Dealing with Cats

[driveway]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Completely different situation.

If my cat gets out, and drinks antifreeze that was accidently spilt on the ground from a car leak, then that is a tragedy and definitely my fault.

Arguably, it's the fault of the anti-freeze manufacturers, who choose not to add a simple bitterant to their products, as is required by law in Orgon, California and most of Europe.

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

Do you really think that humans and cats are equivalent?

In one of your previous posts, you argued that flowerbeds and cats were equivalent and that damage to one could warrant the destruction of the other.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Care to give me your home address? I have a really nice ass kicking you can have for free.

Calm down, it's not like I suggested throwing them into the river.
I guess green text can't be assumed. I'll be sure to include it for you next time.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by driveway

Arguably, it's the fault of the anti-freeze manufacturers, who choose not to add a simple bitterant to their products, as is required by law in Orgon, California and most of Europe.

That's why I've stock piled plenty of bitterant-less antifreeze and use it sparingly... I don't want to have to jump over to Nevada or Arizona for a refill.

[The Yen Man]

If it were me and both the neighbours and bylaw refuse to do anything about it, I'd round them up and drop them off in the middle of a highway somewhere. That'll teach the irresponsible neighbours.

[IliketoPuck]

I never said I thought that cats and humans are the same. I just made a comparable situation, where without proper supervision, a tragedy can occur.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to break up a post into 5 different paragraphs and then deliver one liners to make yourself look better.

The real issue is people knowlingly wanting to harm an animal, when there is a humane solution. Just because the cats are allowed to roam outside, doesn't mean they are any less loved than any other pet. Would you feel remorse if your dog or neighbours dog drank some of that antifreeze?

I know I would feel terrible if I accidently hit someone with my car, even though I had taken every precaution to avoid doing any harm. The end result (death) is still the same. An unavoidable accident (the leaking car for example) is not what is being debated here, because even with innocent intent, sometimes horrible things happen that can't be avoided.

However if you leave a dish of poison out for an animal with the express intent of causing it harm, I think you are a sick individual, and really need to give your morals a strong re-think.

[dissentowner]

I am not sure how to deal with it but please don't hurt the cats. It is not their fault that their owners are idiots. The cats are just being cats, they don't know any better.

[The Yen Man]

They should start urinating on the neighbour's front door until the cat problem is solved.

[jayocal]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

If a tuna-antifreeze casserole is to strong for you, a humane trap and a drive to your nearest Vietnamese restaurant or 30 miles out of the city is the next best action.

I hate cats. Cats that roam outside of their owners' property are no different than vermin and should be treated as much.

On a much larger scale, humans are by far the Earth's worst vermin. Should humans be treated as such as well??

Roaming cats are just another part of city living. Learn to co-exist or gtfo!

[Dion]

Attach some outside speakers to the house and play sounds of dogs barking...

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by jayocal

On a much larger scale, humans are by far the Earth's worst vermin. Should humans be treated as such as well??

Roaming cats are just another part of city living. Learn to co-exist or gtfo!

That's really the issue, how much of a disturbance are these cats actually causing? Honestly I don't know if a cat goes and takes a crap in my yard while i'm at the office for the day, but it wouldn't matter either way.

So long as the cat doesn't have a litterbox in my house, everything's good.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by jayocal

Roaming cats are just another part of city living. Learn to co-exist or gtfo!

I couldn't agree more! Take your cat dumps in your own backyard or gtfo to the country to face coyotes, hawks and miles and miles from shelter courtesy of my trap and car.

[GrrlGoalie33]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

That's really the issue, how much of a disturbance are these cats actually causing? Honestly I don't know if a cat goes and takes a crap in my yard while i'm at the office for the day, but it wouldn't matter either way.

So long as the cat doesn't have a litterbox in my house, everything's good.

My neighbours have a large and quite nice vegetable garden in the back that the cats continue to use as a litterbox and the males spray on.

Also, as I mentioned before, my neighbors are terrified of cats and often walk out their back door to find 5 or 6 cats sitting on their back deck.

Nuisance or not, it is their property that they do not want these cats on - that in itself should be a good enough reason.

[burn_this_city]

They should leave the hose on the deck and spray the little s. A couple good soakings and they'll figure it out.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

That's really the issue, how much of a disturbance are these cats actually causing? Honestly I don't know if a cat goes and takes a crap in my yard while i'm at the office for the day, but it wouldn't matter either way.

So long as the cat doesn't have a litterbox in my house, everything's good.

Have you or your wife or kids ever tried to do the flowerbeds, when they are full of cat sh1t. It's not fun, it is a huge litter box.

People who let their cats roam the neighborhood, and not expect them to not show up one day are idiots. Probably just happens sooner in some neighborhoods than others.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by driveway

In one of your previous posts, you argued that flowerbeds and cats were equivalent and that damage to one could warrant the destruction of the other.

I did no such thing.

[IliketoPuck]

A few humane traps and a trip to the spca solves their problem pretty quick.

Also growing a pair with regards to animals doesn't hurt either.

When they come to you about problems with spiders because they are scared of them too, make sure to hold their hand when putting down some sticky paper.......

[jayocal]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

They should leave the hose on the deck and spray the little s. A couple good soakings and they'll figure it out.

Agreed. Methods like this are well within reason.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Frankster

My neighbours have a large and quite nice vegetable garden in the back that the cats continue to use as a litterbox and the males spray on.

Also, as I mentioned before, my neighbors are terrified of cats and often walk out their back door to find 5 or 6 cats sitting on their back deck.

Nuisance or not, it is their property that they do not want these cats on - that in itself should be a good enough reason.

Are they aware that other animals also crap outdoors, and probably have done so already in their garden?

Refer them to this link: http://www.calgary.ca/DocGallery/BU/...erks/33m90.pdf

This is the humane way, but they will probably still euthanize the cats, which they can do after 5 days.

I didn't mean to come across as an ass, but really if these people weren't "terrified" of cats it probably wouldn't be such a big issue.....

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

I never said I thought that cats and humans are the same. I just made a comparable situation, where without proper supervision, a tragedy can occur.

A cat dying is not even close to the tragedy of a child dying. They are not comparable situations.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to break up a post into 5 different paragraphs and then deliver one liners to make yourself look better.

Because I like to quote exactly what I'm responding to. It makes it easier for people to read.

The real issue is people knowlingly wanting to harm an animal, when there is a humane solution. Just because the cats are allowed to roam outside, doesn't mean they are any less loved than any other pet. Would you feel remorse if your dog or neighbours dog drank some of that antifreeze?

Those dogs shouldn't have been there either. If your so-called humane solution doesn't solve the problem, then you've got to solve it yourself. And if their owners really loved them they wouldn't allow them to venture into dangerous situations such as a neighbour's yard where it is known they are not welcome.

However if you leave a dish of poison out for an animal with the express intent of causing it harm, I think you are a sick individual, and really need to give your morals a strong re-think.

So you're against putting out poison for mice and rats then?

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Frankster

My neighbours have a large and quite nice vegetable garden in the back that the cats continue to use as a litterbox and the males spray on.
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He should lob all that crap back over the fence into his neighbors yard.