Shoe Rant

[Komskies]

Looking at people's disgusting toes makes me want to vomit. Flip flops should be illegal.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I've got you beat, Yen Man. Half the time I don't even wear ANY pants/shorts to the office.

Then again, unless I'm meeting a client, my office is about 2 feet from the couch. Sure makes commuting easy.

Well thats not impressive. Now if you didn't wear pants and you were in a real office, then I'd be impressed.

Punjabi sounds a lot like Sundeep Malhi

[algernon]

In honour of the now departed Top_Prospect:

[valo403]

[QUOTE=Sliver;2628666]Don't sweat it man. At the end of the day it's a giant waste of money. Typical millionaires/wealthy people don't spend like that. Usually the people that spend so frivilously can't afford to.
[QUOTE]

Really? Because I work with a few dozen millionaires (makes elevator rides rather intimidating) and around dozens more and I have yet to see any of them in a cheap suit. If you're a wealthy professional odds are you're spending at least 4 figures on a suit and $300+ on shoes.

I bought a pair of $350 Boss shoes at an outlet for something like $75 2 years ago, best deal I've ever found. I wear them pretty much every day and they just keep getting more an more comfortable. If I'd have gone with Aldo shoes I'd likely be on pair 4 by now, and I'd have felt like an absolute tool every time I set foot in a conference room with anyone important.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by valo403

Really? Because I work with a few dozen millionaires (makes elevator rides rather intimidating) and around dozens more and I have yet to see any of them in a cheap suit. If you're a wealthy professional odds are you're spending at least 4 figures on a suit and $300+ on shoes.

I bought a pair of $350 Boss shoes at an outlet for something like $75 2 years ago, best deal I've ever found. I wear them pretty much every day and they just keep getting more an more comfortable. If I'd have gone with Aldo shoes I'd likely be on pair 4 by now, and I'd have felt like an absolute tool every time I set foot in a conference room with anyone important.

Usually they have one nice suite, but otherwise don't splurge.

There is a saying that goes, how do you know who is the most valuable guy in the company? Easy, find the guy thats dressed the worst. Its cause they can't fire him, he's too valuable.

Suites seem to be for guys who have to sales and marketing and have to make a presentations.

[corporatejay]

[QUOTE=valo403;2628940][QUOTE=Sliver;2628666]Don't sweat it man. At the end of the day it's a giant waste of money. Typical millionaires/wealthy people don't spend like that. Usually the people that spend so frivilously can't afford to.

Really? Because I work with a few dozen millionaires (makes elevator rides rather intimidating) and around dozens more and I have yet to see any of them in a cheap suit. If you're a wealthy professional odds are you're spending at least 4 figures on a suit and $300+ on shoes.

I bought a pair of $350 Boss shoes at an outlet for something like $75 2 years ago, best deal I've ever found. I wear them pretty much every day and they just keep getting more an more comfortable. If I'd have gone with Aldo shoes I'd likely be on pair 4 by now, and I'd have felt like an absolute tool every time I set foot in a conference room with anyone important.

I think it all depends on what city you work in. A lot of the junior oil and gas company executives wear jeans and/or khakis and a golf shirt here in Calgary. It 's the executives at the larger corporations that dress up.

What city do you work in?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Don't sweat it man. At the end of the day it's a giant waste of money. Typical millionaires/wealthy people don't spend like that. Usually the people that spend so frivilously can't afford to.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you a student? There has to be more to your story than "saving up" - my guess is either really high debt or familial wealth.

No debt, no inherited family wealth. I just have developed a few skills and work all throughout school. I'm also a very disciplined saver.

Also, there's a huge difference, as some have said here, between having a modestly sized, good-quality wardrobe and dropping bling on Ed Hardy etc...

[peter12]

Holy moses, where did Top_Prospect go all of a sudden?

[worth]

I could wear jeans and a t-shirt every day to work if I wanted. There are people who do wear that here. So why don't I?

Well, for one, i'm in a business environment, and just because it is somehow now acceptable to wear those types of clothes, doesn't mean you should.

People judge you based on how you dress. Everyone does it. If you meet someone nicely dressed, your opinion of them is most likely higher because they took the time to look that way. Any slob can throw on a pair of jeans.

Style is dressing nice when you don't have to. Wearing a tie when you don't have to.

I will progress in my career. But I don't expect to wearing jeans and a T-shirt. Not saying that you can't, but professional people need to look professional.

Lastly, I want to wear these clothes. Most people I talk to say they hate dressing up. I love it. It makes me feel good. You exude confidence when you know you look good. People compliment you. It's not an ego thing, but it's something you can take pride in.

I made a choice in dressing this way. I actually dressed in jeans and a tshirt for 3 years at this job before I switched my style a bit. At first a lot of people said WTF? But they are used to it and when a client comes in, I can meet them with confidence because I am dressed for the occasion instead of a raggy old shirt.

Every good wardrobe starts at the shoes. You need a good foundation. A $1,000 suit with $80 Aldo shoes look like crap. Maybe most people can't tell. I can, and I guarantee anyone who has spent money on quality clothes, such as your boss or the guy who is interviewing you can tell as well.

I take pride in my dress, and I feel as though more men should as well.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Komskies

Looking at people's disgusting toes makes me want to vomit. Flip flops should be illegal.

Nothing turns me off more than women who wear flip-flops in a professional setting.

[worth]

Offices have become too casual. You are in a professional setting, wear professional clothing. Even if you "don't have to". People notice.

[Table 5]

It really does depend on the business. In my line, wearing a suit would actually be a negative trait (and I still count corporate companies like IBM or Nike among my clients), as you'd be pegged as the corporate stiff with no imagination. What you wear is all relative to expectations of colleagues and clients.

Every man should have a great suit and all that goes with it. But that doesn't mean you have to dress like that every day of the week or you're a nobody who doesn't care about his career.

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Are you a lifeguard or something? What kind of business allows flip flops and shorts?

I'm a computer programmer.

There's no dress code in the office and it's a very comfortable way to work...

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Table 5

It really does depend on the business. In my line, wearing a suit would actually be a negative trait (and I still count corporate companies like IBM or Nike among my clients), as you'd be pegged as the corporate stooge with no imagination. What you wear is all relative to expectations of colleagues and clients.

Every man should have a great suit and all that goes with it. But that doesn't mean you have to dress like that every day of the week or you're a nobody who doesn't care about his career.

You don't have to wear a suit and look like a suit, if ya know what I mean.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by valo403

Really? Because I work with a few dozen millionaires (makes elevator rides rather intimidating) and around dozens more and I have yet to see any of them in a cheap suit. If you're a wealthy professional odds are you're spending at least 4 figures on a suit and $300+ on shoes.

I believe it to be true as it jibes with my experience. Also read it in The Millionaire Next Door:

Most of the millionaire households that they profiled did not have the extravagant lifestyles that most people would assume. This finding is backed up by surveys indicating how little these millionaire households have spent on such things as cars, watches, suits, and other luxury products/services. Most importantly, the book gives a list of reasons for why these people managed to accumulate so much wealth (the top one being that "They live below their means"). The authors make a distinction between the 'Balance Sheet Affluent' (those with actual wealth, or high net-worth) and the 'Income Affluent' (those with a high income, but little actual wealth, or low net-worth).

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Table 5

It really does depend on the business. In my line, wearing a suit would actually be a negative trait (and I still count corporate companies like IBM or Nike among my clients), as you'd be pegged as the corporate stiff with no imagination. What you wear is all relative to expectations of colleagues and clients.

Every man should have a great suit and all that goes with it. But that doesn't mean you have to dress like that every day of the week or you're a nobody who doesn't care about his career.

Yup that is the "new" environment. Suites and nice shoes are sort of seen as... old and arcane.

[worth]

Originally Posted by Table 5

It really does depend on the business. In my line, wearing a suit would actually be a negative trait (and I still count corporate companies like IBM or Nike among my clients), as you'd be pegged as the corporate stiff with no imagination. What you wear is all relative to expectations of colleagues and clients.

Every man should have a great suit and all that goes with it. But that doesn't mean you have to dress like that every day of the week or you're a nobody who doesn't care about his career.

Actually, this is a great point. If wearing a suit would put you totally out of what the company norm is, you probably shouldn't do it.

At my company, wearing a suit would probably be too much. I wear pants and a nice button up shirt most of the time with nice shoes. So you have to adjust what you are wearing to your environment.

That being said, people can still dress nice even if everyone else dress extremely relaxed or casual.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by worth

Offices have become too casual. You are in a professional setting, wear professional clothing. Even if you "don't have to". People notice.

But I don't meet clients and it's our corporate culture to dress casual. I don't see anything wrong with it. The execs still get all dolled up during the quarterly board meetings sure, but other than that, even they dress casual. So it would look weird if I outdressed my bosses.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by peter12

Nothing turns me off more than women who wear flip-flops in a professional setting.

What if she was wearing flip flops but reading Nietzsche?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Yup that is the "new" environment. Suites and nice shoes are sort of seen as... old and arcane.

And that's a shame.