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Old 06-27-2010, 07:21 PM   #221
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:21 PM   #222
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YUP, reaserched it, every source does state that the deceased was holding/waving/had a gun in the air in hand near the stage.
There is video of the event. You can see it in the "Gimme Shelter" film. The guy clearly has a gun in his hand. It's not just research, you can see it with your own eyes.
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:23 PM   #223
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Our labor legitimizes the banks fake money....as we take their fake loans and turn around and labor to make it into something. After we do that we pay back the principal (which the banks created out of thin air in the first place) and whole lot more to the banks..
I'm trying to understand what you are saying here but I'm not getting it. We accept fake loans and then turn around and "labour" it into something? What does that mean? Not trying to be an ass here, I just don't get what you are saying.

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Banks actually have very little reserve compared to how much they lend out at interest.
This I believe.

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Remember our money is "legal tender" and not backed by anything of value.
Wrong. Currency is backed by the faith of the investor, and that's the most valuable thing you can get.

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It is a big scheme that lines their pockets and puts nations in big time debt. They print as much as they want, and it is the leading cause of inflation.
Who prints as much as they want? Not the banks. Do you mean the Bank of Canada? They don't print as much as they want, otherwise inflation would sky rocket.

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We throw about 160 million dollars away every single day in compound interest payments on our national debt (which is about 800 billion). It is plain and simple not necessary.
How would anything work without compound interest? Why would anyone lend someone else money if they didn't receive something extra in return? It sounds like you believe our economic system should be built on charity.
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:24 PM   #224
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How can you condemn unnecessary acts of violence from one side, but then brush it off so quickly for the other?

I hope the trouble making protestors get some serious jail time, but I also hope a few cops get fired for the crap they are doing. Police brutality and attacks on press freedom is not acceptable behaviour any more than destroying property is.

It's not as one-sided as you think.
Serious jail time for breaking some windows and torching some cars?
Im sure the government could cover that easily if they didnt waste a billion dollars on security for this event.

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Old 06-27-2010, 07:33 PM   #225
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:39 PM   #226
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http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Secret lets police arrest failing show near summit/3201082/story.html

This is BS:

The Ontario government secretly passed legislation giving police sweeping new powers for the duration of the G8 and G20 summits.Police are now able to jail anyone who refuses to furnish identification and submit to a search while within five metres of a designated security zone in downtown Toronto.
Critics reacted furiously to the new rules, which remained unpublicized until Thursday when a 32 year-old m

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Old 06-27-2010, 07:40 PM   #227
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The police are acting like bigger thugs than the thugs.

They passively sat around doing nothing the first day now they are bashing anyone looking cross eyed at them. How embarrassing for Toronto.

Looks good on them!
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:48 PM   #228
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You really don't like Toronto do you?
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:50 PM   #229
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FAKE!

Did you even read this thread? Read it all and get back to us. You'll learn soon enough that there is no way that people who were protesting peacefully would be subjected to any mistreatment by police.

Video evidence is just evidence of video. Nothing more.
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:55 PM   #230
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Fake?

A bank lent me money when I was going to school. I used that money to pay for rent and food and books and booze. Now I pay it back to them every month.

What is "fake" about this arrangement? Did I not eat that food? Buy those books? Drink that booze? Trust me, I did all three. There was nothing fake about it. In actual tangible reality, I used the bank's money to purchase real things.
You are taking the word 'fake' too literally here....I'm saying the job of the central banks right now is to just enter a digital number into a computer and wham! money created.....which is loaned out to our government with compounding interest...

..and I'm not talking about personal loans here..

They don't actually have the tiniest fraction of the total money loaned out in their reserves.....they are lending out money that they dont really have, and recieving our hard earned dollars back in interest payments.

You see, we can cut the middle man out like how it used to be.
We have done this in the past, ........and we can do it again by changing the banking laws. I still have more to learn myself frankly. I am saddened to find out that the NDP and CAP are the only people who know how ######ed our money system is.
On top of all that ...it seems anyone who tries to mess with the banking elite get shot.
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Police drawing criticism...

Arresting journalists!
As the police escalated their tactics, reporters were often kept at bay. Steve Paikin, a prominent Toronto journalist, said that he was escorted away by two police officers who saw his media credentials just before they moved to arrest a large number of demonstrators who were protesting the city’s temporary restrictions on civil liberties.
Mr. Paikin said he saw another journalist, Jesse Rosenfeld, a contributor to Web site of The Guardian, the British newspaper, being held by two police officers while a third punched the reporter in the stomach. After Mr. Rosenfeld fell to the ground, the third officer jabbed an elbow into his back, Mr. Paikin said. Mr. Rosenfeld was released later on Sunday, his family said.The heavily protected meeting area in the city’s downtown core attracted relatively few protesters on Sunday. The largest crowds gathered outside a film studio being used a base for security operations as well as a temporary jail where several people said that they were held in what they described as large cages.


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Old 06-27-2010, 08:03 PM   #233
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These protesters want to be abused by the police. It is the same as the Israel army rading boats. The goal of the protesters both the peaceful and the violent is to provoke unjustified police reaction which will create negative publicity and bring about concessions from the government.

If a protester does not listen to the Police officer they deserve what they get. I don't agree with hosting these events or their effectiveness. But when protestors don't listen to cops they deserve what they get.
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They don't actually have the tiniest fraction of the total money loaned out in their reserves.....they are lending out money that they dont really have, and recieving our hard earned dollars back in interest payments.
The video that you posted said that banks have about $4 billion in their reserves and they have issued about $1.5 trillion in debt. What the video (and you) seem to be proposing is that Canada issue this money themselves. This would require that Canada print and circulate $1.5 trillion. If that were ever done, Canadian currency would become so devalued that you would be blowing your nose with it. The Germans tried to do the same thing after WWI and it crippled their economy.

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You see, we can cut the middle man out like how it used to be.
I am quite sure that things can never be like that again. The cost of living is far too high now to be able to go back to something like that.
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You see, we can cut the middle man out like how it used to be.
We have done this in the past, ........and we can do it again by changing the banking laws. I still have more to learn myself frankly. I am saddened to find out that the NDP and CAP are the only people who know how ######ed our money system is.
On top of all that ...it seems anyone who tries to mess with the banking elite get shot.
What's really scary is when people from the NDP start saying that the Bank of Canada should just print more money to get out of its debt and people start believing that this is a good idea. Don't believe everything you see on youtube folks.
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The video that you posted said that banks have about $4 billion in their reserves and they have issued about $1.5 trillion in debt. What the video (and you) seem to be proposing is that Canada issue this money themselves. This would require that Canada print and circulate $1.5 trillion. If that were ever done, Canadian currency would become so devalued that you would be blowing your nose with it. The Germans tried to do the same thing after WWI and it crippled their economy.
If you watch the rest of the movie there is an interview with a politician (forget his name) and they address the exact point you brought up.
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If you watch the rest of the movie there is an interview with a politician (forget his name) and they address the exact point you brought up.
What part is it in? I watched part 1 but didn't feel like watching the whole movie.
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What's really scary is when people from the NDP start saying that the Bank of Canada should just print more money to get out of its debt and people start believing that this is a good idea. Don't believe everything you see on youtube folks.
That is not what they said at all.

How did you jump to that conclusion?
"I am saddened to find out that the NDP and CAP are the only people who know how ######ed our money system is." ..is what I posted.
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That is not what they said at all.

How did you jump to that conclusion?
"I am saddened to find out that the NDP and CAP are the only people who know how ######ed our money system is." ..is what I posted.
I know, but I've heard the NDP campaign on my campus before and that is some of the nonsense that they spout to university students.
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What part is it in? I watched part 1 but didn't feel like watching the whole movie.
Try part 5 and 6...
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