Question: What do I do with this co-worker.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Thats right she is not taking away anything from me, she is taking away a spot for people who trully need it. It may not be a big deal for you or I but it is a big deal for someone who has NO mobility and needs to come to the government building to get service.

I'm all for equality and fairness...but is this really a mountain you want to die on? Seems rather trivial to be honest. People misuse handicap spaces all the time and atleast to her credit she has the accreditation to be there.

[ken0042]

How much is regular monthly parking there? The reason I ask is an idea I have that may depend on how much its worth for her to fight this battle.

The idea- either leave a note or mention to her in passing that you heard that the building management is looking at changing the parking rules on that spot; so she may need to look somewhere else before she loses her spot.

[Cheerio]

A buddy of mine had knee surgery about a month ago and he got to use a handicapped parking sticker for a whopping 3 days.

[Clarkey]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Do you have access to her medical files?

The proof is in the pudding, young feller! If you repeatedly are able to get in and out of your car with no problems you shouldn't be parking in the handi-cap spot!

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Do you have access to her medical files?

Mobility problems can largely be determined by looking at someone and seeing how they walk or move. That is why Insurance companies hire PI's to video tape people who make such claims and why the courts have accepted such evidence.

Like the saying goes, actions speak louder than words.

I am not sure why you are defending some who is abusing the system. I can assure you that this is not something that I take lightly by making such allegations. This has been going on for 2 years now. There have been dozens of complaints. I have no personal interest in this issue other than making sure that people who need the service have the service provided to them.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Clarkey

The proof is in the pudding, young feller! If you repeatedly are able to get in and out of your car with no problems you shouldn't be parking in the handi-cap spot!

That's not really correct.

None of us are doctors. We don't know if her condition is just based around her knees.

If Jolinar raises a stink and is incorrect he invites a whole world of sh%t on his own head.

If Jolinar is that concerned, put an anonymous tip into the facility manager clap your hands together twice and walk away.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Flames0910

a health canada doctor already did sign off on it....

again, it seems to me the problem is the building doesn't have enough free handicapped parking. maybe you should talk to somebody about that and leave this girl alone.

if you don't have an axe to grind then that should be satisfactory...?

Wrong, only her doctor is required to.

http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/...h_Disabilities

Like I said twice now. If she is in need of accommodation there is a program in place to provide 100$ subsidy for the parking.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

That's not really correct.

None of us are doctors. We don't know if her condition is just based around her knees.

If Jolinar raises a stink and is incorrect he invites a whole world of sh%t on his own head.

If Jolinar is that concerned, put an anonymous tip into the facility manager clap your hands together twice and walk away.

Thats the problem. I along with MANY others have, no one is willing to look at it for fear of retribution.

As far as your first post. I can assure you that any of her daily activities at work do not support any kind of consideration for a handicap sticker. She has told her coworkers before that she has received the sticker because of her knees.

If she can run on 3" heals I think her knees are fine.

[jolinar of malkshor]

According to the Alberta website this is how easy it is to get a 5 year handicap sticker.

Blue placards, which can be issued to those with Permanent disabilities that can be self-declared every five years without the medical personnel signature
http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/...h_Disabilities

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

According to the Alberta website this is how easy it is to get a 5 year handicap sticker.

Blue placards, which can be issued to those with Permanent disabilities that can be self-declared every five years without the medical personnel signature
http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/...h_Disabilities

yes and your doctor has to fill out a form for you to be able to do that...

its just a matter of you not having to come in and book an appointment with your doctor every 5 years.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Mobility problems can largely be determined by looking at someone and seeing how they walk or move. That is why Insurance companies hire PI's to video tape people who make such claims and why the courts have accepted such evidence.

Like the saying goes, actions speak louder than words.

I am not sure why you are defending some who is abusing the system. I can assure you that this is not something that I take lightly by making such allegations. This has been going on for 2 years now. There have been dozens of complaints. I have no personal interest in this issue other than making sure that people who need the service have the service provided to them.

No, you're a buttinski.

Just because someone doesn't hobble about with a prosthetic or a walking aid does not mean they don't have mobility issues.

Could be cardiovascular, arthritic or respiratory issues at play. In which case, their gait appears perfectly normal. Might have nothing to do with the since-healed knee.

Long-term disability benefits are notoriously hard to gain. Doctors don't hand 'em willy nilly.

People with physical disabilities have enough to deal with without having folks point fingers at 'em behind their back.

[CaptainCrunch]

doing a little research, people with heart and lung conditions, nerve damage that might not be apparent. People with screws and plates or replacements, vision problems, MS are all eligible for long term parking passes.

Unless you can say for sure that she doesn't suffer from a non apparent disability then you should like I said, make a complaint to building management and walk away. If you harass her about the spot, currently your in the wrong as she has a valid sticker.

The whole PI's filming people for injuries is completely different because the insurance companies have access to those medical records and claims. Do you have the same access?

Even the glib call the press and sic them on them is not a right call if she has a valid pass.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by ken0042

How much is regular monthly parking there? The reason I ask is an idea I have that may depend on how much its worth for her to fight this battle.

The idea- either leave a note or mention to her in passing that you heard that the building management is looking at changing the parking rules on that spot; so she may need to look somewhere else before she loses her spot.

If she is in need of accommodation she could get free monthly parking as the government has paid disabled peoples parking.

A note will do nothing. This women has no shame if she has been doing this for years.

[jayswin]

On a similar funny note. The owner of the company I work for moved into a new location, went out and bought two handicap signs, and placed them up in front of his business.

Anways, a couple days later the owner showed up to drop off some stuff, and just used one of his handicap spots out of convenience. Well, he got a ticket for parking in the handicap spot that he just created.

[Cheerio]

Take a dump on her windshield. That will teach her!

[ken0042]

I think some people are missing the point. I think what Jolinar is saying is that the big issue is that others that are handicapped pay for parking, but she takes the lone free spot which was meant for clients to use. The proverbial icing on the cake is that she also does not appear to be handicapped.

Just thought of another angle; do you know any of the handicapped employees who pay for parking? Can you get one of them to start parking in that spot so she has to find another place to park?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

No, you're a buttinski.

Just because someone doesn't hobble about with a prosthetic or a walking aid does not mean they don't have mobility issues.

Could be cardiovascular, arthritic or respiratory issues at play. In which case, their gait appears perfectly normal. Might have nothing to do with the since-healed knee.

Long-term disability benefits are notoriously hard to gain. Doctors don't hand 'em willy nilly.

People with physical disabilities have enough to deal with without having folks point fingers at 'em behind their back.

If she had a surgically corrected knee injury that required replacement, pins screws or plates she's eligible for the long term pass since walking distances might cause her pain, or damage.

Geez, I have major knee problems, my gate is normal, but an hour of fairly innocuous ball hockey where I wasn't moving that fast or hard has caused me two weeks of intense, and I'm not kidding intense pain due to the hardware that they put in my knees and the buildup of scar tissue.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

No, you're a buttinski.

Just because someone doesn't hobble about with a prosthetic or a walking aid does not mean they don't have mobility issues.

Could be cardiovascular, arthritic or respiratory issues at play. In which case, their gait appears perfectly normal. Might have nothing to do with the since-healed knee.

Long-term disability benefits are notoriously hard to gain. Doctors don't hand 'em willy nilly.

People with physical disabilities have enough to deal with without having folks point fingers at 'em behind their back.

Wow buddy, way to keep it civil.

If she has a disability that is especially permanent WTF would she not get free parking paid for by the government. It is underground heated parking. Maybe because she isnt handicapped?

Even if she is faking the whole think I wouldnt care one bit if she got the free private parking. The only reason I give a crap is because I have to see the people who are really in need not get a parking spot.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I think some people are missing the point. I think what Jolinar is saying is that the big issue is that others that are handicapped pay for parking, but she takes the lone free spot which was meant for clients to use. The proverbial icing on the cake is that she also does not appear to be handicapped.

Just thought of another angle; do you know any of the handicapped employees who pay for parking? Can you get one of them to start parking in that spot so she has to find another place to park?

I'm not missing the point thats why he should be going to building management so that they can talk to her about the purpose of that spot. But accusing her of not being valid can open up Jolinar to all kinds of harassment problems.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I think some people are missing the point. I think what Jolinar is saying is that the big issue is that others that are handicapped pay for parking, but she takes the lone free spot which was meant for clients to use. The proverbial icing on the cake is that she also does not appear to be handicapped.

Early bird gets the worm? It doesn't make her "wrong" if she's the first one there and uses the free spot. Morally...maybe...but who knows.