08-03-2010, 02:24 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
It's a balsy move. I don't want to get into the definition of the word balsy. Waste of time.
Most public "stunts" are balsy moves. Especially knowing the risk to themselves and others, not to mention having the gall to do it on a Calgary landmark.
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No matter what the protest, its unacceptable to risk other peoples lives. That alone should get them a public endangerment charge.
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08-03-2010, 02:31 PM
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#102
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All I can get
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Actually, becoming a billboard would be a potentially profitable re-purposing of an edifice whose "stature" has diminished over the years.
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08-03-2010, 02:32 PM
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#103
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Come to think of it, I think the city should go on the offense to these silly protests. That would be pretty funny.
Want to chain yourself to something? Set up a wall around them to block them from public view. Want to chain yourself to an outside of a building? Reinforce the anchor and lock them out. Chain yourself to a tree? Turn on the sprinklers and fertilize the soil.
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08-03-2010, 02:32 PM
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#104
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
It's a balsy move. I don't want to get into the definition of the word balsy. Waste of time.
Most public "stunts" are balsy moves. Especially knowing the risk to themselves and others, not to mention having the gall to do it on a Calgary landmark.
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I guess your definition of "balsy move" is vastly different than mine. So then, in your oppinion, murder is a pretty balsy move, no?
Edit: Really, call it a balsy move, call it super cool, call it whatever the hell you like. The majority of us realize why is was wrong and why there are better ways to get a message across. Hopefully you'll understand this one day also.
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Last edited by kipperfan; 08-03-2010 at 02:35 PM.
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08-03-2010, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
Its not really ballsy. I set up anchors and do repels every weekend. Its no big deal.
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Do you do it on the Calgary Tower on a Tuesday morning when no one is expecting it?
I think this is a ballsy move, and I happen to think it was effective at getting their name out.It will be the first (if not second) story on the local TV news shows tonight, whether anyone likes it or not.
Of course, I'm winning no friends here because most people who weren't even anywhere near the protest have been angered and inconvinienced by this and are resolute on their postions. Not worth the effort.
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08-03-2010, 02:35 PM
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#106
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Do you do it on the Calgary Tower on a Tuesday morning when no one is expecting it?
I think this is a ballsy move, and I happen to think it was effective at getting their name out.It will be the first (if not second) story on the local TV news shows tonight, whether anyone likes it or not.
Of course, I'm winning no friends here because most people who weren't even anywhere near the protest have been angered and inconvinienced by this and are resolute on their postions. Not worth the effort.
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Well 2 days ago, I did a ascend and repelled a 200 ft cliff. I've done up to 1200 ft face. Its not a building, but I don't want to be a pain in the ass either. All they did was a repel, its no big deal at all.
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08-03-2010, 02:38 PM
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#107
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Do you do it on the Calgary Tower on a Tuesday morning when no one is expecting it?
I think this is a ballsy move, and I happen to think it was effective at getting their name out.It will be the first (if not second) story on the local TV news shows tonight, whether anyone likes it or not.
Of course, I'm winning no friends here because most people who weren't even anywhere near the protest have been angered and inconvinienced by this and are resolute on their postions. Not worth the effort.
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This logic makes no sense! Any group can commit any crime in public and they will by the lead in for the local news. It is not cool, unique nor balsy, if anything it shows an extreme lack of intelligence.
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08-03-2010, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Of course, I'm winning no friends here because most people who weren't even anywhere near the protest have been angered and inconvinienced by this and are resolute on their postions. Not worth the effort.
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It has very little to do with inconvenience. You know that. It's about their message being unclear and their tactics being ridiculous. We get it that you think it's a clever way to make the evening news, but what you're not getting is that it's them that won no friends today, not you. And they're the ones that are supposed to be trying to win friends. So really all they've done is proven themselves to be irrelevant grandstanders that are only in business to have fun and get a kick out of getting in trouble. The losers don't care about "green" or "peace". If they did, they'd stop wasting money on lawyers to get themselves out of jail, and maybe instead spend that money on paying the Calgary Tower to hang their banner for a few hours.
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08-03-2010, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 4X4
So really all they've done is proven themselves to be irrelevant grandstanders that are only in business to have fun and get a kick out of getting in trouble.
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Complete and utter schite.
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08-03-2010, 02:51 PM
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#110
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
It will be the first (if not second) story on the local TV news shows tonight, whether anyone likes it or not.
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Too bad for them they did it the same day that Bernard Callebaut went into receivership. They lost the front page.
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08-03-2010, 02:52 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by 4X4
It has very little to do with inconvenience. You know that. It's about their message being unclear and their tactics being ridiculous. We get it that you think it's a clever way to make the evening news, but what you're not getting is that it's them that won no friends today, not you. And they're the ones that are supposed to be trying to win friends. So really all they've done is proven themselves to be irrelevant grandstanders that are only in business to have fun and get a kick out of getting in trouble. The losers don't care about "green" or "peace". If they did, they'd stop wasting money on lawyers to get themselves out of jail, and maybe instead spend that money on paying the Calgary Tower to hang their banner for a few hours.
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Maybe they should get back to using the funds that they raised to save the whales to save the whales.
Oh yeah, Greenpeace is ok with whaling now, just don't let the suckers who give them money to save the whales know that.
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08-03-2010, 03:01 PM
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At the very least, they should have put up a banner that makes sense. Someone should have gone up with a banner that said "lol wtf?" beside them.
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08-03-2010, 03:09 PM
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#114
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08-03-2010, 03:10 PM
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#115
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
I think this is a ballsy move, and I happen to think it was effective at getting their name out.It will be the first (if not second) story on the local TV news shows tonight, whether anyone likes it or not.
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It is notable that even you think this was all about getting their name out.
The message is already lost.
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08-03-2010, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
It is notable that even you think this was all about getting their name out.
The message is already lost.
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Nope. Dual purposes. Greenpeace has its name out, and the message, as most should expect, was against the oil industry.
It's as simple as that, son.
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08-03-2010, 03:16 PM
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#117
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I've already forgotten what their message was.
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08-03-2010, 03:17 PM
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#118
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Nope. Dual purposes. Greenpeace has its name out, and the message, as most should expect, was against the oil industry.
It's as simple as that, son.
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It was? Can you explain it for me? What exactly does "Separate Oil and State" mean? They don't want the government to be in the oil business? They want America out of Iraq? They want Stelmach to drop all royalties? They want oil companies to regulate themselves? They want no pipelines to the States?
Tell me Ozy.
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08-03-2010, 03:17 PM
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#119
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If Canada didn't have oil and gas, we would be in big trouble.
What does Canada produce?
Nothing. We are an unproductive nation. Most of our economy is based on the service industry.
Beef and Wheat is not what it used to be.
Cheap labour in developing countries with little taxation and lax environmental standards means we get our consumer goods for less.....but we will soon be without middle class jobs needed to pay for those goods.
NAFTA ***k'ed us in the a**
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08-03-2010, 03:21 PM
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#120
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Originally Posted by 4X4
It was? Can you explain it for me? What exactly does "Separate Oil and State" mean? They don't want the government to be in the oil business? They want America out of Iraq? They want Stelmach to drop all royalties? They want oil companies to regulate themselves? They want no pipelines to the States?
Tell me Ozy.
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Dozens of police and firefighters were on the scene at the Calgary Tower Tuesday morning, where Greenpeace activists in full climbing gear unfurled a huge banner protesting what they say is a "cozy" relationship between big oil and the federal and provincial governments.
Greenpeace spokeswoman Jessica Wilson said the protest was to outline “the cosy relationship” oil companies have with the federal and provincial governments that “allows companies to self-monitor in the oil sands.”
Read more:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1660655/
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