Pilsner cowboy hats, available here?

[algernon]

Hmmmm.
Did you leave your account open for your roomate to post with?
If not, you've turned into a bit of a deeb, lately.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by algernon

Hmmmm.
Did you leave your account open for your roomate to post with?
If not, you've turned into a bit of a deeb, lately.

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by valo403

Please stop presenting thios article as if it as indication of Saskatchewan being an economic powerhouse, what it actually presents is the fact that Saskatchewan's business base is relatively small and that tax policies are friendly to attracting new business. Saskatchewan is certainly developing strongly, and has a good natural resource base to utilize, but you seem to think this article makes Saskatoon the equivalent of New York.

I guess I suppose how posting the article could come across that way, but it wasn't my intention. Of course Saskatoon isn't the equivalent of somewhere like New York.

My point was that Saskatchewan is growing strongly and that Albertans' jokes about how Sask. is full of a bunch of losers is simply untrue, especially since Sask. has been outdoing Alberta economically recently.

Sorry for the misinterpretation.

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm

So..... Did we ever find where to score a pilsner hat?

Unfortunately I don't think so! Or at least Poison never reported back if he found one.

I remember buying an Iginla Flames t-shirt in Jersey City one time I was in Calgary and I happened to be wearing my Riders Grey Cup t-shirt. The store clerk made a comment how he was annoyed that apparently nobody ever asked for Riders stuff until they won the Grey Cup.

Could happen with any Championship that a team wins, but for whatever reason I always remembered that comment and sometimes think of it when everyone starts talking about Riders fans.

[algernon]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

I guess I suppose how posting the article could come across that way, but it wasn't my intention. Of course Saskatoon isn't the equivalent of somewhere like New York.

My point was that Saskatchewan is growing strongly and that Albertans' jokes about how Sask. is full of a bunch of losers is simply untrue, especially since Sask. has been outdoing Alberta economically recently.

Sorry for the misinterpretation.

I haven't the time to read your links, so could you tell me how SK is outperforming AB?
Per Capita?
Total GDP?

[Wiggum_PI]

Originally Posted by algernon

I haven't the time to read your links, so could you tell me how SK is outperforming AB?
Per Capita?
Total GDP?

Forgot this: Total cans of Pilsner slammed?

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by algernon

I haven't the time to read your links, so could you tell me how SK is outperforming AB?
Per Capita?
Total GDP?

Can't be bothered to look it up but I will assume that it is in GDP growth. The key factor here is (pulling numbers out of my butt) is say 5% of not very much is still much less than 3% of a lot.

[IliketoPuck]

I don't understand how you are claiming that Saskatchewan's economy is stronger than Alberta's...that doesn't make any sense to me.

Saskatchewan's economy might be growing faster than Alberta's, but there is no way it is as large or larger than Alberta's.

[Ducay]

Of course Saskatchewan's GDP is growing faster than Alberta's right now, its the middle of summer. Just wait until after harvest, then, while 95% of Saskatchewaners sit around waiting for the ground to thaw, Albertans will enjoy continued growth due to the fact we have other industries.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Of course Saskatchewan's GDP is growing faster than Alberta's right now, its the middle of summer. Just wait until after harvest, then, while 95% of Saskatchewaners sit around waiting for the ground to thaw, Albertans will enjoy continued growth due to the fact we have other industries.

Saskatchewan is the leader in terms of Uranium production, produces a third of the worlds Potash and falls just behind Alberta as the second largest oil exporter in Canada.
MOD EDIT: knock it off

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

produces a third of the worlds Potash

So you are able to produce some of the fertilizer you use in growing your grains....

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

and falls just behind Alberta as the second largest oil exporter in Canada.

So you're second to Alberta?

"Alberta has 39% of Canada's remaining conventional oil reserves, offshore Newfoundland 28% and Saskatchewan 27%, but if oil sands are included, Alberta's share is over 98%"

[North East Goon]

The only real thing Saskatchewan has over Alberta is good pizza restaurants. For some reason we cant consistently make a good pizza on average to our friends East of us. Dont jump all over me Lantern, I love Saskatchewan visit a couple of times every year.

[kipperiggy]

Basically, 5 of the 10 cities that are most entrepreneurial/best for business growth are located in Saskatchewan. The article refers to it as a "business boom". The data considered is policy, perspective, and presence.

We've gone from worst to first in a span of about four years," says Marilyn Braun-Pollon, vice-president of the CFIB. "There's been a rebirth on a number of levels."

Back in Saskatoon, Mr. Ashdown is confident the boom is here to stay. "Energy is huge here and I also feel it's going to be huge over the next many years," he says. "Saskatchewan is the new Alberta."

Meanwhile, in Alberta:

Post-boom Calgary and Edmonton ranked lower based on perspective, meaning most entrepreneurs now have a gloomier outlook of the economy after reaching highs two years ago, despite some recent improvements in outlook.

Lloydminster, a city that straddles the Alberta-Saskatchewan border, has the unique vantage point of seeing the migration of workers and investment dollars into Saskatchewan.

Last year, it ranked first because of its strong, optimistic business community with competitive policies. But Alberta's economic and policy troubles this year, caused Lloydminster to slip down the list to No. 5.

In addition, all we have heard during the recession is that Saskatchewan's economy has been the strongest in Canada during the tough times. I can't imagine how anybody could be ignorant to this as it's been mentioned in news report after report.

So thus I've formed my opinion that Saskatchewan is economically and entrepreneurial in a better position than Alberta, which was never the case in the past. And I've provided back-up to this opinion so I'm not sure why it's so difficult to accept that Saskatchewan is now out-performing Alberta.

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Of course Saskatchewan's GDP is growing faster than Alberta's right now, its the middle of summer. Just wait until after harvest, then, while 95% of Saskatchewaners sit around waiting for the ground to thaw, Albertans will enjoy continued growth due to the fact we have other industries.

The article I posted has nothing to do with summer. It's a growing trend. I've analyzed it in my above post. Saskatchewan too has numerous industries. This was perhaps not the case in the past, but it is now. You're behind the times.

[chemgear]

Well, at the risk of others peeps getting upset again at my enjoyment of numbers/market forces:

http://www.financialpost.com/Floodin...087/story.html

2010
Sask: revised down to 2.1% from 3.2% due to wet weather
AB: no direct comment in article but it notes that the revision would drop Saskatchewan as the last province.

2011
Sask: 3.3% revised to 3.8% as top province
AB: 3.5% unchanged

Also note, there isn't much information about how these numbers were derived so I don't really have a good feel for how tight they might be other than 2010 is more than half in the books already.

[kipperiggy]

^ I have no doubt that the absurd amount of rain we have received will negatively affect Saskatchewan's economy. My article is from October 2009, while less recent is still recent enough to be valid. It's not like anybody could have predicted this ridiculous amount of rain (when I say ridiculous, I MEAN ridiculous!!), and as you can see from the article, Saskatchewan will have top GDP growth in 2011, supporting my original point.

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

Basically, 5 of the 10 cities that are most entrepreneurial/best for business growth are located in Saskatchewan. The article refers to it as a "business boom". The data considered is policy, perspective, and presence.




Meanwhile, in Alberta:



In addition, all we have heard during the recession is that Saskatchewan's economy has been the strongest in Canada during the tough times. I can't imagine how anybody could be ignorant to this as it's been mentioned in news report after report.

So thus I've formed my opinion that Saskatchewan is economically and entrepreneurial in a better position than Alberta, which was never the case in the past. And I've provided back-up to this opinion so I'm not sure why it's so difficult to accept that Saskatchewan is now out-performing Alberta.

You have yet to form a valid argument nor have you specifically defined the argument itself. You have also employed argumentative fallacies. I'm pretty sure this is why your "arguments" are hard to accept.

[Yeah_Baby]

This thread has turned into Fox News. We highlight what we want out of a story so it fits our agenda.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

The article I posted has nothing to do with summer. It's a growing trend. I've analyzed it in my above post. Saskatchewan too has numerous industries. This was perhaps not the case in the past, but it is now. You're behind the times.

Psst. It was a joke. You see, I was poking fun at the fact Sask is mainly seen as an agricultural area

Summer = growing season = growing GDP
Hence, post-harvest = no GDP growth

[valo403]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

Basically, 5 of the 10 cities that are most entrepreneurial/best for business growth are located in Saskatchewan. The article refers to it as a "business boom". The data considered is policy, perspective, and presence.




Meanwhile, in Alberta:



In addition, all we have heard during the recession is that Saskatchewan's economy has been the strongest in Canada during the tough times. I can't imagine how anybody could be ignorant to this as it's been mentioned in news report after report.

So thus I've formed my opinion that Saskatchewan is economically and entrepreneurial in a better position than Alberta, which was never the case in the past. And I've provided back-up to this opinion so I'm not sure why it's so difficult to accept that Saskatchewan is now out-performing Alberta.

It seems to me that you really don't understand what your Holy Grail article actually means. It's discussing factors that make a place attractive for new investment, it has nothing to do with existing economic strength.

Let's put it this way:

If you start with 10 and have 50% growth you get 15
If you start with 100 and have 10% growth you get 110

Which of those is in a better position? One is obviously experienceing better growth, but that doesn't equal stronger economy.

You don't seem to be able to separate growth from actual economic power. They are not the same thing. Saskatchewan is growing from a very modest base. When you have little base you need to attract increased investment and development through business friendly policies, hence the tax rates and the findings of your article. An established area, like Alberta, doesn't need to attract businesses in the same manner and at the same time can exploit the existing base (to a point) for tax revenue as they have too many sunken costs to just up and leave. Now if Saskatchewan's growth rate stays high while Alberta's stays low over the long-term the positions could be swapped, but that hasn't happened and nothing indicates it is likely to.