"The myth Dr. Caner has created about himself seems now to be unraveling. He never came to America “via Beirut and Cairo.” He has never been trained as a fundamentalist Muslim. He has never had been a jihadist. He has never debated top Muslim scholars, in Nebraska or anywhere else. It is impossible for any of us to understand why someone would fabricate or embellish his past, but there’s a great deal of money to be made selling books and DVDs about Islam in post 9/11. Who’s a better expert on the subject than a radical jihadist who has converted to faith in Jesus Christ, right?"
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Originally Posted by Tom Chantry, Senior Pastor, Christ Reformed Baptist Church, Milwaukee
"Preachers are witnesses to the gospel of Christ, and like all witnesses, when they are compromised they weaken the case. Furthermore, no witness can do more damage to his own case than an expert witness…What are we to think of any preacher who regularly and repeatedly tells stories which are not true and publishes facts which are not facts?"
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Originally Posted by Baptist critic Tom Rich
"Unbelievable. Standing in front of shell-shocked Christians after 9/11, and Caner betrays their confidence by lying about where he was raised, where he learned English, and when he came to America. That is deception. A man that is misusing the pulpit to purposely mislead people about who he is and where he is from has no business being in the pulpit."
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Originally Posted by woob
"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
Unreal. I know a person who is planning on going to Liberty University next year. He's pretty fired up about it, but the more I hear him talk about what campus is like, the more I think it's closer to a cult/Bible camp than a legitimate university.
Anyone else have more information about Liberty?
Well, before the Caner altercation, LU has been a hotbed for recent controversy, even within its own Southern Baptist Convention. For the first time in its history, the SBC is beginning to see a sharp decline in its membership. It is widely speculated that this is a result of an increasing political migration within the US away from Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority" and towards the centre. (http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/...nd-in-decline/). Jerry Falwell was not universally loved within the SBC (he joined from out of the Baptist Bible Fellowship), and in the wake of his recent death, I would expect that the more moderate members from within the Convention will begin to be more vocal. One of the reasons that the University has been so unflinching in its defense of Ergun Caner is because he is a tremendously popular figure: he appears "counter-cultural", is brash and confrontational in his speaking, and has fashioned his own image into something that appeals widely to the under-forty crowd.
Within my own field of academic religious studies, we are beginning to hear rumblings that Liberty is beginning to undergo a sharp division within its own faculty along the lines of the controversies in Princeton in the early 20th century that resulted in the resignation of dozens of its professors and the founding of Westminster Theological Seminary. If the fundamentalist core is ousted from the SBC, and if the hyper-inerrantists are deposed from Liberty, then this will create a crisis both within the Convention and the University; it could very well mean the dismantling of the latter, as this theological shift will cause a DRAMATIC impact on virtually every department, which is moulded according to fundamentalist ideals.
LU is notoriously, staunchly entrenched in politics, and along with the SBC represents the current power-base within the Republican National Convention. This has led to a number of political controversies and problems. Last year, LU "banned" the Democratic Club for its support of non-pro-Life candidates: http://www2.newsadvance.com/lna/news...ic_club/16172/
Wow... that comic Photon posted with the child molestation thing.. that is incerdibly disturbing. Not just in subject matter, but the fact that the pervert father is completely cleansed by about 10 minutes of prayer... where the #%$& is the accountability there?
Wow... that comic Photon posted with the child molestation thing.. that is incerdibly disturbing. Not just in subject matter, but the fact that the pervert father is completely cleansed by about 10 minutes of prayer... where the #%$& is the accountability there?
Man that pisses me off.
and people wonder why there is religion bashing. I realize that comic is not indicative of all religions, but I know I tend to group them all together.
and people wonder why there is religion bashing. I realize that comic is not indicative of all religions, but I know I tend to group them all together.
Its tough for sure... but I think there are lots of well to do people in these religions who just keep quiet and go about their worship without bothering anyone. My Grandparents are like this. They never preach or hate or anything. They just go to church, stay mild and gentle, and try to live as good examples for other people. I respect them for that.
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I wasn't sure where else to post this, but this old thread seems to have a high yield of Jack T. Chick content, so this seems like as good a place as any.
There have been rumours floating around for a couple of years about a full-length documentary in production about the life and times of Jack Chick and Chick Publications. At long last, it is available on youtube:
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Originally Posted by woob
"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
After years of "registrations" most guns had finally been taken away. The people had no means to fight against the onslaught. Without access to ammunition, the pockets of resistance are worn away. Political leaders cave in to the terrorists' demands and the nation collapses. ... The executions begin!
Master, we've loaded the city with drugs and alcohol. Your music is also ready. We've booked the hottest groups in the world. Your warehouses are PACKED with low-grade condoms. And hundreds of volunteers are ready to give them away."
Brilliant scientists graciously counsel us little "little people" on climate changes and the coming dangers of global warming. Are they right? Is Mother Earth doomed because of us? They must be right, because they're "scientists!" Hmm... But wait! Let's think about this. Back in the Dark Ages, when the Catholic Church ruled the known world, no one dared question their wisdom ...
When Jesus returns, He'll restore the planet and reign over it for 1000 years. So why the panic? Jesus is calling the shots, not the environmentalists!
rape trigger warning, this is some seriously offensive s***
NSFW!
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(nurse lecturing to gays in an AIDS clinic)
"When I was six years old two big men raped me in a field one night. My body was torn and bleeding. Then they beat me unconscious and left me in ditch to die. The nearly destroyed my body.
I awoke screaming. I felt like something filthy was crawling inside me. Nasty ideas filled my head. I felt like I was losing my mind.
"There's a light! I hear music! Is that a church?"
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"Bad things were done to me, and I'm dirty, ashamed and I want to die! Can Jesus help me?
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If Jesus hadn't saved me and cast out that devil with its nasty thoughts, I could have become a lesbian - or worse - and dying from AIDS just like you are now."
