Calgary Civic Election Poll #3: The race heats up

[Ducay]

Barry Erskine is in apparently

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Ya, just look at NYC or any European city. There are no children. There are no dogs, and there is definitely no street hockey.

I'd even argue that New Yorkers have one of the best backyards available to them than anyone else - Central Park.

Here in Calgary, we have all kinds of first-class parks that I could use instead of a backyard - and I wouldn't have to be paying property tax on them, either.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I was referring to condos right downtown. Sounds like you're in a neighbourhood outside the core itself.

There are very few new and existing residential condos right downtown anyways. The majority of new developments and future residential density increases are going to be taking place in neighbourhoods surrounding the core. This is what the whole discussion is about, so trying to argue downtown CBD issues in relation to residential isn't all that valid.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

There are very few new and existing residential condos right downtown anyways. The majority of new developments and future residential density increases are going to be taking place in neighbourhoods surrounding the core. This is what the whole discussion is about, so trying to argue downtown CBD issues in relation to residential isn't all that valid.

Related to your point, I can also say that there will be more grocery stores downtown in the near future. I know of one area that's definitely getting one.

[MarchHare]

With respect to this thread's poll, you can subtract one from Hehr's column and add another vote to Nenshi now that the former has pulled out of the race.

[Knut]

I recently bought a house in Garrison Green, which i would consider inner-city. 10 minute access to downtown, 17th Avenue and Chinook CEnter. I looked extensively in Altadore, Garrison Woods, Garrison Green, Killarney, South Calgary, and Parkhill at infills, semi-detached homes and detached homes. There is a lot available, and alot of room in these places for future infills. Especially in the Killarney and Altadore areas. There are lots of parks, lots of familys and young professionals. I know that money is an issue for some, but for us we had everything we needed within 5 or 10 minutes. We are close to downtown, but also work (approx 15 minutes). 15 Dollar Cab rides to the Saddledome and McMahon Stadium.

With the C-train going west I think we should see a similar revitalization of the Glamorgan, Westgate, Sprucecliff and more of Killarney.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Byrns

How many of these residents will now suddenly change their minds and decide to walk to work once the bridge is built? What % are using the existing infrastructure?

Probably very few. But what I'm more or less getting at is that both are frivolous, at least to a certain degree, but the difference is that one of them is being used by the people that pay some of the highest taxes, and the other one cost 6x the amount and is being used by peopel that paid some of the lowest taxes, or no taxes at all.

I maybe should have used Crowchild as an example. Sorry, residents of Tuscany and Cochrane, I don't support all the overpasses all the way down Crowchild so that you could get to Kensington Rd or 5th stree to stop. Those should be overpasses or at least improved intersections way before Nose Hill Drive.

The people in the inner city are paying the bulk of the taxes, but the bulk of the taxes are being spent on the outer city. That's BS, AFAIC.

edit* looks like fotze beat me to it.

[surferguy]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I was referring to condos right downtown. Sounds like you're in a neighbourhood outside the core itself.

I am on the other end of the beltline, I have two grocery stores within walking distance, around the corner I have two parks, and a third massive park (lindsay park) a italian deli and new meat only deli opening. C-train is a five minute walk, in two directions. In my condo building there are 7 dogs (31 building unit) and 5 cats. Three families (two kids each).

My g/f commute to work is 12 mins, walking. I am a contractor so I am everywhere in the city, but I am 90% counter traffic flow.

It sounds to me like you maybe have never lived downtown? It is possible that your perception is a bit skew as to quality of life.

Personally I am looking for a home, but the last thing I want is to be out in the far flung suburbs, I hate that I would have to get in a car to get to the grocer that is 5 mins away or get milk whatever. I am trying to get a inner city home as close to d/t as possible so my g/f commute is as low as possible.

A lot of poeple forget that if there commute was shorter to get to work say 15 mins instead of an hour that is more time with your loved ones, potentially upwards of 1.5hr each day or 7.5 each work week.

[Madman]

Barry Erskine is now in.

http://www.calgarysun.com/news/calga.../15409761.html

[Ducay]

Connelly filed, looks like Bob will too (which is good, as he will split the dumbo votes with McNo)

[shermanator]

Originally Posted by fotze

Ya, but you're a doctor, Mr. Moneybags. or should I say Dr. Moneybags.

Where is Garrison Green in relation to Garrison Woods? Is that that weird area sort of kitty korner to Lakeview where Glenmore and Crowchild intersect.

Garrison Green is directly West of Garrison Woods. Basically it's south of Richmond Road and West of Crowchild.

[MarchHare]

I recently bought a house in Garrison Green, which i would consider inner-city.

It's funny the different definitions people have of what constitutes "inner-city" or "downtown". My personal (and admittedly arbitrary) criteria is that it has to be within a reasonable walking distance from the core, so that means Beltline, Sunalta, Lower Mount Royal, Mission, Sunnyside, Kensington/West Hillhurst, Inglewood, Bridgeland, etc.

If you have to drive or take transit to get to work or run most errands, it's not "inner city living", IMO.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Connelly filed, looks like Bob will too (which is good, as he will split the dumbo votes with McNo)

Bob will split votes with Ric? You must mean Connelly will.

Sigh of relief here... that Bob filed for mayor.


Both Slava and I are all registered.....Know everyone has been waiting with baited breath...LOL

[MarchHare]

Bob will split votes with Ric?

For the segment of the population that votes based on little more than name recognition, yes.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

For the segment of the population that votes based on little more than name recognition, yes.

Exactly, I can see the crotchety old demographic splitting between Dr.No and Mr. No Tunnel

Originally Posted by First Lady

Both Slava and I are all registered.....Know everyone has been waiting with baited breath...LOL

Bated breath

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Bated breath

That too.

[Byrns]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Exactly, I can see the crotchety old demographic splitting between Dr.No and Mr. No Tunnel





Bated breath

All 3%ish that are voting Hawksworth. Bank that!

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by Byrns

All 3%ish that are voting Hawksworth. Bank that!

Hey now, 3% less for Dr.No is better than 3% more!

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by surferguy

I am on the other end of the beltline, I have two grocery stores within walking distance, around the corner I have two parks, and a third massive park (lindsay park) a italian deli and new meat only deli opening. C-train is a five minute walk, in two directions. In my condo building there are 7 dogs (31 building unit) and 5 cats. Three families (two kids each).

My g/f commute to work is 12 mins, walking. I am a contractor so I am everywhere in the city, but I am 90% counter traffic flow.

It sounds to me like you maybe have never lived downtown? It is possible that your perception is a bit skew as to quality of life.

Personally I am looking for a home, but the last thing I want is to be out in the far flung suburbs, I hate that I would have to get in a car to get to the grocer that is 5 mins away or get milk whatever. I am trying to get a inner city home as close to d/t as possible so my g/f commute is as low as possible.

A lot of poeple forget that if there commute was shorter to get to work say 15 mins instead of an hour that is more time with your loved ones, potentially upwards of 1.5hr each day or 7.5 each work week.

That is pretty much the Bigtime family right now. I know, shocking that someone with a child is living in an inner-city condo tower! Oh the horror!

We too are looking to move into a house or townhome in the near future, and have kept our inner-city wish list to:

-Sunnyside
-Hillhurst
-Cliff Bungalow/Mission

Just like yourself, we do not want to give up that extra family time (not spent commuting) and abundant amentities within walking distance of where we live.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by fotze

Ya, but you're a doctor, Mr. Moneybags. or should I say Dr. Moneybags.

Where is Garrison Green in relation to Garrison Woods? Is that that weird area sort of kitty korner to Lakeview where Glenmore and Crowchild intersect.

Yeah it is where the old barracks housing were. Quiet area with only one way in and out. 3 parks and lots of young families.

Killarney, Altadore, Richmond Hill all have decently prices single family dwellings. Same with South Calgary. Garrison Woods is the high end area and really we found it was more expensive than it should have been.

I see inner city as 10 minutes to downtown driving or VIA bus or Cab.

If you expand your definition of inner city like that then you can really increase the amount of space available for close to downtown areas to raise your family.