06-11-2010, 11:01 AM
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I think the Riddler is still a great Idea. Off the top of my head I think he is the most recognizable villain that would fit in the Nolan universe the best.
If they just have him in a stupid green suit leaving riddles around Gotham, then yes it is a bad choice, but there are multiple layers to the Riddler character that can be explored. With the right actor and the right script I think the Riddler could come close to matching Ledger's Joker.
I don't think it would be a terrible idea to also have the Penguin in the movie. The Penguin character is easy to make realistic. It also follows the pattern of Nolan including the mob in the two previous movies and intertwining the stories with the main villain. Falconi, Maroni, the Pengiun.
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06-17-2010, 12:30 PM
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#122
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by Pastiche
That's a pretty condescending attitude to the thousands of excellent professional actors out there. Heath Ledger is the be-all-end-all of Jokers? Hardly, he can be re-imagined, re-cast easily, there is so much to work with with that character that another equally accomplished actor could do an excellent job.
Heath died, but the Joker didn't.
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This.
Heath Ledger was one of my favourite actors, but his Joker was far from perfect. It was full of holes, just like every single comic book character in every single comic book movie.
They could easily re cast the Joker and let another talented actor take it in a direction that fits the movies. I understand why they wont, but they could. I was thinking they could do the Joker in a Silence of the Lambs type role. You have him behind bars, you can barely see his face, a new actor doing the voice... so it is a limited part, Batman tries to get info from him about something big.... some big plot twist... you involve him in the movie, but he isnt a cognitive part. He doesnt ruin the performance that Heath put on, but he is still involved in the plot line.
They did this many times in the comics and every time I was blown away with how powerful it was not just for the one on one interaction between the two (which is always just so insanely well written) but how much it can influence the story line arc.
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07-12-2010, 04:52 PM
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#124
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I think having anyone take on the Joker in this 'arc' of the Batman legacy (the Nolan movies) will be the exact opposite of whe hype behind The Dark Knight.
You can't tell me that a good chunk saw the movie mainly because Ledger died. I wanted to see the movie before, but the idea that this was one of Ledger's last movies added to the need to see it.
To recast the role could have a backlash that would have a completely opposite effect to what we saw with TDK.
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07-12-2010, 05:25 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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It is going to be weird after Batman 3 is done and WB decides to re-boot it again.
They can't get any grittier. I wonder what they'll do, ruin it is my guess.
Hopefully the new Spiderman flicks are in the same vein as the Nolan movies, gritty and dark. Having never read the comic's though I don't know how that'd work.
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07-12-2010, 05:43 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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I just wish Rachel Dawes was not recast...heck, I wish her character never existed. That ruined both movies for me and will ruin the entire trilogy.
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07-12-2010, 09:13 PM
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#127
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3
It is going to be weird after Batman 3 is done and WB decides to re-boot it again.
They can't get any grittier. I wonder what they'll do, ruin it is my guess.
Hopefully the new Spiderman flicks are in the same vein as the Nolan movies, gritty and dark. Having never read the comic's though I don't know how that'd work.
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Vampires. They can do the whole gothic horror theme as that is also one of the subthemes that is prevalent in the bat books if they aren't doing a whole Frank Miller revival.
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07-12-2010, 09:17 PM
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#128
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Originally Posted by Cliche
Vampires. They can do the whole gothic horror theme as that is also one of the subthemes that is prevalent in the bat books if they aren't doing a whole Frank Miller revival.
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07-12-2010, 09:23 PM
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#129
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
I just wish Rachel Dawes was not recast...heck, I wish her character never existed. That ruined both movies for me and will ruin the entire trilogy.
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She was such a non factor that it never really bothered me how bad she was.
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07-12-2010, 10:53 PM
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#130
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
I just wish Rachel Dawes was not recast...heck, I wish her character never existed. That ruined both movies for me and will ruin the entire trilogy.
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07-13-2010, 12:22 AM
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#131
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Originally Posted by SebC
Is it just me, or is it a little early to be rebooting Spiderman?
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Late to the party, but I don't know if it could ever be too early to reboot that trainwreck.
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07-13-2010, 09:38 AM
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#132
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
I just wish Rachel Dawes was not recast...heck, I wish her character never existed. That ruined both movies for me and will ruin the entire trilogy.
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I think shes dead.
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07-13-2010, 10:17 AM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Locke
I think shes dead.
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I hear that they cast 150 pounds of ground hamburger to play her in the next movie.
Batman walks through the bombed out warehouse and see's parts of her hanging from the ceiling.
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07-13-2010, 10:23 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I hear that they cast 150 pounds of ground hamburger to play her in the next movie.
Batman walks through the bombed out warehouse and see's parts of her hanging from the ceiling.
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But would she get an Oscar nom for this portrayal?
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07-13-2010, 10:37 AM
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Norm!
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No, but the meat cow association of America or M-CAA has her up for a special hefer award.
Or the infamous Hef
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07-13-2010, 10:40 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
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I hope they do the Batman: Venom storyline from Legends of the Dark Knight.
Where he gets addicted to roids and goes to town. It's the same stuff Bane was on when he the bat's back.
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07-13-2010, 01:38 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jun 2008
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If they do a re-boot of the Batman franchise, they should do a gritty version like the Nolan films, but include some of the more obscure characters like Bane, Clayface, Poison Ivy. They should get the guy who wrote the story for Arkham Asylum to pen the script (I forget his name).
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07-13-2010, 02:05 PM
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#138
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3
(I forget his name).
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Paul Dini.
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07-13-2010, 02:15 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3
If they do a re-boot of the Batman franchise, they should do a gritty version like the Nolan films, but include some of the more obscure characters like Bane, Clayface, Poison Ivy. They should get the guy who wrote the story for Arkham Asylum to pen the script (I forget his name).
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Originally Posted by Blaster86
Paul Dini.
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How about Grant Morrison?
Arkham Asylum
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07-13-2010, 02:36 PM
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#140
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
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I'll put money on him meaning the game.
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