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Old 06-25-2010, 12:25 AM   #61
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The Flames thrived on 1-0 games in '04, and wouldn't have been able to beat Detroit without playing that style of game. I'm no Flames fan, but I have a hard time believing Flames fans had a hard time staying awake during those games.
with hockey though in a 1-0 game, you still have more scoring chances, hitting, fighting, fantastic goalie saves, etc, which make it much more exciting to watch. you might see one fantastic save in a soccer game if you're lucky since the scoring chances are so hard to come by, and with no hitting the rest just seems like a boring game of kickball played out in midfield
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They did a study and the actual played time in the NFL is 12 minutes.
So you're watching 3 hours of commercials, halftime, replays and huddles.
Wow, didn't think it was true, but I guess it is:

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According to a Wall Street Journal study of four recent broadcasts, and similar estimates by researchers, the average amount of time the ball is in play on the field during an NFL game is about 11 minutes.

In other words, if you tally up everything that happens between the time the ball is snapped and the play is whistled dead by the officials, there's barely enough time to prepare a hard-boiled egg. In fact, the average telecast devotes 56% more time to showing replays.

So what do the networks do with the other 174 minutes in a typical broadcast? Not surprisingly, commercials take up about an hour. As many as 75 minutes, or about 60% of the total air time, excluding commercials, is spent on shots of players huddling, standing at the line of scrimmage or just generally milling about between snaps. In the four broadcasts The Journal studied, injured players got six more seconds of camera time than celebrating players. While the network announcers showed up on screen for just 30 seconds, shots of the head coaches and referees took up about 7% of the average show.
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They did a study and the actual played time in the NFL is 12 minutes.
So you're watching 3 hours of commercials, halftime, replays and huddles.
I saw that recently as I was looking for an official figure on baseball. I just threw out that figure to save myself from having to find the article if anyone called BS, but 2 people can't be making it up.
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:57 AM   #64
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I saw that recently as I was looking for an official figure on baseball. I just threw out that figure to save myself from having to find the article if anyone called BS, but 2 people can't be making it up.
Baseball is different though, it's an untimed game.
Like tennis. Do we care that an ace takes something like 0.01 of a second?
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I actually never find "soccer sucks" people in Vancouver. When I lived in Calgary, they were everywhere.
What do you expect from the diving capital of Canada?
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Baseball is different though, it's an untimed game.
Like tennis. Do we care that an ace takes something like 0.01 of a second?
Baseball is different you are right. It is not a sport.
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I hate watching the faggy teams play.

Right now, Mr. Pepe from Portugal is making faces of extreme pain each time the meany Brazilians are near him. HAHA, Tiaga, or whatevs his name is, actually just got yellow carded for being a diving bitch.

IMO, all the choreographed diving that the fancy pants teams do really detracts from some of the awesome play that occurs in the sport...like the German top-corner goal vs Ghana.

I have no rooting interest, per say, I just hate the drama.
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Just did some stats checking on the Fifa World Cup site

So far there have been 435 shots on goal
Total of 44 games played.
Which averages out to slightly under 10 shots on goal per game.... or 5 per team.

Wow ... thats a blistering pace of 1 shot on net every 9 minutes (counting shots by both teams)..... how do you guys handle all that excitement? ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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Just did some stats checking on the Fifa World Cup site

So far there have been 435 shots on goal
Total of 44 games played.
Which averages out to slightly under 10 shots on goal per game.... or 5 per team.

Wow ... thats a blistering pace of 1 shot on net every 9 minutes (counting shots by both teams)..... how do you guys handle all that excitement? ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Because there is more to the game then goals? Just sayin...

The only two sports I can handle watching are Soccer and Hockey. And that's because both games have a flow to them - rather then the American concept of stop/go (baseball, football). And basketball is just a bunch of prima-donna's running back and forth trying to one up each other (but that's just how the NBA has evolved).

World Cup is an amazing event - larger then the Olympics. Soccer is truly the World's game, no other sport can come close to claiming this. Whether you hate it or not, you can't deny it.
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I hate watching the faggy teams play.

Right now, Mr. Pepe from Portugal is making faces of extreme pain each time the meany Brazilians are near him. HAHA, Tiaga, or whatevs his name is, actually just got yellow carded for being a diving bitch.

IMO, all the choreographed diving that the fancy pants teams do really detracts from some of the awesome play that occurs in the sport...like the German top-corner goal vs Ghana.

I have no rooting interest, per say, I just hate the drama.
Portugal and Italy are the worst for this crap. Tis why I laughed with glee when Italy got booted yesterday

Argentina can be pretty bad for play acting too.
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haha arguing about sports in this vein is like arguing about music. Your favourite sport/band sucks!

Hockey is all about putting the puck on net and the way the goalies and everything works there is going to be rebounds for an ugly goal. "put the puck on net and anything can happen"
You're not going to throw the ball away like that is soccer. The way rebounds work in soccer, you more so have to look at shot totals instead of shots on net.
When someone shoots the ball in soccer and misses the net, it is a lot more exciting than missing the net in hockey. They shoot less often overall, so when they get close enough to shoot it is more "magical" and they are shooting because they feel they can score.

There is problems with soccer that need fixing (too much ref control, diving, etc). But it is a good sport.
I agree with the people that said you need a team to follow to get into sports. Try picking a team and putting $20 on them. Do it again. Maybe you'll come to appreciate it then.

FTR I have a baseball team that I follow, so would watch it over soccer 9/10 where I don't have a regular team that I follow (outside of world tourney's like the world cup)
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Portugal and Italy are the worst for this crap. Tis why I laughed with glee when Italy got booted yesterday

Argentina can be pretty bad for play acting too.
Yes, me too. Now to get rid of Portugal...
I like Messi's game, so I can tolerate a little bit more from Argentina. That said I hope Mexico boots them tomorrow.
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with hockey though in a 1-0 game, you still have more scoring chances, hitting, fighting, fantastic goalie saves, etc, which make it much more exciting to watch. you might see one fantastic save in a soccer game if you're lucky since the scoring chances are so hard to come by, and with no hitting the rest just seems like a boring game of kickball played out in midfield
To be honest, the Flames were brutal to watch that year for this non-Flames fan, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. All that pretend fighting at the end of the games when they were losing was pretty tough to watch, and detracted a lot more from the game than diving ever will.

And there are billions of people that will tell you soccer is more than a game of kickball played out in midfield. But I guess they might be wrong.
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Soccer is as popular as it is because poor people can play it, and by my calculations that equals... pretty much most people on this planet. It truly is a global sport. No other sport can make that claim.
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I can't disagree about the diving, especially when it comes to the Italians.



But having played it, it's certainly not like you have kevlar reinforced helmets, pads, skate guards, and such. Something that looks a kinda soft can actually hurt quite a bit. I was caught a couple times recently thinking a player just got VERY lightly tapped on the head. 2 minutes later they get up and they're bleeding badly trying to get back into the play.
These arguments about "Oh it actually hurts quite a bit because you don't have pads", are just silly. First of all, don't these guys wear shin pads? And isn't that exactly where they all grab as soon as they go down?

Secondsly watch ANY rugby game (including 8 year olds) and you'll see a bunch of guys wearing no pads who get hit WAY harder than any soccer player several times throughout the game. I'll bet you can count on less than 1 finger the number of guys you see rolling around clutching a body part, only to get up as soon as a penalty is awarded.

To illustrate the point, I submit the following:



For the record, both these guys finished their games (though I'm only assuming in Beckham's case)

I'd say one of two things can explain this.
1) Soccer players are a bunch of divers
2) Yellow/Red cards have some sort of magical healing powers that really should be looked into.
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Soccer is as popular as it is because poor people can play it, and by my calculations that equals... pretty much most people on this planet. It truly is a global sport. No other sport can make that claim.
Just because a lot of people play it doesn't mean its exciting to watch. I like playing chess... but watching it would be a real snooze fest.

Not saying the soccer can't be exciting to watch... it can be... for brief intermittent moments... but unfortunately those are far and few between.... in an outdoor soccer match.

Lets face it... the field of play is way too big and most of the game happens away from the goal net.... which makes it kind of boring. If you've got to be a soccer expert to really enjoy watching the game, it loses right there. An exciting sport to watch is any sport that anybody (expert or not) can really get into because the action is "on the edge of your seat" type action and the final result of the game can change at anytime/any moment. Soccer is not that.
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Lets face it... the field of play is way too big and most of the game happens away from the goal net.... which makes it kind of boring. If you've got to be a soccer expert to really enjoy watching the game, it loses right there. An exciting sport to watch is any sport that anybody (expert or not) can really get into because the action is "on the edge of your seat" type action and the final result of the game can change at anytime/any moment. Soccer is not that.
False. I am by no means a soccer expert. I just really started getting into soccer in the last few years, mostly because of playing FIFA video games actually.

But I think really this whole thread is moot. Arguing about whose sport is best is like arguing about musical taste. There will be a few people who you can have calm, intelligent discussions with whether they agree with you or not. And there's a few imbeciles who will stubbornly stick to their guns and insult you in process just for disagreeing with them.
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These arguments about "Oh it actually hurts quite a bit because you don't have pads", are just silly. First of all, don't these guys wear shin pads? And isn't that exactly where they all grab as soon as they go down?

Secondsly watch ANY rugby game (including 8 year olds) and you'll see a bunch of guys wearing no pads who get hit WAY harder than any soccer player several times throughout the game. I'll bet you can count on less than 1 finger the number of guys you see rolling around clutching a body part, only to get up as soon as a penalty is awarded.

For the record, both these guys finished their games (though I'm only assuming in Beckham's case)

I'd say one of two things can explain this.
1) Soccer players are a bunch of divers
2) Yellow/Red cards have some sort of magical healing powers that really should be looked into.
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