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Old 07-13-2010, 01:42 PM   #501
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Yeah, honestly the Calderon/Diaw/Evans/Chandler trade was bad for Charlotte, but this Chandler/Dampier/Carroll/Najera deal is brutal for them.
100% agree with this.

Why even trade Chandler for pieces that are much worse?
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:39 PM   #502
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Chandler now traded to Dallas. Hope they can still deal Jose and get a decent return. Per Twitter

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Chandler to the Mavs is a very nice coup for Mark Cuban. Bryan Colangelo can't be a happy man right now.
Time for Colangelo to break out the Comic Sans.
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:29 PM   #503
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Crap, I wanted those players
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:43 PM   #504
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Time for Colangelo to break out the Comic Sans.
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100% agree with this.

Why even trade Chandler for pieces that are much worse?
For money reasons.

They get Dampier's expiring contract, Najera is cheap and only has one year left and they get rid of Chandler's deal.

The Toronto deal may have had more talent but it also came with Calderon's contract.

NBA deals, especially with also-rans like Charlotte, are often more about money than on court issues.

Charlotte aren't doing anything with Chandler in their line-up, aren't doing anything with the poo-poo platter they get from TO or Dallas so may as well save money and free cap space for the FA's they aren't going to sign in the next two seasons.
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:21 PM   #506
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Chandler was the cog in that deal that made it what it was. But it does go to show you that Calderon's value is quite high when it's essentially a 2 for 1 deal (Evans stank). I thought the style of play would be great with Chandler around, and wish it worked out. Jordan and Co. have done this enough times where now you can almost be sure other teams will be leary of dealing with that group, or will try to lowball them out of spite. I know he's a different player and all, and would change the type of game they'd play, but perhaps Okafor could be acquired. A huge letdown though as Chandler would possibly be the best Centre ever for the Raps. Jordan went for the money and his deal showed. What a baffoon.
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This isn't really news, but another reason to love Artest

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Well the Turk for Barobosa and Jones deal is official.

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=327508
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Matt Barnes close to signing with the Raptors 2 years 5 mill per year.
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Old 07-19-2010, 07:19 PM   #512
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Not sure how I'd feel about Barnes. Probably a slight upgrade on Kleiza, but it gives us six wing-players (Barnes, Kleiza, Weems, DeRozan, Bellinelli, Barbosa), all of whom would expect playing time and all of whom would be better suited as first guys off the bench. I can't for the life of me figure out how the minutes would be divided between those six.
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Not sure how I feel about it at all, but i Love the that Barnes is tough to play against and can play physical basketball.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:09 PM   #514
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Man, I totally forgot about Kleiza.
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Not sure how I feel about it at all, but i Love the that Barnes is tough to play against and can play physical basketball.
Yeah, I love the idea of having Barnes on the Raptors. I love the identity of this team, I'm just not sold on the talent.
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I'm sure Colangelo is basically thinking this years FA payouts are huge, and these teams paying max contracts are screwing their teams over bigtime down the road. Having a deep roster is fine for me if they're somewhat rebuilding. Barnes is a good signing at the price. I'm hoping Bellinelli gets dealt in this sign and trade, because there are too many soft guys like him out there on this team. Jordan really screwed over the Raps and for the life of me, I can't get over it.
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:24 PM   #517
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Jordan really screwed over the Raps and for the life of me, I can't get over it.
I don't think he screwed them over. They aren't that much ahead with Chandler on the team. Sure he can play a little defense but like every other player on the team he is a complimentary player that doesn't create his own shot or is an effective scorer at all.

He may have made them a little better but with/without him they still struggle big time.

The Raptors were really screwed over when they hired Coangelo.
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Interesting that lots of places (including Barnes' twitter) are reporting this is a done deal. but John Hollinger doesn't think so:

http://twitter.com/johnhollinger
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Interesting that lots of places (including Barnes' twitter) are reporting this is a done deal. but John Hollinger doesn't think so:

http://twitter.com/johnhollinger

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=327953

Looks like he was right. Orlando didn't have the cap space to do a sign and trade with the Raptors. There's still other ways to get this done... Let's see if that happens.

What a weird couple of weeks for the Raptors
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:27 AM   #520
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Wow, at some point this has to affect BC and the Raptors' credibility. Whether it's his fault or not, 2 deals falling through in less than 2 weeks is just not acceptable.

Why sign Kleiza to a MLE in the first place if you wanted Barnes? I'm puzzled by all of this.
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