Modern Day Casanova Ideas

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I'd advocating throwing a rock at her myself. That is what we used to do in Elementary.

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[enthused]

Well, it's official! alltherage knows dick all about women.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

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So that is what atr looks like!

[Eastern Girl]

Originally Posted by enthused

Well, it's official! alltherage knows dick all about women.

Not so sure about that, he saw right through to the heart of me.

[alltherage]

Originally Posted by enthused

Well, it's official! alltherage knows dick all about women.

Suit yourself... I was just chiming in with my opinion hahahaha... just don't take it all too seriously.

[enthused]

Originally Posted by alltherage

Suit yourself... I was just chiming in with my opinion hahahaha... just don't take it all too seriously.

Yes well, I'm just chiming in with a woman's point of view. And that point of view is that you are lucky to have found a wife with those so called tactics of yours.

[alltherage]

Originally Posted by enthused

Yes well, I'm just chiming in with a woman's point of view. And that point of view is that you are lucky to have found a wife with those so called tactics of yours.

Maybe so... but again I was just playing devil's advocate really. Playing hard to get can't be a new concept to you... and you don't have to like it. It just works!

Jeeze here come the pitchforks eh? Sorry everyone... but I'm not going to sit here and tell you it's not true. It is.

[enthused]

Originally Posted by alltherage

Maybe so... but again I was just playing devil's advocate really. Playing hard to get can't be a new concept to you... and you don't have to like it. It just works!

Jeeze here come the pitchforks eh? Sorry everyone... but I'm not going to sit here and tell you it's not true. It is.

Sure it may work, but it doesn't mean you're exactly scoring the cream of the crop. Any girl that falls for that hard to get crap probably isn't really a "top prospect".

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by alltherage

Jeeze here come the pitchforks eh? Sorry everyone... but I'm not going to sit here and tell you it's not true. It is.

If you're trying to pick up a 15 year old.

[alltherage]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

If you're trying to pick up a 15 year old.

OK yea my wife is an ugly 15 year old... :|

Haha I wasn't trying to be personal here!

Originally Posted by enthused

Sure it may work, but it doesn't mean you're exactly scoring the cream of the crop. Any girl that falls for that hard to get crap probably isn't really a "top prospect".

Instead of making personal attacks, why don't you tell us how to pick up women without playing games?

Let me guess, be creative, show her you are genuinely interested in her. Remember things because you are such a good listener. Look her in the eyes and make her feel beautiful and special.

The thing is, both require lots of effort and both can be disingenuous manipulation. One is just coated with extra sugar.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Date other people. Don't just stick around hoping that things will change. It isn't really worth your while and you'll end up resentful of the years that you waited.

If she wants you, she will come back...and, at that point, you can decide whether or not you want to pursue it. Who knows? She may come back and you've found out that you've moved on from that situation.

If she doesn't come back, at least you've given yourself a chance to find someone else. Hopefully, you've learned the lessons of your last relationship and can apply them to your next one.

[FlamesAddiction]

I was watching "Keys to the VIP" before, and that was a tactic that one guy used successfully to pick up women. He would find a girl that he was interested in and then go and talk to her and her friend and ask them an opinion on something. He would agree with the friend and disagree with the girl he was actually interested in and then start talking to the friend.

The other girl then tried hard to impress him after. It worked in that setting and he claimed that it was a fool proof tactic. Personally, I don't believe in tactics... there is either an attraction and chemistry, or there isn't. If there is, then things will come about naturally.

I do have to say though, I met my wife because one of her friends was interested in me and I do think that it sparked a bit of competition. Also, I find that now that I am married, I am more attractive to women with a ring on then without.

[opendoor]

I'm a little surprised at the reaction to ATR's posts. While I agree that's probably not the best course of action for this scenario, people are simply kidding themselves if they don't think they can be influenced by tactics like he's talking about.

There are tons of things like neurolinguistic programming and whatnot that people use in many situations (business, teaching, etc.) to influence others and exert control in situations. It's not a matter of making someone "fall for something" or tricking them, it's just using peoples' natural responses to situations to put yourself in the best position to succeed. There's nothing insidious or dishonest about it, it's just often one of the most efficient ways to do many things (make people like you, make people want to invest in your business, make people listen to you, etc.).

If people think they're above being influenced by such tactics because they're intelligent and mature, they're not being honest with themselves. Everyone has natural responses to different things that can be used by someone to help color your opinion of them. It doesn't mean we're stupid or insecure, just that we're humans.

[Yeah_Baby]

I hate the idea of 'picking up'. Woman aren't a commodity to be traded.

[alltherage]

Originally Posted by opendoor

I'm a little surprised at the reaction to ATR's posts. While I agree that's probably not the best course of action for this scenario, people are simply kidding themselves if they don't think they can be influenced by tactics like he's talking about.

There are tons of things like neurolinguistic programming and whatnot that people use in many situations (business, teaching, etc.) to influence others and exert control in situations. It's not a matter of making someone "fall for something" or tricking them, it's just using peoples' natural responses to situations to put yourself in the best position to succeed. There's nothing insidious or dishonest about it, it's just often one of the most efficient ways to do many things (make people like you, make people want to invest in your business, make people listen to you, etc.).

If people think they're above being influenced by such tactics because they're intelligent and mature, they're not being honest with themselves. Everyone has natural responses to different things that can be used by someone to help color your opinion of them. It doesn't mean we're stupid or insecure, just that we're humans.

I'm out of Thanks. I think people are just reacting this way because people's natural reaction is to reject being sterio-typed, or to reject someone telling them who/how they are.

[alltherage]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I hate the idea of 'picking up'. Woman aren't a commodity to be traded.

And yet this post comes off as an ultimate brown nose to the women reading the thread. You'd be an expert at getting into the friend zone!

[REDVAN]

alltherage... this guy is not talking about picking up a bar chick. Everyone knows the Mystery method works on that type of girl (sluts). I sincerely hope you did not use the "be a dick to her" method to snag your wife at a bar.

This guys is talking about a girl he dated for 7 years, and apparently he messed up and they broke up. What exactly did he do, I might have missed it, but there's really two major things he could have done to break up a 7 year relationship.

1) Somehow betray her (cheating, lying, hiding things etc)

2) Not have the same goals for the future (marriage, kids, jobs etc).

If it's 2, he's screwed and it's over unless he can demonstrate to her what his goals are and they are similar enough to hers to get over the issue.

If it's 1, the only way to get her back is to apologize (beg, as I mentioned above but you didn't think was a good idea), and work towards him changing and her understanding the issue in the first place.

If you and your wife get into a huge fight sometime, and you really f'ed up, like cheated on her or something, do you honestly think they best way to get her back is to be mean and rude to her? I'm pretty sure apologizing and asking her to forgive and fix things (aka BEGGING) would work better.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by alltherage

And yet this post comes off as an ultimate brown nose to the women reading the thread. You'd be an expert at getting into the friend zone!

You should have heard me in my curriculum class the other day, I went all militant feminist on Conservative Carl.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I hate the idea of 'picking up'. Woman aren't a commodity to be traded.

All of you freaky people with your new agy ideas about how the world work.

Now, where's my good datin club.

[alltherage]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

alltherage... this guy is not talking about picking up a bar chick. Everyone knows the Mystery method works on that type of girl (sluts). I sincerely hope you did not use the "be a dick to her" method to snag your wife at a bar.

This guys is talking about a girl he dated for 7 years, and apparently he messed up and they broke up. What exactly did he do, I might have missed it, but there's really two major things he could have done to break up a 7 year relationship.

1) Somehow betray her (cheating, lying, hiding things etc)

2) Not have the same goals for the future (marriage, kids, jobs etc).

If it's 2, he's screwed and it's over unless he can demonstrate to her what his goals are and they are similar enough to hers to get over the issue.

If it's 1, the only way to get her back is to apologize (beg, as I mentioned above but you didn't think was a good idea), and work towards him changing and her understanding the issue in the first place.

If you and your wife get into a huge fight sometime, and you really f'ed up, like cheated on her or something, do you honestly think they best way to get her back is to be mean and rude to her? I'm pretty sure apologizing and asking her to forgive and fix things (aka BEGGING) would work better.

It doesn't just work on bar chicks, and thank you but no, my wife and I did not meet at a bar. We did, however, have a courtship where I "played games" ... she knows all about it now... and we have been in an awesome 8 year relationship ever since.

And when/if we do get into an argument, which we rarely do, I stand up for my ideas when I know I am right, but submit to her readily if she is right.

Turtling and reclusive behavior isn't manly and women like men. Some times you have to hold your ground, and some times, even as a husband, I still play games a little bit. She does too. We understand it perfectly, and even though we're "keen" to the tactics, we still fall for them... and it makes it more fun to get back home, or go on dates, or spend quality time. It reminds us that we are both lucky to have each other because yes, opportunity knocks for each of us every day. The difference is, there is only one opportunity that we both take up- and it's to be together.