Shoe Rant

[peter12]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

peter...you're being douchy again. That's total BS and you know it.

Jeez, let me clarify... it's different than just being too lazy to shave for a few days. Heck, I go through that phase every two weeks or so, but it's the guys who revel in looking like slobs. You know what I mean.

At the end of the day, it's just preference, I guess. I do tend to judge perpetually slobby people. Not that I'm perfect, by any means, but I'm sort of with narbez in the end. You've got to put some effort into your appearance. It doesn't mean you need a $20,000 wardrobe or use all the fanciest baby seal fat products on your face, but, in my world and the way I was raised, it's important to put your best face forward everyday.

Is that fair?

[Ford Prefect]

There's a lot of sperm-blockage in this thread.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

There's a lot of sperm-blockage in this thread.

As long as it doesn't end up on my shoes, clothes, beard, hair, or watch then its fine.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by valo403

Ah yes, because previous generations were always oh so clean shaven. Take this guy here as an example of what successful people didn't look like:

Let's be fair, sir. There is nothing better than a well-maintained beard or even mustachio.

[Traditional_Ale]

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

But the Romans all shaved.

[pepper24]

For dress shoes, I own shoes ranging from $25 to $500 but the best ones for me have been Rockport. They are the most comfortable by far which helps since I walk to work everyday (snow, rain or sun) and also handle the elements the best. My last pair I bought in Houston while on business a few years back for $25 USD at Macy's. I wish I bought a few more pairs! Here in Calgary they range from $75 to $150 depending on if they are on sale or not. I still wear them most of the time and only wear my more expensive but less comfortable dress shoes the odd time to switch things up. If I had to strart from scratch I'd buy a few pairs of Rockport and stick with those.

For the whole work etiquette debate here's my take:

I work for a Wall Street bank that has an energy trading desk in the Calgary. When I first started out I worked in New York City. When they opened up our Calgary back in 2004 I moved back.

New York Head office: suit and tie every day - no exceptions. You basically were told that you should have $1000+ suits. Cheaping out didn't help your career as shallow and lame as it seems. That's the Wall Street etiquette and I was fine with that.

Calgary: at first we followed the New York dress code but a few years back changed it. The Calgary take was that it didn't fit in with the oil and gas crowd so now we wear dress pants and dress shirt (no tie) and jeans/dress shirt on Fridays. I personally like it. For business travel to big financial centers like New York or London where that's the code or personal for weddings I dig them of my closet.

Calgary is not a suit and tie city and I like that.

[Traditional_Ale]

Unless you got a significant raise or something, why would you leave NYC if you had a good paying job? NYC is freaking awesome!

[Skate around the circle]

Sorry to get back on track here but what about us guys with big flippers,I wear a`13 and it P's me off to no end how these "specialty shoes" stores only stock up to a size 12.

[Shazam]

I have a pair of Born brand for my dress shoes. They're very comfortable. I usually buy Rockport but I though I'd go for a change.

I agree about Macy's, they have the most insane and best shoe sales.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by peter12

Jeez, let me clarify... it's different than just being too lazy to shave for a few days. Heck, I go through that phase every two weeks or so, but it's the guys who revel in looking like slobs. You know what I mean.

At the end of the day, it's just preference, I guess. I do tend to judge perpetually slobby people. Not that I'm perfect, by any means, but I'm sort of with narbez in the end. You've got to put some effort into your appearance. It doesn't mean you need a $20,000 wardrobe or use all the fanciest baby seal fat products on your face, but, in my world and the way I was raised, it's important to put your best face forward everyday.

Is that fair?

Hmmm, you say that you're a grad student but that you also care about personal appearance. Something does not compute Peter. Explain yourself!

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Hmmm, you say that you're a grad student but that you also care about personal appearance. Something does not compute Peter. Explain yourself!

I am working a bit before moving onto a PhD program. I also never liked wearing sweatpants to school.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Unless you got a significant raise or something, why would you leave NYC if you had a good paying job? NYC is freaking awesome!

I can see it. Remember, living in NYC is not constantly visiting fancy museums, going to Broadway shows, and eating fancy pizzas like most people tend to do when they visit. At the end of the day, you have to work, pay the bills, and hustle just like anyone else. It's a pretty tough place to hack it (especially once you get in to family-rasing years), no matter the money. It's a great place, but not always a long-term solution.

[Mad Mel]

Originally Posted by narbeZ

I bet these stubble people don't wash their car ever either.

You are entirely correct, my metrosexual friend. Men don't wash their vehicles, we have harems to hand wash them for us... it's kind of a spectator sport.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by peter12

Jeez, let me clarify... it's different than just being too lazy to shave for a few days. Heck, I go through that phase every two weeks or so, but it's the guys who revel in looking like slobs. You know what I mean.

At the end of the day, it's just preference, I guess. I do tend to judge perpetually slobby people. Not that I'm perfect, by any means, but I'm sort of with narbez in the end. You've got to put some effort into your appearance. It doesn't mean you need a $20,000 wardrobe or use all the fanciest baby seal fat products on your face, but, in my world and the way I was raised, it's important to put your best face forward everyday.

Is that fair?

My advice: work on that.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

My advice: work on that.

That's a pretty bizarre sentiment insofar as it assumes that in the real world, there are no common prejudices on appearance whether it's in the business world or elsewhere.

[Mad Mel]

One must be careful about expressing that judgement. A very probable example: "Boss, I really think you dress like %$@# and I think it's going to hold you back in your career. If you were more like me, you'd have my success too".

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Mad Mel

One must be careful about expressing that judgement. A very probable example: "Boss, I really think you dress like %$@# and I think it's going to hold you back in your career. If you were more like me, you'd have my success too".

I think there are three ways of expressing it, two of which are appropriate. One, anonymously on an online message board, two in my head, and three to everybody's perpetually slobby face.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by peter12

That's a pretty bizarre sentiment insofar as it assumes that in the real world, there are no common prejudices on appearance whether it's in the business world or elsewhere.

It's not bizarre. Work on not judging people. That applies to you, not to the business world.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

It's not bizarre. Work on not judging people. That applies to you, not to the business world.

Get a haircut, hippy.