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Old 08-19-2010, 02:44 PM   #1
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Or, another blow to the "government is not responsible to protect you from being unreasonably offended" argument.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/18/uta....html?hpt=Sbin
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:49 PM   #2
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A Texas-based group, American Atheists, successfully sued five years ago to have the nonprofit memorial project scrapped, and the crosses removed from public property.
Pretty pathetic.

Half the crosses I know of were put there by people who aren't even religious.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:52 PM   #3
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Yeah, this is pretty pathetic. Most atheists that I know buy their atheism on the cheap. It's just petulant adolescence, as one can see through the example of this Texas group.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:52 PM   #4
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Don't think there's anything "sucky" about not wanting to live in a theocracy. Roads are public property, which means I have the right not to be subjected to symbols of religion.

If you want religion to pervade your government, move to the middle east.

Great decision.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:52 PM   #5
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I guess if we were keeping score it would be

Christian fundementalists 100-Atheists 3
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:52 PM   #6
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extremist groups, regardless of "denomination", suck.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:53 PM   #7
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I hate god but that is just crazy.

Even if it was tax dollars they are memorials to dead troopers. Unless one of the dead troopers they are memorializing wasn't christian and his family is mad I don't see why anyone cares.
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Its wierd this group hasn't targeted the "In God we Trust" on american currency yet.....
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Don't think there's anything "sucky" about not wanting to live in a theocracy. Roads are public property, which means I have the right not to be subjected to symbols of religion.

If you want religion to pervade your government, move to the middle east.

Great decision.
Hahahahah. What exactly is theocratic about putting up crosses in memorial of fallen highway troopers. Hilarious and ludicrous.
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I hate god but that is just crazy.

Even if it was tax dollars they are memorials to dead troopers. Unless one of the dead troopers they are memorializing wasn't christian and his family is mad I don't see why anyone cares.
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most of the deceased troopers were Mormon, where the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints does not uses the cross as a religious symbol
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Why did it have to be a cross? Why not a plaque in the shape of the badge the toopers wear with law enforcment symbols, a picture, etc etc etc?

God didn't pay for those roads.
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I think a donut shaped memorial would be more fitting.
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What exactly is theocratic about putting up crosses in memorial of fallen highway troopers.
The public is forced to see them. They were huge, and unavoidable. I don't want my government supporting that (or any religion).

If you want to memorialize dead troopers on public land, put up a plaque, billboard, or plant a tree. Don't force religion on people.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:58 PM   #14
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I would distinguish the "freedom from religion" people from your garden variety atheists. The former are myopic, and the latter are very laissez faire.

When I listen to a Freedom From Religion type podcast, it does not sound very different from a fundamentalist religious show. In fact, many of the FFR types were formerly religious fundamentalists. These are narrow-minded people who only see the world in black and white terms.

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Reading through the comments field is actually pretty sad, including the obligatory cop hater that we see on every internet medium.

These were privately funded memorials and yes they were on public land, but they were memorial symbols not prayer symbols in this case.

The atheists that sued should focus on their issues with actual religion in public schools and government instead of coming across as petty disrespectful douchbags.
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The public is forced to see them. They were huge, and unavoidable. I don't want my government supporting that (or any religion).

If you want to memorialize dead troopers on public land, put up a plaque, billboard, or plant a tree. Don't force religion on people.
I'll say it again, your position is ludicrous and adolescent.

This sort of atheism is just petulant and obscene.
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Its wierd this group hasn't targeted the "In God we Trust" on american currency yet.....
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Why did it have to be a cross? Why not a plaque in the shape of the badge the toopers wear with law enforcment symbols, a picture, etc etc etc?

God didn't pay for those roads.
I think that in the western world, the international symbol for a grave is a cross. Maybe people that aren't christian need to stop being so anal about the symbol. It's no stupider than the religious dumasses that argue that marriage is a man and a woman and "why cant they just call it a civil union".
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I'll say it again, your position is ludicrous and adolescent.
Feel free to address the points when you grow up. I'll ignore your attacks till then.
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^^^ many atheists do

If I was a Yank I would support the movement.

It was only added in the late 50's it is not some "founding father" tradition.

Goverment and church are supposed to be sepaerate ,of course we all know this, but for some reason it gets a pass
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