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Old 07-14-2010, 09:35 AM   #161
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I have yet to see one of these kids do well once they are away from their parents.

They usually implode when they are free and out in the world and all of the temptations that come with it. They have never learned a thing about them or how to control them.

There is a lot more to personal development than school grades.
So every kid you've seen do really well in school has "imploded" in the "free world" (as if she doesn't live in it already). I call major BS. How would the temptations of this world affect her more than anyone else? Especially compared to the students who didn't have the presence of mind to focus on their homework and their future?
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:51 AM   #162
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I've done some recruiting for my company, and in general we'd stay away from a person like that. We want the person that gets 90-95% while participating in other activities and having a life. Shows they are personable, can manage time, and multitask. A lot of people like someone this article is about have no personal skills, cannot accept criticism, cannot work with others, and would waste a serious amount of company time/resources to feed their need for perfection.

I'm not saying this girl fits this mole, just in general I've noticed that to be the case and companies want the more rounded individual 10 times out of 10.

Most people with the level of IQ this girl probably has (through the roof) end up in the academia world anyways. They are just wired different than most, and don't fit in industries. Probably better off for the rest of us, because I would assume most of the scientific breakthroughs come from people like this girl.

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Old 07-14-2010, 10:02 AM   #163
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Well. This took an unexpected turn.
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I knew a girl who had over 90% in everything in highshool and was offered full scholarships to UBC and UVic. One year after going to university, she was hooked on heroin and dropped out.

Hopefully this girl isn't just book smart but has anough life experience to handle life changes.
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It was different with some of my high school friends, two in particular. They were brilliant, they made getting 90's seem effortless. Because of that they were somewhat coddled and cared for by their high school teachers. They were praised, and work effort wasn't really required.

One of them got to university and found out that professors don't really care about you, or your brilliance. They don't give you breaks and they are a lot tougher then high school teachers. He bombed out in less then 6 months and today at the age of 43 he's a really unhappy bartender, who's dad still calls him a dissapointment to his face.

The girl who was so brilliant in high school but repressed by her family, went to university and did what every university student does in the first year. Drinking, smoking dope and boning. AS the work level went up, her high school work habits killed her. She got knocked up and dropped out. the last time I saw her was at my 20th reunion, and she was the haggard looking mother of 3 girls and two boys and drunkenly wondering if it would make a difference to go back to school now.

Just because your brilliant in highschool doesn't mean that your ready for the vigors of the don't give a crap if you pass or fail university.
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I knew a girl who had over 90% in everything in highshool and was offered full scholarships to UBC and UVic. One year after going to university, she was hooked on heroin and dropped out.

Hopefully this girl isn't just book smart but has anough life experience to handle life changes.
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I've taught students like this, From a teachers' perspective, they are a pleasure to teach, unless you make the mistake of giving them 99% on even the smallest assignment. A notable case involved a student using her entire spare period (and my prep.) to argue for a 1% increase.

Undoubtedly, there's a bit of an obsession involved, but some people here have hit the nail on the head; high school really isn't that challenging. If you have above average intelligence, don't skip and study for exams, it's not hard to pull off mid 90's, especially in the less subjective courses like math/science.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:48 AM   #169
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On a similar note, there is little to no correlation between university GPA and career success.
Definitely. In my undergrad. science graduation year, one student had a perfect 4.0 GPA. Six years later, I believe she is still trying to figure out what she wants to do.

Also, for doing graduate work, I know profs who are perfectly willing to take on someone with a 3.2-3.4 GPA if they are creative and can think outside the box.
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We should be paid according to our IQs, and not for what we do.
The new NHL salary cap would be set at $150,000.
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I've taught students like this, From a teachers' perspective, they are a pleasure to teach, unless you make the mistake of giving them 99% on even the smallest assignment. A notable case involved a student using her entire spare period (and my prep.) to argue for a 1% increase.

Undoubtedly, there's a bit of an obsession involved, but some people here have hit the nail on the head; high school really isn't that challenging. If you have above average intelligence, don't skip and study for exams, it's not hard to pull off mid 90's, especially in the less subjective courses like math/science.
What about Pure Math courses? That S**t is hard and pretty much useless in real world application. Only a few kids did really well in Pure Math when I went to HS.
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It was different with some of my high school friends, two in particular. They were brilliant, they made getting 90's seem effortless. Because of that they were somewhat coddled and cared for by their high school teachers. They were praised, and work effort wasn't really required.
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This is true. I wasn't even the best student in high school, but I was able to charm higher marks than I deserved. I'm sort of the opposite of many people. I slacked all throughout highschool to the point that I had to take classes as an adult just to qualify for university, but once in university, I did reasonably well (3.33 GPA - which if you knew me in highschool, would seem like an amazing transformation).

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Probably opening a can of worms here, but the profs care if you're an attractive female. I know many girls that would get extra time for assignments because the knew how to work it.
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What about Pure Math courses? That S**t is hard and pretty much useless in real world application. Only a few kids did really well in Pure Math when I went to HS.
Really? I thought it was a laugh.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:59 AM   #174
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Most people with the level of IQ this girl probably has (through the roof)
If your IQ is through the roof, why would you have to study 6-8 hrs a day (if true). Seems more like hard work than IQ. At least in my experience the smart kids work hard, but didn't have to work that hard.
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On a similar note, there is little to no correlation between university GPA and career success.
I wouldn't say no correlation. For the elite (entrepreneur, executive or specialist in their field) they mostly go to top schools.
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What about Pure Math courses? That S**t is hard and pretty much useless in real world application. Only a few kids did really well in Pure Math when I went to HS.
I use a lot of this stuff in my job. Calculus, probability, et al.
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I use a lot of this stuff in my job. Calculus, probability, et al.
I agree that calculus is useful, as well as probability. But the majority of the pure math curriculum when I went to HS was all that graphing bullsh**t.
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I was the opposite of this girl. I didn't study much, and didn't care. I would cost through the soft courses like Social, English, Biology and get killed in Maths and hard sciences.

I remember taking my report card home and getting the infamous "######ed" comment from my old man.

Social Studies 30 was like 90%
English 30 was 90%
Biology 30 was 90%
Drama 30 was 95% (Come on its drama)
Gym 30 was 85%

Then came

Math 30 25%
Chemistry 30 55%


So Math became my summer killer because I'd go to Summer school apply myself for 4 weeks and walk out with a 75%


There was a great picture in my year book of me in my Math Class curled up under my desk sleeping. There was also the other time that I got in trouble, because I went to school in the 80's and one of the fashions on girls was sweaters with buttons on the back. And I spent the whole class un buttoning the sweater on this girl without her realizing it, when she stood up that sweater came off and the class was exposed to her kmart bra.

I guess I should have paid more attention in those classes instead of being an evil but perverted ninja genius.
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High School Sucked.
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Well when i started this thread I thought she accomplished something great albeit with a lot of studying. To go through 8 courses without getting any marks deducted in assignments, to get no questions wrong through all the quizzes, midterms and finals is just impressive.

Well if IB curves and the top student gets a 100 that's not really that impressive.
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