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Table 5 · 07-22-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Muta

I'll move out of the city if McIver becomes mayor.

Who becomes mayor will probably play a part in whether I move back to Calgary, or somewhere else like Toronto/Vancouver. In my mind a vote for McIver is a mandate for continued petty politics and short-sightedness. Calgary has shown a lot of signs of wanting to take steps forward and becoming a real city, and it needs a group of leaders with a strong vision in order to do that. While a Mayor is only one vote on council, that person really does symbolize the direction and voice of a city.....and a city without forward direction is disheartening. A half-decade or more of that? No thanks.

Bunk · 07-22-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

Who becomes mayor will probably play a part in whether I move back to Calgary, or somewhere else like Toronto/Vancouver. In my mind a vote for McIver is a mandate for continued petty politics and short-sightedness. Calgary has shown a lot of signs of wanting to take steps forward and becoming a real city, and it needs a group of leaders with a strong vision in order to do that. While a Mayor is only one vote on council, that person really does symbolize the direction and voice of a city.....and a city without forward direction is disheartening. A half-decade or more of that? No thanks.

Unfortunately for you your choice may be down to Vancouver as pretty much all of Toronto's mayoral candidates are as bad or worse than McIver. Rob Ford for example is one of the front funners.

Table 5 · 07-22-2010, 01:27 PM

That guy looks totally legit.

To sell me a used car.

Ozy_Flame · 07-22-2010, 01:41 PM

I'm liking Naheed Nenshi's platform as well, he seems to be passionate about municipal politics, and whether you agree with him or not, you can't be Mayor if you don't love your city enough to suggest new directions and changes.

That said, I am a little weary about what seems to be his spending ideas. His ideas for Calgary Transit (expansion into the North-Central route, GPS, Smart Cards, removal of the Park 'n Ride fee, better performance measures), his advocation of building the Airport Tunnel and contracting private services for snow removal seem noble. But these sorts of things can quickly spiral out of control in terms of logistics, technology, manpower, etc. . . . It seems like he's planning to do alot of spending while concurrently calling for better transparency at City Hall.

At some point, his call for more spending coupled with public support and transparency will likely contradict themselves. I sure hope he has a master plan for this all to work cohesively.

Ducay · 07-22-2010, 02:13 PM

Gah, I just hope Nenshi and Hehr don't split the sane people's vote....allowing McIvor to win solely on the vote of Sun readers.

Bunk · 07-22-2010, 02:39 PM

Yes, there is a lot of spending on the table. However, fundamentally he is about creating a more compact and financially sustainable city. This will save us billions more than continuing the business-as-usual approach to grow, which is truly the largest factor contributing to out of control spending and costs.

In many ways, Nenshi is more of a REAL fiscal conservative. People like McIver, who while is good at grabbing soundbites about "waste", does very little to actually save the City money. Fighting for lower densities on behalf of the development industry during the Plan It process for instance...

Also, one of Nenshi's strong policy thrusts is quite simply securing more necessary revenue to run a city of Calgary's size. This might include more financial autonomy from the province (an idea the Wildrose Alliance is actually pushing), retaining a higher proportion of the education portion of the property tax. Municipalities get about 8% of the share of the overall tax pie, but deliver a lot of services and build a lot of infrastructure. The balance of revenue between Municipal/Provincial/Federal is fundamentally out of whack and needs to be addressed. Like Bronconnier, who made initial steps in this regard (securing the Municipal Sustainability Initiative for instance) Nenshi is very interested in solving this issue.

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I'm liking Naheed Nenshi's platform as well, he seems to be passionate about municipal politics, and whether you agree with him or not, you can't be Mayor if you don't love your city enough to suggest new directions and changes.

That said, I am a little weary about what seems to be his spending ideas. His ideas for Calgary Transit (expansion into the North-Central route, GPS, Smart Cards, removal of the Park 'n Ride fee, better performance measures), his advocation of building the Airport Tunnel and contracting private services for snow removal seem noble. But these sorts of things can quickly spiral out of control in terms of logistics, technology, manpower, etc. . . . It seems like he's planning to do alot of spending while concurrently calling for better transparency at City Hall.

At some point, his call for more spending coupled with public support and transparency will likely contradict themselves. I sure hope he has a master plan for this all to work cohesively.

Table 5 · 07-22-2010, 03:53 PM

Boy, you sure know a lot for a dirty Torontonian.

Superflyer · 07-22-2010, 04:11 PM

In case anyone is wanting to read up on the candidates here are their websites. They are in the same order as the poll.

Bob Hawkesworth - http://www.bob4mayor.ca/
Joe Connelly – http://joeformayor.ca/
Craig Burrows – http://craigburrows.ca/
Naheed Nenshi – http://www.nenshi.ca/
Kent Hehr – http://kenthehr.ca/splash.php
Jon Lord – http://www.jonlord.ca/
Ric McIver – http://www.ricmciver.ca/
Paul Hughes – http://www.paulinate.com/
Wayne Stewart – http://waynestewart.ca/
Alnoor Kassam - http://www.alnoorkassam.com/

All I can say about these is that for Jon Lord, it is a good thing people do not get elected based on their website alone, that is one bad site.

Table 5 · 07-22-2010, 04:14 PM

Boy no kidding, I didn't even know it was still possible to make a website look like 1995.

kermitology · 07-22-2010, 04:22 PM

I think my dad could read his site pretty well..
HUGE BUTTONS

Ducay · 07-22-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

Boy no kidding, I didn't even know it was still possible to make a website look like 1995.

I thought about running the 'Geocitiesizer' on that page.....but I fear the interwebs may collapse if I do.

fake edit: I did, and it actually made it better!

http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesize...rl=jonlord.ca/

frinkprof · 07-22-2010, 05:58 PM

Apparently Barb Higgins will be running for mayor. Rumour is she will announce on the CTV 18:00 news broadcast.

Bigtime · 07-22-2010, 06:34 PM

Well she has left CFCN, but will say no more. Worst kept secret since McIver's announcement?

Methanolic · 07-22-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by frinkprof

Apparently Barb Higgins will be running for mayor. Rumour is she will announce on the CTV 18:00 news broadcast.

Doubtful:

http://communities.canada.com/calgar...for-mayor.aspx

Bunk · 07-22-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Methanolic

Doubtful:

http://communities.canada.com/calgar...for-mayor.aspx

Denial about running? Have you seen politics before?

frinkprof · 07-22-2010, 11:07 PM

The mudslinging starts.

Craig Chandler, former Ric McIver campaign manager, current Peter DeMong (Ward 14 candidate) campaign manager, involved in other aldermanic campaigns in Calgary, and all-around dickhead goes on the attack on Facebook.

Part one

Part two

Part three

MrMastodonFarm · 07-22-2010, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frinkprof

The mudslinging starts.

Craig Chandler, former Ric McIver campaign manager, current Peter DeMong (Ward 14 candidate) campaign manager, involved in other aldermanic campaigns in Calgary, and all-around dickhead goes on the attack on Facebook.

Part one

Part two

Part three

Wow, didn't take him long to bring up the Nazi's did he. What a clown.

Kjesse · 07-23-2010, 02:32 AM

I was not going to vote for Naheed. His ideas are intriguing, but I'm afraid he'll go on a spending spree. His philosophy and mine are very different.

After reading posts showing Craig Chandler going after him, I'm much more likely to vote Naheed. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I liked McIver until I heard he hangs with Chandler....

Did I mention how much I despise that guy?

(don't even get me started on the Calgary Egmont fiasco. Its even funnier that he now compliments Jonathan Denis as an MLA....)

Reggie Dunlop · 07-23-2010, 02:41 AM

Oh man, that Chandler shiz is awesome.

SebC · 07-23-2010, 03:43 AM

Finally found this online...

City council has decided that developers should pay for water infrastructure in the communities they build. My question: why do anything else in the first place? Wonder how McIver voted...

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

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We asked mayor Dave Bronconnier why council wants to change that now, shifting the burden onto developers and ultimately, new home buyers.

He said, "It's about ensuring that those benefitting from the growth, the development community and the homebuilders, that they're contributing more towards the cost of suburban growth rather than asking existing homeowners and utility customers to pick up that burden, that cross-subsidization that's taking place.

Dead on.