2010 NFL Fantasy Football discussion thread

[Sylvanfan]

Well I would guess most leagues will be having their drafts in the next couple of weeks here as the real season is 3 weeks away tommorrow. There are a couple of threads going but they're more about specific leagues, so lets get a general Fantasy Football discussion thread started for this year.

I'm joining a league for the first time this year, and ended up with the first pick. It's a 10 team league, and the scoring is 6 points per TD, 1 point for every 10 yards rushing, or receiving. For QB's it's 6 points a TD pass, and 1 point for every 25 yards passing.

Once I get over my urge to draft Jamarcus Russel, I think I'll join the bandwagon and select Chris Johnson with my top pick. When it's time for my second pick though, I'd be hard pressed to pass up any of the big star QB's if they're still around. Even though the big three in the fantasy world of Brees, Manning, and Rogers will likely be gone, I'd be hard pressed to pass on a guy like Brady with that pick. I just don't think the league depth at QB is as good as it is at Receiver and running back. Seems like a lot of teams are moving towards a split backfield these days and you have specialty guys who come in to bang in goal line TD's. Even with receivers, there are many teams using 3 and 4 receiver packages quite regularly.

Anyways who are you looking at for sleepers, or the like?

[Displaced Flames fan]

I really think that you can get great value at QB deep in the draft this season. Like you said, there are only 3 or 4 really sexy QB's that warrant a pick in the top two rounds. I've been inclined to grab a QB early in past drafts and it's paid off, but I think this season I will look for value at that position and try to get some elite players at the other skill positions.

Our CP draft is Sunday. The other league I joined,which was advertised in the off topic forum, seems to have fallen by the wayside. I'll be looking for another league to get into.

[Radio]

In our draft it went Rodgers, Brees, C. Johnson., Vernon Davis (scratches head), Frank Gore (49ers fan)..as the top five. The first 3 are solid picks...the other 2 not so much..not first round anyways.

I would agree there's only 3 or 4 first/second round QBs. But having one of those 4 is becoming more and more important. The rules are moving..or have moved to protecting the QB. So there's more passing and subsequently more passing TDs.

More and more teams are going to the Running Back by Committee model. It's harder to get that running back that carries the team..gets the lions share of the work. Peterson, MJD, Ray Rice, and Chris Johnson are sure bets but after that it can be hit or miss.

Because of some "off the board picks" earlier in the first round I was able to pick up Ray Rice with the 8th overall pick. I then selected Peyton Manning with my next pick (13th overall). Had our draft gone the way I thought it would I would've got maybe 1 of those 2 but not both!

I am no expert by any means but I tried to get a stud at the top 3 positions QB, RB, & WR. P. Manning, R. Rice, & R. White.

Our league is looking for a GM DFF if you're interested..I started a thread earlier today about a few down from this one.

[the_professsor]

I need some advice, I'm in a keeper league so I can keep up to 3 players, but if I keep them I lose their draft position. I have CJ (1st round), obvious keeper, Schaub (6th round), obvious keeper, but I need to decide between keeping Desean Jackson for a 3rd round pick, or Brett Favre for an 11th round pick.......D-Jax killed it last year, but I'm not so confident this year with Kolb at the helm, any thoughts?

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by the_professsor

I need some advice, I'm in a keeper league so I can keep up to 3 players, but if I keep them I lose their draft position. I have CJ (1st round), obvious keeper, Schaub (6th round), obvious keeper, but I need to decide between keeping Desean Jackson for a 3rd round pick, or Brett Favre for an 11th round pick.......D-Jax killed it last year, but I'm not so confident this year with Kolb at the helm, any thoughts?

I'd definitely keep Desean. This is Favre's last year...and Desean is 23.

Andy Reid's offense is 60/40 pass and Kolb is very accurate and has developed good chemistry with both Jackson and Celek.

He should have a huge year.

[Jiggy_12]

I'd personally keep Favre, johnson, and jackson and pass on Schaub. Only because Favre at 11th round value is fantastic, and you can use that 6th round pick for a valuable 3rd wide reciever or still get a good backup QB. A top tier tight end should still be around as well. Just gives you more options.

[the_professsor]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

I'd personally keep Favre, johnson, and jackson and pass on Schaub. Only because Favre at 11th round value is fantastic, and you can use that 6th round pick for a valuable 3rd wide reciever or still get a good backup QB. A top tier tight end should still be around as well. Just gives you more options.

Good point, Schaub is always such a risk/reward cause the guy is always one play away from a serious injury, but he has the potential to be top 3 in the league playing with A-Johnson. I've been doing some mock drafts though and the quality of players going in the 6th round may not be worth it to give up that top notch QB.

Thanks for the advice, regardless of my decision, CJ should be able to carry me to victory again single handedly. Luckiest draft pick of my career last year

[howard_the_duck]

Any PPR specialists around?

I've got a draft coming up and this will be the 2nd year we are doing PPR. Last year I got the 2nd pick and chose MJD because of his pass-catching abilities and he had a great year.

This year, however, beyond the first 4 RB's, I'm more inclined to take a WR early and often in this format. I've been doing some reading and traditionally over 10 of the top 20 fantasy players in PPR leagues are WRs. Is this a good strategy?

Cheers

[Sylvanfan]

So after the draft on the weekend this is what I ended up with for players.

1 (1 ) Chris Johnson RB
2 (20) Rashard Mendenhall RB
3 (21) Calvin Johnson WR
4 (40) Antonio Gates TE
5 (41) Steve Smith WR
6 (60) Pierre Garcon WR
7 (61) Michael Crabtree WR
8 (80) Malcolm Floyd WR
9 (81) Jay Cutler QB
10 (100) Jerome Harrison RB
11 (101) Owen Daniels TE
12 (120) Kenny Britt WR
13 (121) Carnell Williams RB
14 (140) New York Giants D
15 (151) Jon Kasey K

I wasn't able to make my draft so I had to submit a list and this is what I ended up with.

I like the first 3 picks as I get two stud running backs who should get plenty of touches, and big play WR in Johnson in what I hope will be an improved Lions offence. Taking Gates at the end of round 4, may be a touch high, but with Vincent Jackson on the outs with the Chargers, it likely means more looks for him although teams will game plan more against him. Although by picking up Malcolm Floyd, and Owen Daniels as my backup TE I'm somewhat protected there as I can put Daniels in than start Floyd if he puts up big numbers.

I took Pierre Garcon way too early, thats a terrible pick by me. But getting Crabtree later on to go with Steve Smith should allow me to bench him anyways. Jay Cutler will likely make or break my team. If he plays to his potential in a pass happy Mike Martz offence and doesn't toss too many picks that could be a good sleeper. But it's risky, and I need to start targeting another QB just in case. Kenny Britt I think is a good late round pick as he has potential, and may come on if him and Vince Young develop some chemistry. Harrison and Williams give me a bit of depth at RB, although I may just drop Williams now and maybe try to get Hardesty so that either way I'll have one of the Browns Running backs as a backup.

Defence and Kicker...who cares too much about that, if the Giants underperform too much you can always pick up who ever is playing the Chiefs on the waiver wire.

[Pagal4321]

^^

I pretty much feel the same way about your team as you do.

The first three picks are stellar. If the Steve Smith you got is the Panthers version, than your WRs are going to carry your team.

Not a fan of Jay Cutler AT all, but you might be able to trade some WR talent for a QB, depending on how they play the first few weeks.

[Montana Moe]

Cutler is in a Mike Martz offense now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see his numbers improve. With that said, his receivers aren't exactly world beaters.

[Knut]

This was my first football draft in 4 years... what are your thoughts on my team?

QB: Matt Schaub, Matt Ryan
WR: Calvin Johnson, Hakeem Nicks, Derrick Mason, Bernard Berrian, Arrelious Benn
RB: Frank Gore, Felix Jones, Laurence Maroney, Tim Hightower
TE: Dallas Clark, Heath Miller
K: Matt Pratter
Def: Dallas

I feel like i have a good 1-2 at QB and that i can use Ryan trade bait later on in the year. I feel i am little week at receiver and Kicker.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

^^

I pretty much feel the same way about your team as you do.

The first three picks are stellar. If the Steve Smith you got is the Panthers version, than your WRs are going to carry your team.

Not a fan of Jay Cutler AT all, but you might be able to trade some WR talent for a QB, depending on how they play the first few weeks.

It's the Giants Steve Smith. But at this point in time he see's more balls than the Panthers Steve Smith because the Giants do throw the ball a fair bit, and with Hakeem Nicks opposite of him, teams can't double cover him like the Panthers Smith. Not to mention John Fox will be the anti-Andy Reid this year, he'll probably run the ball 75% of the time. Not that I blame him because with an inexperienced defence, those running backs and that offensive line...I'd do the same damn thing.

I dropped Williams from my team in favor of picking up a better backup QB in case Cutler forgets what color jersey he's wearing. I think my two best FA options are Chad Henne and Alex Smith. Although Matt Hasselback is still around too. Either one of those guys worth grabbing yet?

[Displaced Flames fan]

Floyd in the 8th round was larceny. He will lead the Chargers in receptions except for that one other guy that's on your team too.

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

It's the Giants Steve Smith. But at this point in time he see's more balls than the Panthers Steve Smith because the Giants do throw the ball a fair bit, and with Hakeem Nicks opposite of him, teams can't double cover him like the Panthers Smith. Not to mention John Fox will be the anti-Andy Reid this year, he'll probably run the ball 75% of the time. Not that I blame him because with an inexperienced defence, those running backs and that offensive line...I'd do the same damn thing.

I dropped Williams from my team in favor of picking up a better backup QB in case Cutler forgets what color jersey he's wearing. I think my two best FA options are Chad Henne and Alex Smith. Although Matt Hasselback is still around too. Either one of those guys worth grabbing yet?

Henne for sure. He had over 2,500 yards passing last year WITHOUT Brandon Marshall.

And agreed with Dis, Floyd was an absolute steal for you.

[burn_baby_burn]

This is the 9th season for the league that I host. 12 teams (same 12 for last four years), $60 entry fee. We are a head to head league with 4 keepers per team.

Each team starts 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB.

Scoring is as follows (doesn't matter what position you play).

TD (throwing, receiving, rushing, KO return, Punt return, INT return, fumble return): 6 points
Reception: 1 Point
Rush: 0.25 point
Completion: 0.25 point
50 yard passing: 1 point
20 yards receiving: 1 point
20 yards rushing: 1 point
20 return yards: 1 point
2 point conversion (throwing, receiving, rushing): 2 points
Lost fumble: -2 points
Interception: -2 points
Tackle: 1 point
Assisted tackle: 0.5 points
INT: 3 points
Forced Fumble: 3 points
Fumble Recovery (offensive or defensive): 3 points
20 INT & Fumble recovery return yards: 1 Point
Pass Defensed: 1 point
Safety: 6 points
Blocked kick: 6 points
0-39 yard FG: 3 Points
40-49 yard FG: 4 Points
50+ FG: 5 Points
Extra Point: 1 Point
Missed FG 0-39 yards: -1
Missed extra point: -1

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

This is the 9th season for the league that I host. 12 teams (same 12 for last four years), $60 entry fee. We are a head to head league with 4 keepers per team.

Each team starts 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB.

Scoring is as follows (doesn't matter what position you play).

TD (throwing, receiving, rushing, KO return, Punt return, INT return, fumble return): 6 points
Reception: 1 Point
Rush: 0.25 point
Completion: 0.25 point
50 yard passing: 1 point
20 yards receiving: 1 point
20 yards rushing: 1 point
20 return yards: 1 point
2 point conversion (throwing, receiving, rushing): 2 points
Lost fumble: -2 points
Interception: -2 points
Tackle: 1 point
Assisted tackle: 0.5 points
INT: 3 points
Forced Fumble: 3 points
Fumble Recovery (offensive or defensive): 3 points
20 INT & Fumble recovery return yards: 1 Point
Pass Defensed: 1 point
Safety: 6 points
Blocked kick: 6 points
0-39 yard FG: 3 Points
40-49 yard FG: 4 Points
50+ FG: 5 Points
Extra Point: 1 Point
Missed FG 0-39 yards: -1
Missed extra point: -1

*sigh*

I'm jealous of that league you have there. I recently tried to start a keeper league, and half the people who joined didn't want defensive players so it was changed.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Henne for sure. He had over 2,500 yards passing last year WITHOUT Brandon Marshall.

And agreed with Dis, Floyd was an absolute steal for you.

I dropped Caddilac Williams and added Chad Henne to give me some backup QB depth.

As I read, the guys who dominated the last 3 weeks of the fantasy season last year were Jarome Harrison, and Jamaal Charles. Nobody drafted either of those guys, so as the season wears on, there should be backs to grab off the scrap heap if I pay attention and need to replace the two guys I have, not to mention I do have Harrison as a backup.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I dropped Caddilac Williams and added Chad Henne to give me some backup QB depth.

As I read, the guys who dominated the last 3 weeks of the fantasy season last year were Jarome Harrison, and Jamaal Charles. Nobody drafted either of those guys, so as the season wears on, there should be backs to grab off the scrap heap if I pay attention and need to replace the two guys I have, not to mention I do have Harrison as a backup.

There is always the combination of injuries to starters giving a backup a chance, young guys who start slow but once they get up to speed are great, OCs who figure out better ways to utilize players, and finally the final few weeks of the schedule match ups.

I've had a bad habit of picking a young guy, carrying him for a while, running into injury troubles and dropping him, only to see him flourish a few weeks later for someone else.

[the_professsor]

Originally Posted by Hesla

This was my first football draft in 4 years... what are your thoughts on my team?

QB: Matt Schaub, Matt Ryan
WR: Calvin Johnson, Hakeem Nicks, Derrick Mason, Bernard Berrian, Arrelious Benn
RB: Frank Gore, Felix Jones, Laurence Maroney, Tim Hightower
TE: Dallas Clark, Heath Miller
K: Matt Pratter
Def: Dallas

I feel like i have a good 1-2 at QB and that i can use Ryan trade bait later on in the year. I feel i am little week at receiver and Kicker.

QB: very good as you said
WR: pretty good, Johnson is a great WR1 and i think he'll have a big year, nicks should break out and berrian has a chance to be huge
RB: a bit weak imo, Gore is obviously a beast, but I don't think Jones/Maroney will be very productive in their 3-back committees
TE: excellent, Clark is the best
K: whatever
Def: average

Overall it's pretty good, I'd look at adding another RB, not sure who's available in your free agency but guys like Hardesty/Huggins/Washington could end up stealing starting jobs