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Old 09-02-2010, 04:35 PM   #41
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The issue of ladies nights is funny and ridiculous. I hate it when people choose something so petty and trivial and make a big deal out of it.

The idea of the pendulum swinging the other way and now working against men is an interesting one.

Entirely anecdotal on my part, but as someone who has spent far too long in university...there does seem to be a significant difference in gender makeup throughout the campus. The bias in education I think is a real one, and you don't really ever hear much about it.

Also, if anyone here has ever thought about taking the gender sociology course offered at U of C and is male, I would ask you to rethink. That was the most anti-male class I have ever had and was amateurishly instructed. Either a real agenda was at play when I took this course many years ago, or some interesting people congregate for this course to ream out their male counterparts.
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Fist Flush 4, Fist Flush 5................................................
Does anyone actually pay attention to those things?
Oh, do they ever! And they get their...um...various undergarments in QUITE a knot over them. Look that test up on google, go to the main site for it. If you are really in the mood, check out some of the commentary over the movies, and see the various applications of the test and whatnot. You will see some folks get pretty twisted over it.

Or, you could look up and read up on some of the feminist 'reviews' of movies. That's always an eye-opener. I have often maintained that if you look for something hard enough, you can find just about anything you want to justify it. The current crop of 'feminism' certainly fits that bill.

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Oh, do they ever! And they get their...um...various undergarments in QUITE a knot over them. Look that test up on google, go to the main site for it. If you are really in the mood, check out some of the commentary over the movies, and see the various applications of the test and whatnot. You will see some folks get pretty twisted over it.

Or, you could look up and read up on some of the feminist 'reviews' of movies. That's always an eye-opener. I have often maintained that if you look for something hard enough, you can find just about anything you want to justify it. The current crop of 'feminism' certainly fits that bill.
Fun site. I like reading reviews like that.

Also some good trolling in there (hermaphroditic aliens in district 9 possibly counting).
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:00 PM   #44
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No it hasn't.

Here is a very simple test which you can apply to film and television which quite clearly demonstrates just how anti-female modern society is. It's called "The Bechdel Test".

It's a test which you can use to determine if a film is "Feminist" or not. A film passes the test if it meets the following criteria:

If, at any point through the film, two female characters who both have names that the audience knows, have a conversation that is not about a man.

That's it. That's the whole test. Now name five films released this year that can pass it. Hell, name two.
Lots of movies pass. Including, as has been pointed out, lesbian porn. I'm sick of hearing about the Bechdel test. If a film fails to have at least two male characters who fail to talk to each other about anything other than women, would the Bechdel test advocates raise the same kind of stink?
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Funny enough, I was watching Tyra today (I'm a girl fyi). It was about sexual fantasies that couples wanted to reveal to each other. Ok, clearly not an intellectual show, but anyways. There was one girl who wanted to put panties on her boyfriend and put him in a cage. I'm thinking, "whatever floats your boat" and then thought, "what if it was reversed???". Tyra went off thinking it was so funny and awesome, etc. But if it was a guy there saying he wanted to cage his girlfriend as a fantasy he'd be held up by his balls!!

That's all.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:02 PM   #46
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This one makes sense because of the German definition of San Diego - A whales Vagina.

http://www.spike.com/video/anchorman-definition/2740113

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Women out-earn men by 15 percent.
Female Median: $30,000
Male Median: $26,000
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Funny enough, I was watching Tyra today (I'm a girl fyi). It was about sexual fantasies that couples wanted to reveal to each other. Ok, clearly not an intellectual show, but anyways. There was one girl who wanted to put panties on her boyfriend and put him in a cage. I'm thinking, "whatever floats your boat" and then thought, "what if it was reversed???". Tyra went off thinking it was so funny and awesome, etc. But if it was a guy there saying he wanted to cage his girlfriend as a fantasy he'd be held up by his balls!!

That's all.
No he wouldn't. Lots of girls are into that kind of thing.
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Funny enough, I was watching Tyra today (I'm a girl fyi). It was about sexual fantasies that couples wanted to reveal to each other. Ok, clearly not an intellectual show, but anyways. There was one girl who wanted to put panties on her boyfriend and put him in a cage. I'm thinking, "whatever floats your boat" and then thought, "what if it was reversed???". Tyra went off thinking it was so funny and awesome, etc. But if it was a guy there saying he wanted to cage his girlfriend as a fantasy he'd be held up by his balls!!

That's all.
Maybe by the ignorant. There's a huge S and M subset of the population, including tons of women who would just love to be in a "cage."
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Maybe by the ignorant. There's a huge S and M subset of the population, including tons of women who would just love to be in a "cage."

Who are we to judge?

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S & M rules!

And this S&M also rules:

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Feminists cling to the 20% wage gap as if it were gospel. But I absolutely believe that especially at the new-grad to intermediate level in today's Canadian society, men and women are completely equal. This article merely strengthens my belief in this.
Just speaking from my experience as a recent graduate from the UofC's business program but I would agree with this. Although this might have something to do with my being in Marketing, which is somewhere between a 60/40 or 70/30 gender split (female/male).
-sidepoint, I used to be a comp sci major which was more like 2/98

I don't know anybody who ever looked down on somebody in a class or group project simply because they were of the fairer sex. Some of my female colleagues have already got fantastic jobs as well.

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Also, if anyone here has ever thought about taking the gender sociology course offered at U of C and is male, I would ask you to rethink. That was the most anti-male class I have ever had and was amateurishly instructed. Either a real agenda was at play when I took this course many years ago, or some interesting people congregate for this course to ream out their male counterparts.
I considered taking a course or two because I have a (male) friend in Gender studies. To be honest, by the end of my second year he had turned me off of it. I'll let my own values guide me instead of inviting that kind of attitude.
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You're making a lot of broad statements without citing anything....and though you have such a vague statement as this:

"did you know that 70% of violence on children is committed by mothers on their children?"

when its clearly false. For murders of children, things are pretty much straight down the middle (http://www.canadiancrc.com/Child_Abuse/Child_Abuse.aspx) with biological fathers/mothers at the exact same number. For such things as sexual assault, molestation, etc., 80% of all child abusers are the father/step father. (http://www.safekidsbc.ca/statistics.htm)

But keep on making drive by statements without backing them up.


well my apologizes I quoted Australian numbers.

Are my numbers off sure...but take a look at these

is that too drive by for you still?


http://thenononsenseman.com/femme-fishbowl/child-abuse/

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Old 09-02-2010, 11:58 PM   #54
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Edit: it looks like my work here is done.

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have you seen double standard commercials that if the roles were reversed they would get yanked off the air?
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Which ones?
I heard this argument a few years back and I paid attention for a few months and found it was a shocking number. Watch how often men are portrayed as bumbling idiots and women are portrayed as coming to the rescue. It's particularly bad in cleaning product commercials where it's often the stupid dad who makes the mess.

In a similar vein, what would the perception be if Homer Simpson or Peter Griffin or most of the idiotic sitcom dads out there were a woman instead?

From a quick search, here is one example of an idiot man in a commercial:



To be fair, I have the same hatred for the Axe shower gel commercials and their ilk.
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From Spreading Misandry

Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young argue that since the 1990s men have been portrayed in popular culture as evil, inadequate, or honorary women, from Designing Women, Home Improvement, Oprah, and Cape Fear to Hallmark cards, comic strips, and the New York Times columns of Anna Quindlen. The first of a three-part series, Spreading Misandry offers an impressive critique of popular culture to identify a phenomenon that is just now being recognized as a serious cultural problem - misandry, the sexist counterpart of misogyny.

Nathanson and Young urge us to rethink prevalent assumptions about men that result in profoundly disturbing stereotypes that foster contempt. Spreading Misandry breaks new ground by discussing misandry in moral terms rather than purely psychological or sociological ones and by criticizing not only ideological feminism but other ideologies on both the left and the right.
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^^well that was my point if somebody has to be told for examples they just are not paying attention.


A frickin commercail where a guy is equated to a dog!!

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^^well that was my point if somebody has to be told for examples they just are not paying attention.


A frickin commercail where a guy is equated to a dog!!
Cumon, we've all eaten dog treats by accident one time or another...
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Here's an example that always gets me. I wonder how far a guy would get if he walked down the street with a t-shirt stating "Girls are dumb, throw rocks at them."

But you see the reverse version of that from time to time...
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To be fair, I have the same hatred for the Axe shower gel commercials and their ilk.
I find this comparison slightly off-base. Basically for advertisers to target men, they use beautiful, or capable (Canadian Tire power tool commercial) women. To target women, they use ######ed men.

I find a much larger problem with the latter than the former.
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