09-08-2010, 12:21 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by troutman
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I believe I saw a prediction (Don Banks) for the Raiders to make the playoffs as a wildcard team.  I'm not sure if I share his enthusiasm about the Raiders turning things around that much but I would be pretty disappointed if they finished behind the Chiefs or Broncos.
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09-08-2010, 12:41 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
NFL Sucks... CFL rules!!!!
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I thought the three consecutive INTs on Labour Day pretty much summed the CFL up in a nutshell for me.
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09-08-2010, 12:45 PM
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#24
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: N/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
NFL Sucks... CFL rules!!!!
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So do you also agree that the
NHL Sucks, and the KHL rules!!!
I stay out of the pro CFL threads because of what I think about that game. You probably should stay out of our thread with comments like that.
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09-08-2010, 12:46 PM
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#25
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
The SF Defense should be very strong. The only real soft spot they have on that side of the ball is at corner and if they can get to the QB like they were doing the last 4 games of last year then that makes the secondary look a whole lot better.
On the offensive side they should be better and get better as the season rolls along. They won't be prolific, but they should be better at controlling the ball. As the 1st rounders get better the line will have more confidence. Smith has already shown to make better reads under pressure but it remains to be seen if this still holds true in the regular season.
So I can see the Niners being a 10-6 team in the playoffs and scaring whomever they come up against.
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There is a bit of a recent trend in the NFL where the team winning the Superbowl didn't make the playoffs the previous season. I really think the Niners can take advantage of a pretty suspect Division and post a good enough record to get some home playoff games. It's not much of a stretch to see the Niners being 6-0 against the NFC West, than add in the AFC West and they could be 9-1 without too much trouble. Find a way to split the other 6 games and that's a 12-4 record which should get you a bye in the playoffs, and from there who knows.
The Niners and Steelers would be my two non-playoff teams from last year most likely to win the Superbowl. In the case of the Steelers, getting Roethlisberger's suspension reduced to 4 games is huge. That coud mean the difference between a 2-2 start verses a 2-4 start. Even a 1-3 start is better than 2-4 because you still have a couple extra weeks to get on the right track and rack up some wins.
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09-08-2010, 12:48 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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I may be biased a little, but also critical of the team too...with that being said I don't think the NFC West should be handed to SF either, and that SEA has a decent chance.
SEA has the second easiest schedule in the league, and still the main core (even though half the roster has changed) from last year, where, even after all the debalces, were a couple key last minute losses away from being within striking distance of the Niners at the end.
All the turnover may factor in to things this year, but I think SEA has a legitimate shot in the weakest division, of going 9-7 with their schedule. Carroll has brought a lot of positivity and energy, something also lacking the past few years.
As always, rests on the QB position. FINALLY, for the first time since Trent Dilfer left,there's a backup that has the confidence of the coach in Whitehurst. Thus if Hasslebeck starts up with his horrible decision making and throwing rainbows to no-one (and then throwing his hands up in confusion) as he has done since Superbowl XL, he will get yanked. No longer does he have the coach (Mora) to coddle him, and his "give me a 5 minute break to think first about yelling at me, plus you can't pull me because Seneca Wallace is the useless backup Mike Holmgren" routine won't fly with Carroll.
There are question marks about the running game still in order to have a balanced attack, and the need for a WR to emerge from the pack as a go to guy, but defense is young from up front and at LB and in the secondary, and going to get better, and ST are pretty good for Seattle.
Again, in the NFC West, there are question marks everywhere on each team, and, with them having such a light schedule, they wil lplay a lot of teams that aren't complete teams either, so its not out of the realm to have SEA right there, assuming Hasslebeck plays at a solid, consistent, mistake free level, and has a few guys make plays for him.
Big game to start...beat SF Week 1 and they're setup, IMO, to control their divsion title hopes early.
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09-08-2010, 12:49 PM
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#27
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
I thought the three consecutive INTs on Labour Day pretty much summed the CFL up in a nutshell for me.
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I think he's saying that to get a rise out of people and shouldn't be taken seriously. In the CFL you get guys retiring to become an Insurance Adjuster so they can make some real money (my dad was an adjuster for 20 years hardly a lavish living). It's like those Senior Mens hockey leagues where a big time sponsor pays a couple ringers to play with the rest of the average joes who are getting beer and gas money.
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09-08-2010, 12:50 PM
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#28
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
I thought the three consecutive INTs on Labour Day pretty much summed the CFL up in a nutshell for me.
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Not this again. In three down football the ball is put at risk much more than the NFL. There will be more turn-overs. More pass plays, more plays overall (the clock does not run down as much as the NFL). It is very rare to see three in a row, even in the CFL.
I enjoy both leagues.
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09-08-2010, 12:56 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
Not this again. In three down football the ball is put at risk much more than the NFL. There will be more turn-overs. More pass plays, more plays overall (the clock does not run down as much as the NFL). It is very rare to see three in a row, even in the CFL.
I enjoy both leagues.
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No, you have to pick a league and completely discredit and criticize the other. Oh, and go into the other league's thread and take a few shots to get the CFL v. NFL debate reignited in case any arguments on either side haven't been flushed out yet.
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09-08-2010, 12:57 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
I may be biased a little, but also critical of the team too...with that being said I don't think the NFC West should be handed to SF either, and that SEA has a decent chance.
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Honestly I don't think the Hawks are going to be very good at all this year. Say what you want about Houzmanzada but who's going to pick up his production and Hasselbeck's days of being a quality starter are over. Better hope Whitehurst is ready because he will play this year.
IMO the AFC & NFC West divisions have such bad and mediocre teams that you can almost pencil in the titles to the Niners & Chargers.
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09-08-2010, 03:45 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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It looks like someone tried to impersonate Michael Crabtree on twitter:
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MaioccoCSN
RT @Crab15 can you please verify me account? what are the steps I need to take? > For one, I'd say stop Tweeting DURING 49ers practice.
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09-08-2010, 04:39 PM
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#32
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
NFL Sucks... CFL rules!!!!
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Please. That is like comparing the NHL to the AJHL. NFL is heads and shoulders way better then the CFL. The biggest thing is that the players are way better. Take my Colts for example. They signed the CFL Defensive Player of the year John Chick and he couldn't make the roster so he is on the practice roster (where he will still be making $120,000). More talent all around in the NFL and it's not even close.
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09-08-2010, 05:08 PM
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#33
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
Please. That is like comparing the NHL to the AJHL. NFL is heads and shoulders way better then the CFL. The biggest thing is that the players are way better. Take my Colts for example. They signed the CFL Defensive Player of the year John Chick and he couldn't make the roster so he is on the practice roster (where he will still be making $120,000). More talent all around in the NFL and it's not even close.
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What a load of crap, the NFL is picking from a better talent pool in the NCAA. A lot of those same players are playing in the CFL, its not like we have a bunch of nobody hacks playing. You use one example of the Colts, what about the other defensive player of the year Cameron Wake? Hes taking Jason Taylors job, but the CFL is a talentless league with junk.
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09-08-2010, 05:13 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteLFan
What a load of crap, the NFL is picking from a better talent pool in the NCAA. A lot of those same players are playing in the CFL, its not like we have a bunch of nobody hacks playing. You use one example of the Colts, what about the other defensive player of the year Cameron Wake? Hes taking Jason Taylors job, but the CFL is a talentless league with junk.
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Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
Please. That is like comparing the NHL to the AJHL. NFL is heads and shoulders way better then the CFL. The biggest thing is that the players are way better. Take my Colts for example. They signed the CFL Defensive Player of the year John Chick and he couldn't make the roster so he is on the practice roster (where he will still be making $120,000). More talent all around in the NFL and it's not even close.
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Good. Use original and ground breaking arguments. Let the hate flow through you.
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09-08-2010, 05:16 PM
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#35
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteLFan
What a load of crap, the NFL is picking from a better talent pool in the NCAA. A lot of those same players are playing in the CFL, its not like we have a bunch of nobody hacks playing. You use one example of the Colts, what about the other defensive player of the year Cameron Wake? Hes taking Jason Taylors job, but the CFL is a talentless league with junk.
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Of course there are still some good players in the CFL. I was saying that the NFL players as a whole have a lot more talent then the CFL players as a whole do which is why I like one league and not the other (didn't say anything about the reason as to why one has more talent over the other, access to NCAA, etc).
But yeah, this is an NFL thread so lets stay on topic and talk about the better league, the NFL.
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09-08-2010, 05:16 PM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
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What about 1st round picks like Lawerence Phillips, great player he is, couldnt even make a team in the CFL. Now he is in jail somewhere making Lil Wayne his boyfriend.
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09-08-2010, 05:19 PM
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#37
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Lifetime Suspension
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Back to the NFL, Samuel Bradford looked great in pre season, with the loss of Avery, and the acquisition of Clayton hopefully he can put up some numbers.
Don't understand picking Jason Smith 2nd overall, and then make him the right tackle. Hes being top dollar for the right side. The argument is that he is a better run grader, and the Rams run to the right side. I hope the line holds up, as Marc Bulger was molested on every play.
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09-08-2010, 05:32 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteLFan
What about 1st round picks like Lawerence Phillips, great player he is, couldnt even make a team in the CFL. Now he is in jail somewhere making Lil Wayne his boyfriend.
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What do you mean? He was great in Montreal his first year up here. Didn't he lead the league in rushing that year? I think he could've been decent in Calgary too if we had a team around him back then. It was during the Feterik circus days when the team was a joke. I remember watching him take a hand-off, immediately get swallowed up in the backfield because we had no OL to speak of, do his patented spin and a couple jukes to break a couple tackles & get back to the LOS, and then eventually get brought down. His problem up here wasn't skill, but rather the same reason he couldn't stick in the NFL(and the reason he's in jail now): attitude.
And since its an NFL thread, one more day baby!! I can't wait to see unky Favre digging his ass out of the grass every 3rd play. Let's get it!
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09-08-2010, 05:46 PM
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#39
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Watching 7ungo Giving Up Goals A 5 Year Old Could Stop!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sainters7
What do you mean? He was great in Montreal his first year up here. Didn't he lead the league in rushing that year? I think he could've been decent in Calgary too if we had a team around him back then. It was during the Feterik circus days when the team was a joke. I remember watching him take a hand-off, immediately get swallowed up in the backfield because we had no OL to speak of, do his patented spin and a couple jukes to break a couple tackles & get back to the LOS, and then eventually get brought down. His problem up here wasn't skill, but rather the same reason he couldn't stick in the NFL(and the reason he's in jail now): attitude.
And since its an NFL thread, one more day baby!! I can't wait to see unky Favre digging his ass out of the grass every 3rd play. Let's get it!
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According to CFL.ca John Avery lead the league in rushing in 02. But I won't trust that site.
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09-08-2010, 05:47 PM
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#40
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sainters7
What do you mean? He was great in Montreal his first year up here. Didn't he lead the league in rushing that year? I think he could've been decent in Calgary too if we had a team around him back then. It was during the Feterik circus days when the team was a joke. I remember watching him take a hand-off, immediately get swallowed up in the backfield because we had no OL to speak of, do his patented spin and a couple jukes to break a couple tackles & get back to the LOS, and then eventually get brought down. His problem up here wasn't skill, but rather the same reason he couldn't stick in the NFL(and the reason he's in jail now): attitude.
And since its an NFL thread, one more day baby!! I can't wait to see unky Favre digging his ass out of the grass every 3rd play. Let's get it!
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Think you guys will be in Dallas for the big show again this year? Seems that people are giving 4 teams a shot from the NFC: Saints, Packers, Vikings, Cowboys.
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