It doesnt matter whether its Republican, Democrat or Tea Party.
Power Corrupts. Special interest and lobby groups always form domestic and foreign policy agendas.
The two party system and constant election coverage from CNN, even 2 years away from a presidential election is a facade. It's a diversion.
The president doesnt have any real power.
The bankers, lobbyists, and richest 1% of the world do.
In a July poll, one-third of Americans said they had a favourable opinion of Sarah Palin, heavily skewed to Republicans and more heavily skewed to evangelicals. That was basically unchanged from two years ago.In the same poll, 16% of Americans indicated they would vote for her if she were running for office. Only 36% of Republicans said they would be more likely to vote for her if she were running for office.http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1478 Today, Glenn Beck had this to say . . .Beck reiterated that the pair would not join forces in 2012, leading a national ticket for president and vice president"Not a chance," Beck said in an appearance on Fox News Sunday; on the same network that broadcasts the radio and TV host's popular daily show. "I have no desire to be president of the United States. Zero desire. I don't think that I would be electable."He added: "And there are far too many people that are far smarter than me to be President." http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...094475.storyNo, I just don't take Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck that seriously. Palin is sort of like a Preston Manning, ultimately influential I suppose but mostly helpful to the Liberals/Democrats in splitting the right wing vote just as one might think the NDP are ultimately harmful to the Liberals on the opposite side.Nevertheless, Palin/Beck certainly do highlight there is a disaffected/frustrated part of the electorate which seems to have a primarily religious focus. Cowperson
You're hopefully right but I can't forget that this is a country that re-elected Bush and things have gotten more hysterical in the Excited States of America, with this economic downturn.
You're hopefully right but I can't forget that this is a country that re-elected Bush and things have gotten more hysterical in the Excited States of America, with this economic downturn.
Money is often more close to people's heart than people because it goes to security of self.As I said at the time, it would take a collossal boob to not serve a second term in the circumstances in which Barack Obama came into office . . . . an economy likely bottoming, thanks to decisions in September/October just preior to Obama stepping into office, his predecessor signing off on an Iraq withdrawal that Obama would get credit for . . . . . all should have meant a slam dunk re-election four years in the future. It's probably still going to be that way but he's gassing it a bit and now there's a serious chance he's going to be out of office, although his opposition is still weak and disorganized. In GW Bush 2's second term re-election, the economy was out of recession and pushing ahead. When GW Bush 1 was trying to get re-elected, he was 73% in the polls after the first Gulf War and out of office a year and a half later as the economy slipped into recession.There's lessons in those two circumstances.War isn't too relevant frankly, particularly Iraq and Afghanistan which have been relatively low cost in terms casualties and economics relative to other high profile wars like WWII, Korea and Vietnam. The common American really never had to sacrifice for these modern wars as they did for the others. It never hit home across a broad swath of the country, even as it tragically did for specific households.If someone loses their job, however, that's when a voter gets mad. It's always about the economy.Cowperson
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If the Tea party could separate out of all this and become just a straight up fiscally conservative, common sense party with no religious undertones.
I could really get behind that. I think that could become the third party everyone is looking for. You would pull all the moderate Dems and Repubs and force those parties to reconsider their extremism or lose power.
If the Tea party could separate out of all this and become just a straight up fiscally conservative, common sense party with no religious undertones.
I could really get behind that. I think that could become the third party everyone is looking for. You would pull all the moderate Dems and Repubs and force those parties to reconsider their extremism or lose power.
The Tea party is not overtly influenced by religious undertones. But, I seriously doubt that the type of person who is drawn to the movement would willing give up their right to publically express their religious convictions and allow them to influence their choices within politicians.
Beck from the outset said his gathering was not a tea party rally. Of course many if not most of the people who came associated themselves with the Tea party movement.
The Tea party is not overtly influenced by religious undertones. But, I seriously doubt that the type of person who is drawn to the movement would willing give up their right to publically express their religious convictions and allow them to influence their choices within politicians.
Beck from the outset said his gathering was not a tea party rally. Of course many if not most of the people who came associated themselves with the Tea party movement.
look at the speeches yesterday and say that again with true conviction.
Yesterday was a tea party rally no matter how much Beck said it wasnt.
The main theme from Beck was america needs to get back to God!!
You presented your viewpoint as if there has never been such a thing as left-wing terrorism, or a left-wing militia.
Go back and read your own post.
I just pointed out otherwise.
That was not the intent. There has always been radicals on either side of the political divide and that will never change. Extremism will continue to survive until the human race ceases to exist. The point was that in the current context right wing radicalism is not only very prevalent but embraced by those in the Republican party. The radicalism that would have been marginalized in the past has now become a core pillar of the Republican base.
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Right-wing militias have been active in the US for as long as the US has existed. The only reason they're getting more attention lately is because the media loves to vilify them, immigration, and because the US government is screwed up.
I'll disagree with your point. The militias and other extremists are getting the press because they are being embraced by the Republicans to mobilize their base. This could be the last gasp of the Republican party as they continue to embrace the more and more radical and disenfranchise their more centerist supporters. There may be short term gains, but most Americans will not continue to accept the fringe elements that are guiding the Republican party. Immigration is a wedge issue and the reason the government is screwed up is because of partisan politics. If the Republicans did anything but vote no as a block the government might actually accomplish something of note.
so you are saying the Democrats mobilized the far left in the 60s?
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I'll disagree with your point. The militias and other extremists are getting the press because they are being embraced by the Republicans to mobilize their base. This could be the last gasp of the Republican party as they continue to embrace the more and more radical and disenfranchise their more centerist supporters. There may be short term gains, but most Americans will not continue to accept the fringe elements that are guiding the Republican party. Immigration is a wedge issue and the reason the government is screwed up is because of partisan politics. If the Republicans did anything but vote no as a block the government might actually accomplish something of note.
And The Kennedys are responsible for the origins of the weathermen and SLA?
The Democrats have been in majority since 2006 in both houses. They could push through what ever agenda they wanted for over 4 years. What they lacked is the organization and backbone to get it done. With the numbers they have the Repubs couldn't even filibuster the majority was that pronounced. Saying the Republicans blocked everything is just weak.
Starting in November of this year... party is over. If the Beck rally was any indicator the Dems will get slaughtered in November and rightly so. They had the power and did nothing with it.
look at the speeches yesterday and say that again with true conviction.
Yesterday was a tea party rally no matter how much Beck said it wasnt.
The main theme from Beck was america needs to get back to God!!
That is the problem with the Tea party currently. It really has no strict definition or hierarchy. The press labels any gathering of conservative groups to be Tea Party.
They need to have some sort of convention or meeting to define the principals of the group and get better organized. Right now anyone that is against taxes is getting the label and some shouldn't. There are a whole bunch of copycats out there getting on the bandwagon and polluting the root message.
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If the Republicans did anything but vote no as a block the government might actually accomplish something of note.
Laughable.
The Democrats have not required a single Republican vote to pass any of their legislation the past 2 years.
Fact is they couldn't even get their own party members to support things like Obamacare, immigration and other things.
That you actually think the Republicans are to blame that certain issues aren't solved just shows your bias along with your lack of understanding in regards to how Capital Hill has worked the past two years.
And The Kennedys are responsible for the origins of the weathermen and SLA?
The Democrats have been in majority since 2006 in both houses. They could push through what ever agenda they wanted for over 4 years. What they lacked is the organization and backbone to get it done. With the numbers they have the Repubs couldn't even filibuster the majority was that pronounced. Saying the Republicans blocked everything is just weak.
Starting in November of this year... party is over. If the Beck rally was any indicator the Dems will get slaughtered in November and rightly so. They had the power and did nothing with it.
All it is is an attempt to vilify the Republicans even more by someone who quite obviously is a Democrat supporter. Crap like that is the reason the US is where they are.
The Republicans have had their share of screwups prior to 2 years ago, but the stupidity of the past two years in regards to ridiculous legislation lies squarely on the backs of the Democrats.
Stimpy reminds me of one of those people that hated the Patriot Act when Bush signed it into law, hated Gitmo, and the torture scandals, but now that the Democrats are in charge, suddenly the 'dissent' has quieted down.
When one party signs into law a broad and sweeping change to the liberties of law-abiding CITIZENS, not to mention giving the government over excessive power when it comes to interfering with the lives of private citizens, and the next party in charge just keeps that law exactly how it was originally written, you know you're screwed over.
And considering the US now has airport style full body x-ray scanners being deployed to their streets in an effort to 'fight terrorism/crime'....suddenly you gotta start questioning what the hell is going on.
And just in case some of you actually think I'm crazy, here is the link to prove it.
This isn't an issue of one party is better than the other. I do actually believe there are certain elements of the Democratic Party that could actually make a change for the 'good', but they've been pushed to the back by the Reid's and Pelosi's, who dictate policy with their stupidity.
If there ever was an example of 'power corrupts'...Reid and Pelosi would be the picture perfect example.
But no, those EVIL Republicans and their vote of no to stop the Democrats from passing laws.
That was not the intent. There has always been radicals on either side of the political divide and that will never change. Extremism will continue to survive until the human race ceases to exist. The point was that in the current context right wing radicalism is not only very prevalent but embraced by those in the Republican party. The radicalism that would have been marginalized in the past has now become a core pillar of the Republican base.
I'll disagree with your point. The militias and other extremists are getting the press because they are being embraced by the Republicans to mobilize their base. This could be the last gasp of the Republican party as they continue to embrace the more and more radical and disenfranchise their more centerist supporters. There may be short term gains, but most Americans will not continue to accept the fringe elements that are guiding the Republican party. Immigration is a wedge issue and the reason the government is screwed up is because of partisan politics. If the Republicans did anything but vote no as a block the government might actually accomplish something of note.
What leaders within the Republican party are embracing right wing militia groups?
I hope you aren't labeling every Republican who supports the right to bare arms and form militias as supporting the agendas of these groups. These Republicans are supporting the Constitution not any particular militia groups.
Also, I really believe the danger of these militias are overblown. Around here I still see a lot of "Remember Ruby Ridge" bumper stickers. Ruby Ridge as well as Waco Texas were examples of the Federal government over reaching and causing a deadly exchange. Militias for the most part want the government to stay out of their lives. When the Feds need to deal with these groups the worse thing they can do is bring an army. It plays into the group's fears. Democrats as well seem to fear anything out of their control.
Every time I watch Jon Stewart I am amazed how much of a moron he is and how much of a success he's having with his shtick. Couple of weeks ago when he went to great lengths to defend Obama's appearance on the View, that was quite hilarious. I don't think even Obama's PR brigade defended him so ferociously. Oh wait a sec....
The Democrats have not required a single Republican vote to pass any of their legislation the past 2 years.
Fact is they couldn't even get their own party members to support things like Obamacare, immigration and other things.
That you actually think the Republicans are to blame that certain issues aren't solved just shows your bias along with your lack of understanding in regards to how Capital Hill has worked the past two years.
Nice try though.
Save your juvenile comments as it seems you don't really have as good a grip on the subject of American government as you think you do. The filibuster, and threat of filibuster, has ground government to a halt and made it impossible for compromise. For some reason the Obama administration has wanted to find a bi-partisan solution to issues rather than ramming their agenda through the mechanisms of government, like the previous administration did, allowing the filibuster to be a viable strategy in preventing passage of legislation. The Democrats are weak kneed wimps for not exploiting their number advantage, but the Republicans have done little to aid a nation hurting in so many ways. A perfect example is the extension of unemployment benefits which the Republicans have blocked over and over again. No bias, just fact. Both sides are guilty and deserve to be tossed out of office because they are not doing what they have been charged to do; govern.
