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Old 06-16-2010, 06:19 PM   #1
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"I sit here as a government representative for film and television in the province of Alberta and I look at what we produce, and if we're honest with ourselves … I look at it and say, 'Why do I produce so much sh*t? Why do I fund so much crap?'" Blackett told the panel, to ripples of laughter.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...-backlash.html


Gotta agree with him. Canadian TV is garbage for the most part.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:21 PM   #2
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How much does CBC recieve from taxpayers? Canada is a small country and we don't pay a TV liscense fee like they do in the UK to fund the BBC.

It's hard to create decent TV because of archaic and draconian CRTC rules about what constitutes as Canadian content usually devolving into Canadian stereotypes and cliches that further erode the country's self image.
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I don't get it...although it probably isn't the most constructive or politically correct way of saying it; he does have a point.

Rather than acknowledge the problem, let's pretend it doesn't exist. That way we won't ever apply any resources to fixing it.

The artists with comments in the article are being stupid. They should be saying "Yes, you're right; a lot of it is crap. Now let's talk about how to fix it." Forcing him to backpedal and say that there is good Canadian content might make you feel good about yourself, but it isn't going to get you more funding.

Engineers/the trades/scientists don't get in a fit and say "YES! WE HAVE LOT'S OF GIRLS" - instead they are at career fairs and trying to hook kids when they're young.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:13 PM   #4
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Canadian TV defiantly needs to be improved. But isn't that on the producers and casts to not make such a high volume of low quality shows? Considering with have great access to media technology and resource, we should be able to make at least a suitable number of shows that are good enough quality compare to American shows.

While were at it, why not better commercials too.Tim Hortons is so bad and lame with them.
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Is the ratio of crap per capita ratio really that much higher in Canada vs elsewhere? That’s the real question. If the crap:quality ratio here is 95:5, what is it in the US and abroad?

Could it be that we only produce enough Canadian content to end up with one or two good Canadian productions a year?
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Canadian TV defiantly needs to be improved. But isn't that on the producers and casts to not make such a high volume of low quality shows? Considering with have great access to media technology and resource, we should be able to make at least a suitable number of shows that are good enough quality compare to American shows.

While were at it, why not better commercials too.Tim Hortons is so bad and lame with them.
Hard to make higher quality TV shows when you're in denial which was kind of the point I was trying to get across above.

And an article like this just proves that they are.
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Old 06-16-2010, 10:03 PM   #7
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What is good Canadian TV?

I like(d) Corner Gas.
Um I've heard The Tudors is Canadian (is it?), I've never watched it, but have heard plenty of good things about it.
Not for everyone, but Trailer Park Boys definitely has its appeal to many.

I don't have cable anymore, so I must be out of the loop on what Canadian TV shows are even out there right now.
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I like(d) Corner Gas.
Um I've heard The Tudors is Canadian (is it?), I've never watched it, but have heard plenty of good things about it.
Not for everyone, but Trailer Park Boys definitely has its appeal to many.

I don't have cable anymore, so I must be out of the loop on what Canadian TV shows are even out there right now.
The Tudors is a joint Irish/Canadian production but really it just gets Canadian funding like a lot of shows do so they are not usually recognized as Canadian television and probably wouldn't count for Canadian content by the CRTC but I don't know how their rules work specifically. CBC likes to do this now and basically just sends funds off to collaborate with bigger studios from other countries to help pay for their productions which then gets CBC the rights to show the shows on CBC.

Why is it that the shows considered successful like Corner Gas and Trailer Park Boys are all shows celebrating rural/low income sort of facets of the country?
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Old 06-16-2010, 10:09 PM   #9
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The Canadian government is mandated to fund television programs that 'protect and enrich Canadian culture'. The problem is, no one has the faintest idea what Canadian culture is.

Hence why you see the most random garbage on CBC 90% of the time.

Dragons Den is the stand alone exception right now. Along with several good documentaries that CBC puts together.
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The Canadian government is mandated to fund television programs that 'protect and enrich Canadian culture'. The problem is, no one has the faintest idea what Canadian culture is.

Hence why you see the most random garbage on CBC 90% of the time.

Dragons Den is the stand alone exception right now. Along with several good documentaries that CBC puts together.
Yeah, that's the problem. The country is so young, the population is so small...Canadian culture always results in the same tired tropes being thrown around that nobody is really interested in watching.

Dragons Den is actually a Japanese TV show franchise as well that many countries have.
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Too bad he backpeddled, he should have railed some more.
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The CBC, where 50 year olds ask 40 year olds what 20 year olds are thinking.
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Trailer Park Boys is the only Canadian show I actually enjoy and they commercialized it for the final season.

Besides corner gas (which I hate) what other comedy shows do we have? All we have is garbage on CBC like Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy, which are American anyway.
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But we need Canadian content and opressive government intervention so Canadians can tell their stories!

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Maybe one solution would be to give the CBC the resources that the BBC is given? Compared to the UK we horribly, horribly underfund our public broadcaster.
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What is good Canadian TV?

I like(d) Corner Gas.
Um I've heard The Tudors is Canadian (is it?), I've never watched it, but have heard plenty of good things about it.
Not for everyone, but Trailer Park Boys definitely has its appeal to many.

I don't have cable anymore, so I must be out of the loop on what Canadian TV shows are even out there right now.
Just off the top of my head, Being Erica is actually quite popular not only here, but in other countries as well. Ditto Flashpoint. I also remember shows like Da Vinci's Inquest being of pretty good quality.

ETA: Oh, and who could forget Due South?
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Maybe one solution would be to give the CBC the resources that the BBC is given? Compared to the UK we horribly, horribly underfund our public broadcaster.
Would Canadians be willing to pay though? As mentioned earlier, the Brits pay a fee to the BBC, that's why there are no commercials and the shows are better.

I'd pay if it meant having more than 1 good Canadian show on.
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Paying a fee to the BBC, paying it from taxes, what's the difference?

I said in the thread from last week discussing the exact same thing that I'd like to see the CBC funded to the point where they do not need to air commercials like the British public broadcaster.
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There isn't much of it. Not CBC, but Hiccups and Dan for Mayor are actually two half decent Canadian shows on CTV. If CTV and the other Canadian networks actually invested back some of that money they make (millions upon millions) by simply buying and reselling American shows we can already get from the American networks, then they might actually produce more shows like this and something we as Canadians might tune into. Otherwise, Canadian networks are just a waste of bandwidth IMO.
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