"Fox News North": 24-Hour Right-Leaning Network In the Works for Canada

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

...but I thought Fox News was "Fair and Balanced", why is this article calling them conservative???

Seriously though, I think that slogan can be defended.

If you're Roger Ailes and confident that the majority of the routine media are liberal / left of center, then you can inject fairness and balance into the system by emphasizing the right of center.

They don't claim to be objective and neutral, just fair and balanced compared to the others.

[troutman]

Is it "fair and balanced" to tell outright lies?

[Canuck-Hater]

If its anything like the fox news in america, time to put a parental lock on that channel

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by troutman

Is it "fair and balanced" to tell outright lies?

You can't prove beyond an unreasonable doubt that Fox tells lies. I can't stand by and let you slander their name like that without proof.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by fredr123

You can't prove beyond an unreasonable doubt that Fox tells lies. I can't stand by and let you slander their name like that without proof.

Jon Stewart does it four days a week.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by troutman

Is it "fair and balanced" to tell outright lies?

I agree that the channel has definitely moved away from the boundaries of non-fiction, especially since Obama's election. Listening to Hannity and those three clowns in the morning makes me weep for our society. Shep Smith is one of the few there that has retained his dignity, as well as O'Reilly I guess if you count his good deeds in writing children's books ;-)

However, at the beginning, it was nothing like this and that is why I think the slogan was not that egregious. I guess it's just kinda stuck there. I should have clarified my comments to suggest that at the outset, it was a reasonable slogan.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by troutman

I warned of this in the lib-ndp merger thread. If we had two parties and Canadian equivalents of Fox and MSNBC, this country could become deeply divided like the US.

The country is already deeply divided.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

So besides Azure, who else in Canada would watch this crap? other than for a laugh? hehe

I've never watched a second of Fox News in my life outside of September 11, 2001, and a little bit during the initial invasion of Iraq.

[peter12]

People who just watch the news aren't really informed. What is missing is a social recognition of the philosophy, literature and myths that form and guide our democracy. People should be trying to understand John Locke instead of watching Glenn Beck or Peter Mansbridge or whatever.

This society-wide stupidity didn't used to be so common.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

If its anything like the fox news in america, time to put a parental lock on that channel

Censorship works!

[Azure]

See, I won't watch this channel, barring a serious news incident, and I say let them try.

Assuming the channel will be privately run of course.

[CaptainCrunch]

Honestly I have a lot of trouble with finding credible news sources on T.V.

I watch a lot of CTV News net, I watch some CBC.

I'm an avid fan of the BBC.

CNN is more like entertainment tonight as is HLN.

Fox is just bad.

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Honestly I have a lot of trouble with finding credible news sources on T.V.

I watch a lot of CTV News net, I watch some CBC.

I'm an avid fan of the BBC.

CNN is more like entertainment tonight as is HLN.

Fox is just bad.

If you like BBC, try Al Jazeera. If you get that channel.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by bertuzzied

so besides azure, who else in canada would watch this crap? Other than for a laugh? Hehe

me

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by peter12

People who just watch the news aren't really informed. What is missing is a social recognition of the philosophy, literature and myths that form and guide our democracy. People should be trying to understand John Locke instead of watching Glenn Beck or Peter Mansbridge or whatever.

This society-wide stupidity didn't used to be so common.

That has nothing to do with anything. They are just presenters in an hour-long headline show. I just want my news of the day in a flash.

Obviously you have to dig deeper into any issue of interest.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by troutman

A letter to the Calgary Herald, July 22, 1010:

Our Canadian media cover what the mainstream American media dish out and that is a left-wing view. My husband and I had to search for unbiased coverage, so we turned to Fox News. We watch two to three hours of it each weekday. I have found out about Obama and his cronies in the White House. It is frightening. He has surrounded himself with left-wing radicals who openly condone violence. Obama says he will do one thing and then does the exact opposite. I have found this out for myself because I search for the truth, not just listen to what someone on the tube tells me.

Elaine Galbraith, Calgary

The last sentence is mind-boggling. The rest is just depressing.

Wow! Replace Obama with　Bush and you transport yourself back 2 years！

[Coach]

Awesome! 22 Minutes and Air Farce have become a little dry, nice too see some more news comedy coming to Canada.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by troutman

Is it "fair and balanced" to tell outright lies?

Interestingly, Fox News appears to have been the only major media outlet to treat the recent Shirley Sherrod resignation fiasco in a "fair and balanced" manner, according to venerable media critic Howard Kurtz of the left leaning Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08.html?sub=AR

But for all the chatter -- some of it from Sherrod herself -- that she was done in by Fox News, the network didn't touch the story until her forced resignation was made public Monday evening, with the exception of brief comments by O'Reilly. After a news meeting Monday afternoon, an e-mail directive was sent to the news staff in which Fox Senior Vice President Michael Clemente said: "Let's take our time and get the facts straight on this story. Can we get confirmation and comments from Sherrod before going on-air. Let's make sure we do this right."

Sherrod may be the only official ever dismissed because of the fear that Fox host Glenn Beck might go after her. As Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack tried to pressure her into resigning, Sherrod says Deputy Under Secretary Cheryl Cook called her Monday to say "do it, because you're going to be on 'Glenn Beck' tonight." And for all the focus on Fox, much of the mainstream media ran with a fragmentary story that painted an obscure 62-year-old Georgian as an unrepentant racist.

Cowperson

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

My only fear with a channel like this is that it might highlight some of the more extremist conservative viewpoints that the Conservative party knows they cant win an election on and yet those people are an important part of the fundraising process.

Good point.

I read something in The Economist a couple weeks ago about how some Republican have to adopt (or already believe) some of the extremist viewpoints of the Tea Party just to get on the ballot.

Here in Canada it's impossible to win anything if you are a (vocal) right-wing nut. In some parts of the States you don't have a chance if you aren't a right-wing nut.

Calgary is about as conservative as you can get in Canada, but any campaign (or television channel) based on jingoism, religious nuttery and immigrant-bashing wouldn't have a hope.

[REDVAN]

Is this where Barb is going?