Alberta donates $500,000 to Pakistan flood relief

[MJM]

Originally Posted by Azure

The question is are we really going to suffer as Albertan because of this.

We're each giving exactly $.17.

They were going to cut our police force for that $.17 cents/Albertan.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

Its amazing how people perceive Pakistan and Afghanistan as just swarming with Talliban. They are a minority. Innocent people are suffering constantly in that region and even worse now.

You want to make sure kids in extreme poverty don't join the Talliban out of desperation? Help them when they need it instead of bombing their villages to get at the Talliban holing up among innocents.

True, but didn't some of those recent "leaked" documents show that the Pakistan government has been making secret deals with the Taliban, and the Taliban are killing Canadians regularly.

I don't want innocent people in Pakistan to suffer, but I don't trust their government either. Some military generals are likely to see it as money to them and take it as a bonus.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Azure

The question is are we really going to suffer as Albertan because of this.

We're each giving exactly $.17.

Don't forget the Federal government gave them $1 from each Canadian

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

Its amazing how people perceive Pakistan and Afghanistan as just swarming with Talliban. They are a minority. Innocent people are suffering constantly in that region and even worse now.

You want to make sure kids in extreme poverty don't join the Talliban out of desperation? Help them when they need it instead of bombing their villages to get at the Talliban holing up among innocents.

Perception is everything. Charity from private citizens is 100% voluntary. That is not going to change.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Don't forget the Federal government gave them $1 from each Canadian

$1.17 to try and help people in a region dominated by terrorism.

If only the US had done the same in Afghanistan circa 1989.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Red Ice Player

Perception is everything. Charity from private citizens is 100% voluntary. That is not going to change.

We're talking government provided aid. Which has been a complete joke since the disaster.

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

We're talking government provided aid. Which has been a complete joke since the disaster.

I would say that in this case, the amount of government aid seems to reflect the public attitude. I'm not saying its right, but we do elect these folks.

[Byrns]

It's all lip service anyway.

How much of the pledge money did Haitians actually get? I've heard very little of what was promised actually materialized so far.

How much have Pakistani Canadians donated? There's apparently 300,000 living here... Apparently not much, I wonder why?

Naseer Warraich, of the Association of Pakistani Canadians, said his organization has so far been able to raise only $30,000 toward it’s $1-million fundraising goal, and that he is still trying to figure out why.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1675172/

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Byrns

It's all lip service anyway.

How much of the pledge money did Haitians actually get? I've heard very little of what was promised actually materialized so far.

How much have Pakistani Canadians donated? There's apparently 300,000 living here... Apparently not much, I wonder why?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1675172/

One media observor said blamed Pakistan's "Image Deficit" for the lack of foreign help.

Cowperson

[HPLovecraft]

Separate Pakistani government from the poor random men, women, and children actually suffering from these floods. They deserve help, and $500,000, while a nice gesture, in the end, likely won't be able to do much, anyway.

My girlfriend's Pakistani, but thankfully most of her family is further south, with the majority in and around Karachi.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Just like the fake tapes after 911 showing people dancing in the streets in Palestine. Which were completely fabricated by the western news agencies.

Why do you perpetuate lies when you know the truth? Can you back up your claims?

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Why do you perpetuate lies when you know the truth? Can you back up your claims?

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cnn.asp

Guess I got snopesed. They came out with that in 2008, I had heard about the fabrication long before that. Doesn't change the fact if there was a flood in Canada no one would be dancing in the streets.

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Doesn't change the fact if there was a flood in Canada no one would be dancing in the streets.

Correct. Now what the hell are you talking about?

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by MJM

Call me the next time a country in the Middle East comes knocking on our door with a basket full of money when there is a disaster anywhere in the West (Including South America), than you can say how disgusted you are with how little the West has given. If a flood like that happened here or in the US, a lot of countries over there be dancing in the streets.

This?

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

This?

Fair enough. I'll agree with you that nobody dances in the streets to celebrate natural disasters. They did however dance in the streets in the Palestinian territory to celebrate a mass murder perpetrated against innocent people in the United States. Actually I never knew that until it was brought up tonight. Thanks.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by MJM

Call me the next time a country in the Middle East comes knocking on our door with a basket full of money when there is a disaster anywhere in the West (Including South America), than you can say how disgusted you are with how little the West has given. If a flood like that happened here or in the US, a lot of countries over there be dancing in the streets.

Call me the next time you find a map that has Pakistan in the Middle East.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Call me the next time you find a map that has Pakistan in the Middle East.

Um, it's still related to the middle east region.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Um, it's still related to the middle east region.

So? Still not in the Middle East and Pakistani's dont consider themselves Middle Eastern.

[Ducay]

Most 'ignerent' people in North American lump Pakistanis and Indians as Middle Eastern. They'd likely sheet a brick if you told them they were asian.

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by puckluck

So? Still not in the Middle East and Pakistani's dont consider themselves Middle Eastern.

Yeah...but close enough.

From Wikipedia:

The Middle East (or, formerly more common, the Near East)[1] is a region that encompasses southwestern Asia and Egypt. In some contexts, the term has recently been expanded in usage to sometimes include Afghanistan and Pakistan, the Caucasus and Central Asia, and North Africa. It's often used as a synonym for Near East, in opposition to Far East. The corresponding adjective is Middle-Eastern and the derived noun is Middle-Easterner.