Iceland passes gay marriage law in unanimous vote

[Azure]

I don't get it.

Marriage, without the legalization of 'gay marriage' is a joke anyways. 50% of marriages fail.

How does legalizing gay marriage change this?

[MRCboicgy]

This is moreso for the US than here, even before it was legal, but the minute the government got into the marriage business, giving tax and other benefits to couples, it no longer was purely a religious thing. I think the two kinds should be separated.

One thing that baffles me in the US is how gay people cannot visit their bf/gf/partner when they are in hospital because they aren't technically family...it's those kinds of things that should change.

For the US, I agree they should try to take smaller steps for acceptance, but there are too many activists who want the whole enchilada and they want it now.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

In 20 years at this rate, ..people will be allowed to marry anyone or anything. You want to marry an elephant? Sure, why not? The church will be marrying everyone and everything eventually, once they see all those dollar bills rolling by...

Marriage will become even more of a joke than it already is. I think it is between a man and a woman who want to raise a family, and I stand by that even though some folks here might imply that I am hateful or some garbage...

New Rule: Gay marriage won't lead to dog marriage. It is not a slippery slope to rampant inter-species coupling. When women got the right to vote, it didn't lead to hamsters voting. No court has extended the Equal Protection Clause to salmon. And for the record, all marriages are same sex marriages. You get married, and every night, it's the same sex.

- Bill Maher

[amorak]

Originally Posted by Azure

Except that has never been the issue.

Issue has been if a gay Mormon couple wants to get married, and the Mormon church says no, that if they run and complain about their rights being violated the government might step in and force the church to marry the couple.

One of these things is not like the other. based on my casual readings, aka what the missus tells me from perezhilton.com, the Mormons were the ones who supported (financially and morally) the repeal of prop 8 in California.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by troutman

New Rule: Gay marriage won't lead to dog marriage. It is not a slippery slope to rampant inter-species coupling. When women got the right to vote, it didn't lead to hamsters voting. No court has extended the Equal Protection Clause to salmon. And for the record, all marriages are same sex marriages. You get married, and every night, it's the same sex.

- Bill Maher

Hopefully you're right, Maher.

[amorak]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Hopefully you're right, Maher.

If not, there's always the tinfoil hats and that secret lair under Denver International that's controlling the world. the WORLD.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by amorak

One of these things is not like the other.

Well if that is true then it sure as hell curbs the idea of people not choosing to be gay.

Because if you can't choose, then there is a chance that you can get a gay Mormon couple.

[amorak]

Originally Posted by amorak

One of these things is not like the other. based on my casual readings, the Mormons were the ones who supported (financially and morally) the repeal of prop 8 in California.

It appears an award winning film on the Mormon's actions, entitled "8 - The Mormon Proposition" was released to critical acclaim and has some Sundance pedigree.

[amorak]

Originally Posted by Azure

Well if that is true then it sure as hell curbs the idea of people not choosing to be gay.

Because if you can't choose, then there is a chance that you can get a gay Mormon couple.

My comment related to the fact that, again based on my cursory readings, the Mormon church does not condone homosexuality and actively campaigns against it.

[Azure]

You do realize of course that every religious group deals with gay issues?

It doesn't matter how fundamental they are.

And I think the Mormons could get pretty progressive. Hell, they're pretty liberal around these parts. So its not a stretch to think that a gay couple could come along and demand to get married.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by amorak

My comment related to the fact that, again based on my cursory readings, the Mormon church does not condone homosexuality and actively campaigns against it.

I realize that of course.

And I would expect them to continue doing so. But what if the 'gay couple' takes their plight to the courts and demands that their rights be recognized?

[amorak]

Didn't want to get into a religious debate here, especially about a religion I know and care nothing about (Mormonism) and something I know nothing of (homosexuality).

I'll excuse myself from this debate, I've seen posts referencing Plates. I'm outta my league.

[amorak]

Originally Posted by Azure

I realize that of course.

And I would expect them to continue doing so. But what if the 'gay couple' takes their plight to the courts and demands that their rights be recognized?

I am going to leave right after this.

So back up 60 years. If the Mormons campaigned against equal rights for Blacks you'd expect them to keep doing so, too? Based on your logic, you would, because you're afraid the courts would order the Mormon church to allow blacks?

Ugh, enough of this religious stuff - I'm off to look at some videos no religion allows!

...Justin Bieber music videos!

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by amorak

I am going to leave right after this.

So back up 60 years. If the Mormons campaigned against equal rights for Blacks you'd expect them to keep doing so, too? Based on your logic, you would, because you're afraid the courts would order the Mormon church to allow blacks?

Ugh, enough of this religious stuff - I'm off to look at some videos no religion allows!

...Justin Bieber music videos!

Oh .......that's why you're participating in this thread about gay marriage..

I knew it.....

[amorak]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Oh .......that's why you're participating in this thread about gay marriage..

I knew it.....

It's like you have a HPD...
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...Homophobic posting disorder.
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"Someone said something where I can call them gay in a disparaging manner! GO GO GO !"

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by amorak

It's like you have a HPD...
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.
...Homophobic posting disorder.
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.
"Someone said something where I can call them gay in a disparaging manner! GO GO GO !"

And yet, I haven't actually posted anything "homophobic"....

You're kind of sensitive..

[valo403]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

And yet, I haven't actually posted anything "homophobic"....

Umm, yes you have.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Azure

I realize that of course.

And I would expect them to continue doing so. But what if the 'gay couple' takes their plight to the courts and demands that their rights be recognized?

But what if martians land on parliament? But what, but what, but what. That's not an argument, that's scope shifting. Present to me the argument that makes your scenario an actual possibility.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

And yet, I haven't actually posted anything "homophobic"....

You're kind of sensitive..

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

In 20 years at this rate, ..people will be allowed to marry anyone or anything. You want to marry an elephant? Sure, why not? The church will be marrying everyone and everything eventually, once they see all those dollar bills rolling by...

Marriage will become even more of a joke than it already is. I think it is between a man and a woman who want to raise a family, and I stand by that even though some folks here might imply that I am hateful or some garbage...

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by flameswin

What is so homophobic about that?

So because I think that marriage is meant for a man and woman that makes me homophobic? That is a stretch there..