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Old 07-05-2010, 08:50 AM   #21
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Vancouver Humane Society?

Enough said.
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:25 AM   #22
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While I don't find rodeo entertaining in any way and I rarely ever go, I fail to see how it's cruel to animals. Especially calf roping. Picking up and laying down a calf, tying its legs together, for which they are untied quickly after... yay. I'm sure it gets injured moreso walking over a texas gate.

Maybe horseback riding, but I don't know enough about the horse's physical state to criticize it.

Plus, has anyone ever considered that maybe the horses / bulls / calfs like participating in the rodeo? It is entirely possible. They might get huge orgasmic, sexual pleasure out of it. None of us will ever know.
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I'm all for the riders getting stomped and gored by the bulls.

It's karma, what goes around comes around.

It's most hilarious when it's the Matadors.



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Old 07-05-2010, 09:36 AM   #24
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It's a no win scenario for the bull in a fight.

Matador wins, bull dies.
Matador dies, bull is "put down" afterward.
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:42 AM   #25
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At least the Bull got to seek his revenge on these ass clowns. He'd end up dying shortly after anyways.
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I'm all for the riders getting stomped and gored by the bulls.

It's karma, what goes around comes around.

It's most hilarious when it's the Matadors.
Do you value the life of a bull the same as that of a human? I know a bunch of bull riders and they all fully agknowledge the risks but they are generally a tight knit group of guys who never want to see anything happen to the fellow riders... lest of off get stomped and gored. If you believe in karma look both ways before you cross the street.
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Do you value the life of a bull the same as that of a human? I know a bunch of bull riders and they all fully agknowledge the risks but they are generally a tight knit group of guys who never want to see anything happen to the fellow riders... lest of off get stomped and gored. If you believe in karma look both ways before you cross the street.
I always look both ways.

For humans that treat animals like this? I value the Bulls life more.

Humans have a choice, the animals do not.
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I hate the rodeo. I'm holding out for gladiators.
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:54 AM   #29
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While I don't find rodeo entertaining in any way and I rarely ever go, I fail to see how it's cruel to animals. Especially calf roping. Picking up and laying down a calf, tying its legs together, for which they are untied quickly after... yay. I'm sure it gets injured moreso walking over a texas gate.

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I don't think this calf is having fun and the practice of yanking it off it's feet while it's at a run is occasionally fatal:



I go to rodeo's/chuckwagons but I don't make any pretense about trying to defend the events. Because there's no defence that can be offered.

On the other hand, as I said earlier, this calf isn't veal yet so that's the upside.

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Especially calf roping.
Worst...event...ever.







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More entertainment. . . . . the death of a horse at the 2007 chuckwagons in High River.

The far left lead horse is dropping dead of a heart attack at the finish line, just as I'm shooting the photo below. The driver is reigning in and the guy in the red shirt is looking over, wondering why. The chuckwagon tour is well prepared for this kind of thing. A big screen was hurriedly put up in front of the scene, blocking the crowd out, and about 20 minutes to half an hour later, the show went on. If I'm not mistaken, Humane Society observors are invited to all of these events and were present at this one as well.


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Anyone who has lived on a ranch and ridden horses has run into stuff like that before.

Horses can step into a gopher hole and break their leg, fall over on a hot day because they have a heart problem that is impossible to detect, or hurt themselves just going for a trot.
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I'm all for the riders getting stomped and gored by the bulls.

It's karma, what goes around comes around.

It's most hilarious when it's the Matadors.



Considering bull-fighting has got to be the stupidest sport in the world, I almost agree.
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I always look both ways.

For humans that treat animals like this? I value the Bulls life more.

Humans have a choice, the animals do not.
You do realize outside of accidents happening nobody kills any bulls as a 'sport' during the Stampede?
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You do realize outside of accidents happening nobody kills any bulls as a 'sport' during the Stampede?
Yes I do.
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I'm not a fan of bull fights, but I fail to see how you'd want the rider to get gored for participating in an entertainment venue. That's about the same as wanting a trophy hunter to get mauled by a bear. Or a hockey player to get cracked upside the head with a stick...
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Old 07-05-2010, 10:09 AM   #36
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But veal's delicious!
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I don't think this calf is having fun and the practice of yanking it off it's feet while it's at a run is occasionally fatal:



I go to rodeo's/chuckwagons but I don't make any pretense about trying to defend the events. Because there's no defence that can be offered.

On the other hand, as I said earlier, this calf isn't veal yet so that's the upside.

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Fair enough. I admit I'm probably the least qualified out of anyone to speak on the conditions of the animals during these events.

But, if you're going to be buying veal later in the day, I mean... it speaks for itself doesn't it? And what about that sexual pleasure part I mentioned?
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I'm not a fan of bull fights, but I fail to see how you'd want the rider to get gored for participating in an entertainment venue. That's about the same as wanting a trophy hunter to get mauled by a bear. Or a hockey player to get cracked upside the head with a stick...
It's the chance they take. I'm not rooting for it, but I don't feel sorry for when it does happen.

Hunters getting mauled = funny.

Hikers getting mauled = tragedy.
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I always laugh because people forget that nature and wild animals are not really there for our pleasure, they're there to kill us in truly horrific and probably painful ways.

Given an equal chance a bull is going to instinctively fight back. Given a chance a calf is going to evade the roper, grow up into a superintelligent cow, and one day knock on the cowboys door and upon getting an answer tie up the cowboy, ball gag him and violently violate him.

Nature works in a cycle.
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it's Alberta tradition. It's Calgary tradition.

People in Vancouver need to understand that just because something is "traditional" doesn't make it a bad thing.

You mean like honour killings, the wearing of the burqa, forbidding girls to read?
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