you are yielding by driving into flowing traffic? That yield sign is there so that people exiting don't have to compete to get over with people entering. Insurance wise you might have an arguement based on conflicting rules (Changing lanes and failing to yield) but thats only for the damages, injuries follow tort law which would clearly see that you failed to yield.
Drive as you wish. I'm just telling you that if you "merge", and someone "merges" from the left into the exit lane, you will be at fault, notwithstanding CP opinion.
OK Mr. Lawyer Man, how far up the road does the middle lane have exclusive rights to the right lane? If approach the yield and yield to the people in the lane beside me ( ) and some d-bag comes alongside halfway down that lane and changes lanes into the side of my car. Would I be at fault? Is it any different than if it happened closer to the yield?
How in the world could I be deemed at fault? I have my own lane to drive in, from which I speed match and then lane change (i.e. a merge). THERE ISN"T ANYONE TO YIELD TO. That's the point. That's not how a yield sign works.
Perhaps, a yield sign might make sense if the lines were painted on the road different, but the signage and lines have been the way they are for 30 years.
If I merge improperly, and hit a car becasue of that, then I'd be at fault, but If I'm attempting to merge, and a car comes from the left trying to exit and hits me, they would be at fault, as they would have not made sure the lane they were entering was clear.
If you are in that lane and someone moves over into you, you will be deemed at fault. Happened exactly as described to my sister and I think the other driver was just out to prove a point and be a dick. If you are in that right lane and are hit by someone moving over you will be deemed at fault as you failed to yield the right of way. I agree that the whole set up is crappy, but that is the law as it stands right now with the signage as it is.
Drive as you wish. I'm just telling you that if you "merge", and someone "merges" from the left into the exit lane, you will be at fault, notwithstanding CP opinion.
Please show me anything from the drivers handbook or the law that would back that up - namely, something that shows that a yield sign does in fact not allow a proper merge in a situation like this.
I dare you. The only way what you say is true would be to find that. And you won't find it. A yeild sign is not legally defined for a situation like this.
There clearly is a free lane (as the lines are painted), that no one else but the entering traffic has the right of way to be in (other than a safe and legal lane change from the other lane). There simply is no one to yield to if I want to proceed in that lane. Then I speed match, and make a safe lane change.
Please show me anything from the drivers handbook or the law that would back that up - namely, something that shows that a yield sign does in fact not allow a proper merge in a situation like this.
I dare you. The only way what you say is true would be to find that. And you won't find it. A yeild sign is not legally defined for a situation like this.
There clearly is a free lane (as the lines are painted), that no one else but the entering traffic has the right of way to be in (other than a safe and legal lane change from the other lane). There simply is no one to yield to if I want to proceed in that lane. Then I speed match, and make a safe lane change.
A yield states that you don't proceed until safe to do so. If you get hit then it wasn't safe to proceed hence you are at fault
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I use to think that Alberta had a lot of bad drivers. I am just finishing up my trip here in Europe where I have been driving in France and Italy for the last 2 weeks. I have to say that Canadian drivers are saints compared to these yahoos. People over here are just seeking a way to kill themselves.
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It's the way they drive. That's how they've always driven and that's likely how they'll continue to drive.
It's not that they're BAD drivers, it's that they're used to it. It'll be almost the same thing when you go to a lot of places in Asia as well.
Exactly.
I submit the following exhibits from China. Consider yourself lucky that you only dealt with Italians.
Please show me anything from the drivers handbook or the law that would back that up - namely, something that shows that a yield sign does in fact not allow a proper merge in a situation like this.
What shows that a yield does not allow a merge? Perhaps the text contained within the triangle?
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There are both a yeild and a merge sign there. If you are asian, your head explodes immediately.
Ha, hilarious racist post of the day winner!
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You have every right to not move out of the way but you're a dick and you will get tailgated and the brights.
Just be careful last week down in Seattle I did this to a Prius and it was an undercover cop. He didn't pull me over but flashed his lights.
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A clear lane ahead of you seems pretty safe to me. Unless someone makes an unsafe lane change into it.
Exactly, there's clear lane ahead of you.
A yield sign means to proceed when there is a safe gap. A whole clear lane ahead of you that no one else can be in without performing a proper lane change is most certainly a safe gap.
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The number one thing people do on the road that drives me bonkers is that the moment they get behind the wheel, the road becomes a battlefield where everyone else is the enemy. EVERYONE does this. Even nice people.
Somehow we've dehumanized things to the point where other people are just annoyances and obstacles to be avoided or conquered. There is no empathy or consideration for other people. Half the rageful posts in this thread showcase what I mean.
Nothing gets me more riled up either as a driver or as a pedestrian then witnessing acts of blatant disregard for the safety of others. There is ZERO excuse for putting other people at risk. This should be the one rule that doesn't get broken, and it shouldn't have to be made into a law.
A clear lane ahead of you seems pretty safe to me. Unless someone makes an unsafe lane change into it.
It's not really rocket science people. The road does not belong to you. You are yielding. If some guy sideswipes you it's still your fault because that guy is in the right of way. He shouldn't even have to look when changing lanes into a yield lane, altough a very stupid move.
Fails to yield to who? There is nobody to yield to. An empty lane? Gotcha.
Seriously - if you want to follow that to the letter of the law, you would be sitting there forever in rush hour with nothing but pavement ahead of you and cars behind you all the way down the ramp. All because someone in a completely separate lane may or may not want to use it. It simply doesn't make sense.
What would be a lot safer is if strugglers like yourself, that insist on going speed limit or less, would stay to the right so that people that are driving for the road conditions could set the pace of traffic.
I never once stated that I drive the speed limit nor that I drive in the left lane.
It's not really rocket science people. The road does not belong to you. You are yielding. If some guy sideswipes you it's still your fault because that guy is in the right of way. He shouldn't even have to look when changing lanes into a yield lane, altough a very stupid move.
Fails to yield to who? There is nobody to yield to. An empty lane? Gotcha.
If there's a empty lane then who is going to sideswipe you? That lane belongs to people already on that road. If they want to switch lanes into that "so called empty lane" it's their right of way. They own the lane and you are trying to borrow it.
) and some d-bag comes alongside halfway down that lane and changes lanes into the side of my car. Would I be at fault? Is it any different than if it happened closer to the yield?
