Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum > Tech Talk
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-02-2010, 10:32 AM   #1
Barnes
Franchise Player
 
Barnes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
Exp:
Default Finally, Microsoft Creates Something Useful.

This actually pretty cool and they will make a boatload licensing this out.

Instaload allows you to put batteries in anyway you want.



http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20...html?tag=mncol
Barnes is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Barnes For This Useful Post:
Old 07-02-2010, 10:44 AM   #2
mykalberta
Franchise Player
 
mykalberta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Why would they even waste money designing that?
__________________
MYK - Supports Arizona to democtratically pass laws for the state of Arizona
Rudy was the only hope in 08
2011 Election: Cons 40% - Nanos 38% Ekos 34%
mykalberta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:47 AM   #3
Frank MetaMusil
RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
 
Frank MetaMusil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mykalberta View Post
Why would they even waste money designing that?
You've never experienced replacing dead batteries and then finished screwing the battery door back in.....only to find out they are in backwards?

IMO it's something which rids me of yet another one of life's little annoyances.
Frank MetaMusil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:50 AM   #4
ken0042
Playboy Mansion Poolboy
 
ken0042's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil View Post
You've never experienced replacing dead batteries and then finished screwing the battery door back in.....only to find out they are in backwards?
I actually don't think I've ever seen a device that doesn't have that little "map" showing you which way they go in.
ken0042 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:52 AM   #5
Barnes
Franchise Player
 
Barnes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ken0042 View Post
I actually don't think I've ever seen a device that doesn't have that little "map" showing you which way they go in.
But if you are any kind of a man, you ignored it and put the batteries in wrong anyways.
Barnes is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Barnes For This Useful Post:
Old 07-02-2010, 11:05 AM   #6
mykalberta
Franchise Player
 
mykalberta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil View Post
You've never experienced replacing dead batteries and then finished screwing the battery door back in.....only to find out they are in backwards?

IMO it's something which rids me of yet another one of life's little annoyances.
I guess the + and - signs have never confused me.

I am not saying its a terrible design, I am just wondering why MICROSOFT is wasting money designing it when they could have spent that money on better Kin development.
__________________
MYK - Supports Arizona to democtratically pass laws for the state of Arizona
Rudy was the only hope in 08
2011 Election: Cons 40% - Nanos 38% Ekos 34%
mykalberta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 11:05 AM   #7
Azure
Had an idea!
 
Azure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Exp:
Default

I'd say they have enough money to do both.
Azure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 11:09 AM   #8
mykalberta
Franchise Player
 
mykalberta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

I'd say its a perfect example of the problems that exist there. No focus on core business or anything relates to their core business. Unless of course people are have a hard time putting batteries into mice and keyboards
__________________
MYK - Supports Arizona to democtratically pass laws for the state of Arizona
Rudy was the only hope in 08
2011 Election: Cons 40% - Nanos 38% Ekos 34%
mykalberta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 01:41 PM   #9
Hack&Lube
Atomic Nerd
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

The Chinese will have copied it in about... now.

Man...the implications of this. Our children won't have to know positive from negative.
Hack&Lube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 01:42 PM   #10
Barnes
Franchise Player
 
Barnes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mykalberta View Post
I'd say its a perfect example of the problems that exist there. No focus on core business or anything relates to their core business. Unless of course people are have a hard time putting batteries into mice and keyboards
I really doubt that there was a dedicated project for this. It was probably some guy tinkering on a piece of hardware, had an idea, bosses liked it so they patented it and will now license it.
Barnes is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Barnes For This Useful Post:
Old 07-02-2010, 05:23 PM   #11
Flames0910
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

This is so so awesome.
Flames0910 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 07:16 PM   #12
Vulcan
Franchise Player
 
Vulcan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ken0042 View Post
I actually don't think I've ever seen a device that doesn't have that little "map" showing you which way they go in.
Give yourself a few more years when you need bi-focals, the lighting isn't that good and the device isn't clearly marked.
Vulcan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 06:44 PM   #13
sclitheroe
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Exp:
Default

What a crock of BS...there's nothing special or innovative about this at all - the devices need to be compatible with instaload batteries to take advantage of the fact that the cells have two sets of contacts at each end.

"Hi, we're Microsoft. We're going to ask the battery manufacturers to change the design of their batteries. Then, we're going to ask the device manufacturers to change their devices. Then, we're going to call ourselves innovative"

If anything, this is going to cause more frustration and/or damage to legacy devices when people buy instaload batteries and carelessly throw them into the devices without checking first.
__________________
-Scott
sclitheroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 07:26 PM   #14
BlackArcher101
Such a pretty girl!
 
BlackArcher101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sclitheroe View Post
What a crock of BS...there's nothing special or innovative about this at all - the devices need to be compatible with instaload batteries to take advantage of the fact that the cells have two sets of contacts at each end.

"Hi, we're Microsoft. We're going to ask the battery manufacturers to change the design of their batteries. Then, we're going to ask the device manufacturers to change their devices. Then, we're going to call ourselves innovative"

If anything, this is going to cause more frustration and/or damage to legacy devices when people buy instaload batteries and carelessly throw them into the devices without checking first.
I LOL at all the dumb comments in the article. I hope you didn't read those same comments instead of the article and base your opinion off of them? Because you are wrong.

If you read the article, you'll realize that the batteries are staying the same. It's the device(s) that will have a pair of contacts in each end.
Quote:
Microsoft said InstaLoad can work with any cylindrical battery, disposable or rechargeable, including any standard ones like AA, AAA, C, and D cells, as well as less common ones like those used in some cameras.
__________________

Last edited by BlackArcher101; 07-03-2010 at 07:41 PM.
BlackArcher101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 09:03 PM   #15
sclitheroe
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackArcher101 View Post
I LOL at all the dumb comments in the article. I hope you didn't read those same comments instead of the article and base your opinion off of them? Because you are wrong.

If you read the article, you'll realize that the batteries are staying the same. It's the device(s) that will have a pair of contacts in each end.
Yeah, I stand corrected. From the diagram here: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo...doverview.mspx I inferred that the batteries played a roll too.

You gotta admit though, its a lot of press about essentially nothing. I wonder if there will be prior art claims - I find it hard to believe this is the first time anyone has ever considered doing this.
__________________
-Scott
sclitheroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2010, 09:49 AM   #16
onetwo_threefour
Powerplay Quarterback
 
onetwo_threefour's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mahogany, aka halfway to Lethbridge
Exp:
Default

Quote:
for anyone who as ever tried to put new batteries in a flashlight in the middle of the night.
That killed me because I instantly thought it's probably the one example where this may not work since the batteries themselves are touching to complete the circuit in a normal cylindrical flashlight and I highly doubt that this concept will work if the only thing touching contacts are two negative poles or two positive poles if you don't insert the batteries in the same direction at least...

eg.

+ -|+ - or - +|- + will work

but

+ -|- + or - +|+ - will not
__________________
onetwo and threefour... Together no more. The end of an era. Let's rebuild...
onetwo_threefour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2010, 12:36 PM   #17
flamesfan6
First Line Centre
 
flamesfan6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sclitheroe View Post
Yeah, I stand corrected. From the diagram here: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo...doverview.mspx I inferred that the batteries played a roll too.

You gotta admit though, its a lot of press about essentially nothing. I wonder if there will be prior art claims - I find it hard to believe this is the first time anyone has ever considered doing this.
Trying to do it, and actually doing it are 2 different things. If microsoft has the patent for it then, the people who would try the claim would lose completely
flamesfan6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:55 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy