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Old 08-11-2010, 12:55 PM   #81
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My parents worked incredibly hard to provide a good life to my siblings and I, my dad worked 80 or 90 hour weeks for 10-15 years of his life when he finished University. There's no question that he has the money to buy me a nice car and put me through school and throw the down payment on a house my way, but if I ever asked for any of that he would laugh me out of the room.

I think there's something to be said for doing it on your own with minimal help. I'll graduate university with $20,000 in student loans and nothing to my name except a 10 year old car. My dad could probably pay that off for me with one paycheque, but he wouldn't, because what kind of message does that send?
My dad and mom worked very hard as well. My dad came to Canada when he was 19. Did civil engineering and had his machinist journeyman ticket. Had diabetes and unfortunately died when I was 19(he was 49).

My mom did labor. We were middle class.


My brother is the one who helped me out overall
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:58 PM   #82
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Some people just don't know how to change their lifestyle - or don't want to - simply because their hard work made them lots of money.
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Oh I agree with you. Money isn't everything though.

I bet 8/10 would prefer making less and have their free time/family time

Big trade off
I agree. I don't ever really plan on having kids so I consider myself lucky in respect to the fact that I can work a little less and still retain more income and free time than people who do have kids.

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My parents worked incredibly hard to provide a good life to my siblings and I, my dad worked 80 or 90 hour weeks for 10-15 years of his life when he finished University. There's no question that he has the money to buy me a nice car and put me through school and throw the down payment on a house my way, but if I ever asked for any of that he would laugh me out of the room.
Yep, my girlfriend's parents are like that with her. They're very well off but she has to earn everything. The only thing about it that pisses me off is that they've been giving her brother a free ride the entire time.

I'm 23 right now and have been working and living on my own pretty much since I graduated high school, so I've never really had enough money to go to school. I have a couple of uni courses under my belt but I'm finally taking the full-time plunge this year. My dad has said he'll lend me some money for school but that I'm responsible for my living expenses (we live in different cities)and any extra costs (i.e. medical, entertainment, etc.).
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I had a $17 000+ loan for Uni. Took me a while, but paid it off

Actual student loan
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I had a $17 000+ loan for Uni. Took me a while, but paid it off

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Yeah, that's where I was headed but my dad said he'd help me out as long as I got straight As. I'm planning on heading to law school after I'm done my undergrad so I'm sure I'll rack up the student loans.
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That's not much in this economy.

To the other guy. What's the difference if I went to a Bank?

I have to work my butt off and pay my loan off every month, which is a lot
If you have 600k in cash sitting around and still have to work your butt off, you are doing it very wrong. You should have been able to double that money the last few years.
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Consider yourself lucky, that's half a semester at a lot of American schools. I know people who are nearing their 40's and still have $150,000+ school loans on the books......and they went to art school. Good luck paying that one off.

The relatively low cost of education in Canada is one if it's biggest assets imo. You're in a hole when you graduate, but it's a manageable one for most. The size of the hole in the US for most grads is akin to the one last month in Guatemala.
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I feel like someone is having their own conversation in this thread. I don't believe I have anyone on ignore it just feels like there is one person tooting their own horn... ah well.

Put me in the group of never owning expesnive shoes. I am wearing a pair of Aldo's that I have had for over a year but they need to go. The sole is worn out, the sides scuffed up. I never really paid too much attention to shoes but if people say these high quality ones "last a lifetime" then maybe I should be checking some out.
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Threads like this make me happy I can wear flip-flops and shorts to work.

Frankly, I can think of loads of things better than fancy clothes and shoes to spend my cash on.
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http://www.andrewisgettingfit.com/wp...ingers_KSO.jpg

I have about 1,000km's running on these ugly things.....all for $90 I used to spend a couple hundred bucks every 500km's on other "foot cast" type shoes....Good luck trying to find any in this city though as I bought another pair recently and had a tough time getting them online even...MEC and Fitter are always sold out....ugly but good!
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It's called saving up.
I see nothing wrong with spending on super nice clothes if they are done right.

It is also the cultural norm here in Calgary to spend disgusting amounts on your car, and wear garbage clothes. Pay $300 for a pair of jeans, and people will make fun of you. However, they won't even sneeze at paying $1000 for mechanical work to their $50K truck.

Many places in the world outside Calgary have it the other way around. People walk/subway it around town and spend their car money on clothes. Just priority.

To me, if you get out of an expensive car on Friday night, and are wearing jogging pants, your priorities are screwed up, but again that is just my opinion.
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I see nothing wrong with spending on super nice clothes if they are done right.

It is also the cultural norm here in Calgary to spend disgusting amounts on your car, and wear garbage clothes. Pay $300 for a pair of jeans, and people will make fun of you. However, they won't even sneeze at paying $1000 for mechanical work to their $50K truck.

Many places in the world outside Calgary have it the other way around. People walk/subway it around town and spend their car money on clothes. Just priority.

To me, if you get out of an expensive car on Friday night, and are wearing jogging pants, your priorities are screwed up, but again that is just my opinion.
I believe that is what is known as a Chav.
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I have about 1,000km's running on these ugly things.....all for $90 I used to spend a couple hundred bucks every 500km's on other "foot cast" type shoes....Good luck trying to find any in this city though as I bought another pair recently and had a tough time getting them online even...MEC and Fitter are always sold out....ugly but good!
Indeed! Bare foot running is becoming the new fad very quickly. Looks like Nike has a line-up of Free-run runners that are rather inexpensive.

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p...ogSource=en_CA
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Threads like this make me happy I can wear flip-flops and shorts to work.

Frankly, I can think of loads of things better than fancy clothes and shoes to spend my cash on.
Are you a lifeguard or something? What kind of business allows flip flops and shorts?

I think its possible to find a happy medium. I don't spend huge amounts on clothes but still dress up accordingly at work and when going out. There's a line you can cross and end up spending too much, but its also possible to spend too little and end up with something that is basically crap.
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Indeed! Bare foot running is becoming the new fad very quickly. Looks like Nike has a line-up of Free-run runners that are rather inexpensive.

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p...ogSource=en_CA


Read "Born to Run" last summer and it completely changed my way of thinking. I haven't been injured ever since...Even a birthdayshoes forum devoted to these shoes I stop short of wearing mine out in public if I am not running though and have my flip flops on most of the time...
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Hush Puppies for the win, cheap and durable.
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I wear these, and they have to be - without a doubt - the most comfortable flip flops I've ever worn. Super light and comfy, and they stick like glue on rock slab for the outdoors. Best part is I didn't even have to buy them, I won them in a bouldering competition.

https://www.evolvesports.com/BUCK.htm

My boss wears a hawaii shirt and sandles, so I want to try braving wearing these to work.
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Are you a lifeguard or something? What kind of business allows flip flops and shorts?

I think its possible to find a happy medium. I don't spend huge amounts on clothes but still dress up accordingly at work and when going out. There's a line you can cross and end up spending too much, but its also possible to spend too little and end up with something that is basically crap.
My company allows it, and I work at an office job. I don't wear flip flops because I hate wearing them, but if I wanted to, I could wear them everyday to the office and no one would think anything of it. But then again, we're not downtown so maybe that has something to do with it.
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I've got you beat, Yen Man. Half the time I don't even wear ANY pants/shorts to the office.

Then again, unless I'm meeting a client, my office is about 2 feet from the couch. Sure makes commuting easy.
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