self-Banned
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Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire
I think most of McIver's support is going to come from people that still have trouble programming their VCR's, while Nenshi's fan base can all organize a weekend getaway, plan dinner for the week, program their PVR's, listen to music AND get directions to their voting area in less than 10 minutes each all from their cell phones.
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Well thank god someone invented cell phones. How these old McIver voters even survived prior to the advent of youthful politicos like yourself almost beyond understanding.
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10-12-2010, 01:53 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Prototype
In both cases, the vote should do their own research to become informed, and not rely on what comes out of the candidate's mouth/website to sway their vote.
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I'm curious as to how I'm supposed to do research into the candidates' positions on the issues while ignoring what they say their positions are?
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10-12-2010, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: @robdashjamieson
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Originally Posted by getbak
I'm curious as to how I'm supposed to do research into the candidates' positions on the issues while ignoring what they say their positions are?
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My comment was made to the idea of going to a candidate's official website for the 'truth'. I'm not pro-Bob or anti Nenshi. I don't even know why I came into this thread in the first place. I just found it comical that those with Nenshi sigs were the ones taking shots at Hawkesworth.
And it's good your curious. Listen to what they say, but understand that actions speak louder than words, and we're experiencing a campaign trail. All candidates are doing lip service or playing the game.
Just don't vote by what people on CP are saying or what information is providied on a candidate's official website. That's not getting informed.
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10-13-2010, 11:20 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bitter, jaded, cursing the fates.
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Originally Posted by CrusaderPi
Well thank god someone invented cell phones. How these old McIver voters even survived prior to the advent of youthful politicos like yourself almost beyond understanding.
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I am hardly a politico. In fact, I'm auctioning my vote to the highest bidder.
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10-13-2010, 11:30 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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10-13-2010, 11:34 AM
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something else haha
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Someone made a great comment in the Calgary Herald comments section online:
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Let's compare Higgins' and Hawkesworth's main campaign platforms.
Renegotiate the ring road - Higgins Yes - Hawk - No
Remove $3 Park & Ride Fee - Higgins Yes - Hawk - No
Build airport tunnel - Higgins Yes - Hawk - No
Build SE LRT - Higgins - ? - Hawk - Yes
Municipal gov't experience - Higgins - No - Hawk - Yes
And now Hawkesworth suddenly feels that Higgins would make the best mayor of Calgary?
This either means that he has now come to realize that everything that he stood for was horse maure, or he has made some sort of a deal with Higgins for his support.
If you were going to vote for Hawkesworth, don't just blindly follow his 'advice' - reasearch the other candidates and make an informed decision.
Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Ha...#ixzz12GEoOj1w
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This makes ZERO sense why he is endorsing Higgins. His personal fued's with McIvor and Nenshi are basically the only reason for his endorsement for Higgins.
This guy is a complete joke.
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10-13-2010, 11:57 AM
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#48
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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Dear Bob
A wet dog with a note in its mouth could capture 5% of the vote. Nice job on your campaign.
Sincerely
One happy voter.
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10-13-2010, 12:03 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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I seriously am wondering how the hell Higgins is the leading candidate when her sole qualification is reading off a teleprompter for the last 74 years.
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10-13-2010, 12:08 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dan02
I seriously am wondering how the hell Higgins is the leading candidate when her sole qualification is reading off a teleprompter for the last 74 years.
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firstly I am undecided voter
Secondly her job for the last 74 yeas required much more then teleprompter reading. A person in her position are out and about at many many community events, they have a tap on whats going on in this city.
As far as her experience goes, it isn't that much of a big deal to me, she surrounds herself with good people, she will be just fine.
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10-13-2010, 12:17 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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The problem with Barb is that I tried to find something she actually STANDS for, but I can't.
McIver and Nenshi at least stand for things.
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10-13-2010, 12:21 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Dan02
I seriously am wondering how the hell Higgins is the leading candidate when her sole qualification is reading off a teleprompter for the last 74 years.
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I dont have a dog in the fight so this is coming from a very neutral place.
Anyone who truly believes that^^^ statement needs to get informed.
Those who get to an anchor position as she did, has years of really hard work and long hours behind them and it usually starts at the grass roots level of civic events/politics. She has done so much more than just "sit and read off a teleprompter"....that is a really unfair statement.
Even when she was anchoring the news its not like her and Janz just walk in at 5:55 and sit down and start reading what is put in front of them. They are involved at all levels of all stories long before they reach the air. She has a pulse on the city because of what she has done in her profession. Doesnt mean she is the best candidate in any way, shape or form, but she also shouldn't be disqualified because of her past profession either. Everyone starts somewhere. and if experience is a necessity, then Nenshi should be DQ'd under the same guideline.
This coming from a guy who if he still llived in Calgary and was to vote next week would be voting for someone other than Higgins. But not because she was a news anchor for 20 years, that would be a ridiculous reason.
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10-13-2010, 12:23 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by REDVAN
The problem with Barb is that I tried to find something she actually STANDS for, but I can't.
McIver and Nenshi at least stand for things.
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McIver stands against things. Barb's sole purpose in running seems to be preventing McIver from being Mayor.
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10-13-2010, 12:32 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dan02
I seriously am wondering how the hell Higgins is the leading candidate when her sole qualification is reading off a teleprompter for the last 74 years.
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A person could have said the same thing about Ralph Klein, if I recall he was successfull in that position.
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10-13-2010, 12:34 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by transplant99
I dont have a dog in the fight so this is coming from a very neutral place.
Anyone who truly believes that^^^ statement needs to get informed.
Those who get to an anchor position as she did, has years of really hard work and long hours behind them and it usually starts at the grass roots level of civic events/politics. She has done so much more than just "sit and read off a teleprompter"....that is a really unfair statement.
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Sure. But she also has no formal education in political science, economics, project management, urban planning, civil engineering, or any other field of academia that would bring benefit to the position.
If Barb Higgins can be mayor, it mostly speaks to the relative harmlessness of the position, given that it clearly has few if any academic or experiential based requirements.
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10-13-2010, 12:36 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: KenKingsinton
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I posted to Twitter at 2 am last night that this was going to happen. It's no surprise at all. Hawkesworth decided to go for who he thought would win. He berated Nenshi constantly, and even McIver. On the "top issues", Higgins is in the same camp as Nenshi, so this is a complete joke. He just doesn't want to lose to A) McIver (a man he conflicted with so often) and B) Nenshi (a man who challenged him in previous Aldemanic races).
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10-13-2010, 12:44 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by flambers
A person could have said the same thing about Ralph Klein, if I recall he was successfull in that position.
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Klein was a reporter, not an anchor. His specialty was covering municipal politics (sometimes from the St. Louis Hotel!). Comparing his experience to Higgins is like putting Ken King up against Iginla in a skills competition. They both work in the same company/industry/etc. afterall...
Edit: And I'm not even a Klein fan...
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10-13-2010, 12:45 PM
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by sclitheroe
Sure. But she also has no formal education in political science, economics, project management, urban planning, civil engineering, or any other field of academia that would bring benefit to the position.
If Barb Higgins can be mayor, it mostly speaks to the relative harmlessness of the position, given that it clearly has few if any academic or experiential based requirements.
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It makes me cringe when I read things like this. As though people think that to do anything in life, one must first go to university and get a degree in it. Such a pile of crap. Eh, a quick peak at Bronco's wikipedia reveals that he doesn't have a degree in being a mayor either. In fact, he's a uni drop out. OMGZ!
If all the entrepreneurs in Calgary that don't have degrees got up and left, this city would look pretty damn different. So just give it a rest about her education already.
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10-13-2010, 12:53 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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I want barb to win just to see cp go nuts and lose their minds!
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10-13-2010, 12:57 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2004
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My problem with Barb is not her background or education, it is the fact that she says she is plugged into Calgary and knows the issues, then proceeds to talked about improving EMS and how they are expanding the LRT stations to support 5 cars.
She has a platform but when questioned about how she is going to implement it, she has no answers.
Chris
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