2010 NFL Regular Season Thread

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Sowa

I don't know because I haven't watched the games, but how long is the defense on the field for each game? You can have a monster D but if it is on the field for the whole game they are going to get worn out.

That could definitely be a contributing factor, however, the 49ers are ranked 23rd in INTs, dead last in forced fumbles (zero), and 27th in sacks. So whether they're on the field a lot because their offense stinks or not, they're not making any plays other than just catching the ball handler several yards down the field.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...S&d-447263-n=1

I think Singletary is more of a mouth piece than an actual coach. He needs 2 big-time X's and O's coaches (off. coordinator and def. coordinator) to compliment his ability to look angry, give tough-guy interviews and yell at players/media/refs/coaches.

[Bobblehead]

Manusky has been the def. coordinator since 2007, so that is why he gets a bit of a pass up to this point; he has already proven he can coach a strong D.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Sowa

I think the Chiefs are way ahead of where I thought they would be. I don't know if they are quite a playoff team yet, but they have the potential to be in the mix. I still don't really buy Cassell as a QB that will ever make them a contender, but we will see. I thought best case for the Chiefs was 7-9 before the season started.

I actually think Thomas Jones has had a pretty positive impact on the Chiefs team. Most of the Jets I heard interviewed this offseason all talked about Jones being a great leader and a great team mate. I understand why teams move on from veteran players at times, and I'm not saying the Jets were wrong to release Jones. But he was the type of leader that the Chiefs needed to get on the offensive side of the ball. He may be driving fantasy owners crazy right now, but I think his off field example has been great for the Chiefs.

I also think there is a method to the madness as Jones will take the early pounding, and later in the season when defences are banged up and playing backups, Jamaal Charles will be unleashed on them a lot more.

I also agree that Matt Cassel has some pretty substantial limitations. But the last QB who managed to last more than two seasons in KC had a lot of the same problems. Trent Green had a pretty weak arm, but with time to throw the ball, and a solid running game they eventually devised a scheme to make him a pro bowl QB. Pioli, Weiss, and Crennel are all well aware though that if they ever want to be a team who wins playoff games, they need an answer at the QB position.

Originally Posted by flames_1987

Great road win for a Colts team, missing a few key players on O.

It's only week 3 but it's looking like there's a very good chance we could see another MVP award for Peyton.

69 percent completion rate 9 touchdown 0 ints

Lets be honest, there is only one key player on that Colts offence and it is Manning. At this point in his career you can surround him with sub par talent at every position and he'd still keep that team competitive. He's got a good enough line, and guys like Clark, Wayne, and Collie are all different levels of elite, to above average talent that he has to work with. As a result the Colts continue to be an elite team. In the time that Peyton Manning has started every game for the Colts you can go through a laundry list of guys that other teams have tried to use. In the case of the Chiefs I think it goes Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, and Matt Cassel. Thats 6 different guys and they're hardly the worst of the bunch, some teams like the Browns are well over 10!

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

BTW, what the heck is the deal with Shaun Smith grabbing at crotches? 2 games in a row he has been accused of it. I suppose that triggered Anthony Davis to get an unsportsmanlike penalty, but still, wtf.

It is pretty dirty. First I read about it was this morning. Seems to have worked pretty good so far in getting the other team to commit a penalty. However, the league and officials will be looking for it now. Maybe its his way of coming out of the closet.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Here's why the Chiefs are better than most anticipated.

1. Best special teams in the league. When you start with great field position (Arenas/McCluster) and can pin teams back (Colquitt) and have a reliable kicker (Succop) you have a great advantage that is underestimated by most fans.

2. KC's inisistance on a defensive youth movement three years ago is paying dividends. Guys like Tamba Hali, Brandon Carr, Derrick Johnson and Brandon Flowers have developed into good to great players at their positions. KC's secondary is one of the most underrated in the league. They are young and experienced which is a deadly combination.

3. Running game-The Chiefs don't have the weapons necessary to go down the field on teams. But they have just enough to keep teams honest. The experience on the OL and the ability to trot out two great tailbacks all day allows them to work the clock and wear down defenses.

I don't think the Chiefs will make the playoffs (I could be wrong) but they have taken significant steps forward this year and there is no reason at all to think that they won't continue to do so.

[OILFAN #81]

I am interested to see whether it will be Green Bay or Pittsburgh that goes unbeaten the longest. Looking at the schedule, I think GB will be the last unbeaten team.

PS.......I think GB will beat Chicago tonight (if Chicago were to win then replace GB with Chicago as the original question but I think Packers win tonight) and Kansas City loses their next game.

[FlamingLonghorn]

A quick blurb from Peter King's column today on cnnsi.com

"The number of arrests, per team, in the AFC East since January 2009, when Rex Ryan was named coach of the Jets:
Miami: 6.
Buffalo: 5.
New England: 1.
New York: 1.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz10lP4s2YH"

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Here's why the Chiefs are better than most anticipated.

1. Best special teams in the league. When you start with great field position (Arenas/McCluster) and can pin teams back (Colquitt) and have a reliable kicker (Succop) you have a great advantage that is underestimated by most fans.

2. KC's inisistance on a defensive youth movement three years ago is paying dividends. Guys like Tamba Hali, Brandon Carr, Derrick Johnson and Brandon Flowers have developed into good to great players at their positions. KC's secondary is one of the most underrated in the league. They are young and experienced which is a deadly combination.

3. Running game-The Chiefs don't have the weapons necessary to go down the field on teams. But they have just enough to keep teams honest. The experience on the OL and the ability to trot out two great tailbacks all day allows them to work the clock and wear down defenses.

I don't think the Chiefs will make the playoffs (I could be wrong) but they have taken significant steps forward this year and there is no reason at all to think that they won't continue to do so.

Another huge impact is the additions of Romeo Crennel and Charlie Wiess. Last season Mr. Wonderful (Todd Haley) thought he could be a rookie head coach along with being the offensive coordinator and quarter backs coach all at once. Now he can just be the head coach and Wiess can design and call plays.

Romeo Crennel has already had a huge impact on this defense. The young experienced players that you mentioned Dis are playing very well under the new coordinator. Add Glen Dorsey to your list of young players with experience.

Another rookie who is turning heads in KC is TE Tony Maeoki. He leads the team in receptions and has two TD receptions so far. His TD catch yesterday is one for the highlight reels. This guy is going to make us forget #88 if he keeps playing at this level.

[Bobblehead]

Sounds like the Scott Pioli hire is paying off.

[burn_baby_burn]

Here is a video of the TD catch by rookie TE Tony Moeaki yesterday. (the video is blocked at my work so I'm just guessing it works).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_740161.html

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Sounds like the Scott Pioli hire is paying off.

So far, personally I wasn't expecting much last year. However when your team gets their butt handed to them week after week, it can get a little frustrating and I may have vented a time or two.

The one thing that still baffles me is his love affair with Matt Cassel. If Pioli is such a keen judge of football talent. Why can't he see that Matt Cassel was a backup in college for a reason? It just doesn't make any sense to me. (In all fairness to Matt he played pretty good yesterday).

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

and Kansas City loses their next game.

What a bold prediction! You mean to tell me that a team that has won 10 games over the previous three seasons is going to lose on the road to the defending AFC champions and reigning NFL MVP? You need to take your show to Vegas.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

What a bold prediction! You mean to tell me that a team that has won 10 games over the previous three seasons is going to lose on the road to the defending AFC champions and reigning NFL MVP? You need to take your show to Vegas.

I should! Thanks.

I actually thought Syl was going to be the one to respond to my comment.

PS......in 1 game, anybody can beat anybody. We have seen it so many times.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Sowa

I don't know because I haven't watched the games, but how long is the defense on the field for each game? You can have a monster D but if it is on the field for the whole game they are going to get worn out.

"Monster" D's aren't on the field the whole game though.

SF is not in that realm right now.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

I should! Thanks.

I actually thought Syl was going to be the one to respond to my comment.

PS......in 1 game, anybody can beat anybody. We have seen it so many times.

Unlike a lot of Oiler fans, I'm no dillusional fool when it comes to my team. If they go into Indy and beat the Colts, I'll strip down naked and run around the block a couple of times. I don't think Peyton Manning is going to let the Colts overlook the Chiefs.

But I must admit a lot of Colt fans tick me off with their current arrogance. It wasn't that long ago they were finishing 1-15 and drafting Jeff George while the Irsay's were still considered bumbling fools who deserted a great football market in Baltimore for Indianapolis for a few dollars.

So when you and your other Colt fan buddies laugh at the Chiefs....I actually look at the Colts and how they hired Bill Polian as their GM, and how he managed to get that team turned around. Pioli certainly doesn't have the track record Polian does having built the Bills teams that went to 4 straight Superbowls, and the expansion Panthers who got to the NFC Championship in their second year. But he did learn under Belichick and Parcells who have both been pretty successful. I'll be quite pleased if Pioli can emulate the success Polian has had.

Than again 3 of the Chiefs last 4 playoff losses have been at the hands of the Colts, so that may explain why I sort of hate them. Even though I can admit they have a top flight operation that's going to continue to be successful so long as #18 is getting the ball on offence. Although if thats how this years season ends for KC, I'll be quite happy.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by transplant99

"Monster" D's aren't on the field the whole game though.

SF is not in that realm right now.

Monster D's can be on the field the whole game. Look at some of the early Jets games of last season when Sanchez was turning over the ball every other possession and all their points were scored by defense and special teams.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Unlike a lot of Oiler fans, I'm no dillusional fool when it comes to my team. If they go into Indy and beat the Colts, I'll strip down naked and run around the block a couple of times. I don't think Peyton Manning is going to let the Colts overlook the Chiefs.

But I must admit a lot of Colt fans tick me off with their current arrogance. It wasn't that long ago they were finishing 1-15 and drafting Jeff George while the Irsay's were still considered bumbling fools who deserted a great football market in Baltimore for Indianapolis for a few dollars.

So when you and your other Colt fan buddies laugh at the Chiefs....I actually look at the Colts and how they hired Bill Polian as their GM, and how he managed to get that team turned around. Pioli certainly doesn't have the track record Polian does having built the Bills teams that went to 4 straight Superbowls, and the expansion Panthers who got to the NFC Championship in their second year. But he did learn under Belichick and Parcells who have both been pretty successful. I'll be quite pleased if Pioli can emulate the success Polian has had.

Than again 3 of the Chiefs last 4 playoff losses have been at the hands of the Colts, so that may explain why I sort of hate them. Even though I can admit they have a top flight operation that's going to continue to be successful so long as #18 is getting the ball on offence. Although if thats how this years season ends for KC, I'll be quite happy.

My comment was a joke Syl. I don't overlook anybody. I love what the Chiefs are doing and hope they go 15-1 (ok maybe 12-4 or 13-3 as I don't see Indy winning more then 13 games this year). on the season. I love it when teams turn it around and get back to a respectable level. As a Colts fan, I know what it is like. Forget the 1-15, 3-13 in Manning's 1st season was brutal enough. All I said was that I think KC would lose to the Colts. I didn't mean to make it a big thing(burn_baby_burn made it a big thing with his comment about I didn't make a bold prediction by predicting that). I wasn't disrespecting KC in any way shape or form. I cheered for their effort against San Fran last week. They just shut up and play.

Heck, go check some of the comments I made about the Chiefs and congratulating them on their wins in the first few weeks. I respect them.

PS............Indy won't blow out KC (to your stripping down naked comment). I think it will be a single digit score difference.

[OILFAN #81]

Hester returns it for a TD..........where have I heard that before? 14-10 Bears in the 4th.

I don't get to see the Bears as much as some other teams but I love the heart of their team. Chicago has gotten A LOT better then previous years. Whether Green Bay wins or Chicago does, both are good teams.

[Beerfest]

Nice run by Rodgers!
Touchdown Packers!

[OILFAN #81]

2 boneheaded plays by the Packers results in 30 yards in penalties.