Couldnt they have blockaded the ship? Considering how often we hear of IDF using excessive force I don't know that they've earned the benefit of the doubt.
Probably would have been the same cry for international condemnation if they had merely blockaded the boats. The IDF wanted the evidence on that boat and the only way they could get it was through seizure and search.
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Again, lets not get ahead of ourselves. No 'evidence' has been found. Everyone is assuming that there is a smoking gun when there is no reason to suspect one. This is a humanitarian envoy from Turkey. Why would Turkey of all countries load it up with munitions?
Couldnt they have blockaded the ship? Considering how often we hear of IDF using excessive force I don't know that they've earned the benefit of the doubt.
The flotilla should have followed the rules and docked in Asherod so the cargo could be checked for munitions etc...
Israel made the wrong move in storming the convoy. This looks awful. I'm a strong supporter of Israel and I feel sick.
I have a hard time believing some of the best trained troops in the world carried out a mission that they train for millions of times and shot random innocent people for the hell of it.
There is a difference between dropping a bomb and killing a bunch of innocent people, which Israel has done in the past, and sending your best guys out to search/seize and ship and them just killing a bunch of people who would obviously surrender.
Put yourself on that boat. If you were an innocent bystander, what would you do?
Certainly not put yourself in a position where you can get shot.
Which begs the question, what really happened?
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I'm sure that I'll be branded a commie, Palestinian-sympathizing, tree-hugging, David Suzuki-loving, Heartland-watching lefty nutjob (all of which are not true ), but I don't find the CBC article much different than the Fox News article on the same story.
To paraphrase both:
Israel storms ship, people are killed. Israel says they were defending themselves, Gaza aid people say they were attacked. Israeli soldiers were wounded, implying that shots were fired on both sides. Followed by background info, etc.
In fact, I find that the Fox News article gives a lot more words on the condemnation from other countries, the Free Gaza movement, etc.
Personally, I don't think that aid ships should have guns. And the Israeli commandos didn't shoot themselves, so somebody did. Edit: And this is a developing story, so details are always slow to come out at first.
I'm sure that I'll be branded a commie, Palestinian-sympathizing, tree-hugging, David Suzuki-loving, Heartland-watching lefty nutjob (all of which are not true ), but I don't find the CBC article much different than the Fox News article on the same story.
To paraphrase both:
Israel storms ship, people are killed. Israel says they were defending themselves, Gaza aid people say they were attacked. Israeli soldiers were wounded, implying that shots were fired on both sides. Followed by background info, etc.
In fact, I find that the Fox News article gives a lot more words on the condemnation from other countries, the Free Gaza movement, etc.
Personally, I don't think that aid ships should have guns. And the Israeli commandos didn't shoot themselves, so somebody did.
Wasn't it an AP article?
Fox, CBC, CNN, MSNBC often run the exact same articles because its from the AP or something like that.
The reports came just after daybreak, with the flotilla still well away from the Gaza shore. Israel had declared it would not allow the ships to reach Gaza.
The six-ship flotilla began the journey from international waters off the coast of Cyprus on Sunday afternoon after two days of delays. It had expected to reach Gaza, about 250 miles away, on Monday afternoon.
Earlier, Huwaida Arraf, one of the organizers, had said two more ships would follow in "a second wave."
The flotilla was "fully prepared for the different scenarios" that might arise, and organizers were hopeful that Israeli authorities would "do what's right" and not stop the convoy, she said.
"We fully intend to go to Gaza regardless of any intimidation or threats of violence against us," she said. "They are going to have to forcefully stop us."
After nightfall Sunday, three Israeli navy missile boats left their base in Haifa, steaming out to sea to confront the activists' ships.
Two hours later, Israel Radio broadcast a recording of one of the missile boats warning the flotilla not to approach Gaza.
"If you ignore this order and enter the blockaded area, the Israeli navy will be forced to take all the necessary measures in order to enforce this blockade," the radio message continued.
CNN has pictures of a purported Israeli commando who was injured on a stretcher. He was wearing Nike tennis shoes, not the footwear of elite commandos.
The IDF contacted the boats by radio, clarified that the Gaza Strip is a closed military zone and offered the sailors two options: to follow the navy to Ashdod Port or be commandeered by command according to flotilla organizers.
The initial contact took place about 200 km. off the Gaza Coast. Flotilla organizers said they detected three Israel Navy ships on the radar.
Passengers on the ships were instructed to don life vests as organizers warned of potential Israeli violence.
Israel Radio quoted the flotilla’s organizers as saying they did not expect the navy to meet them so far out at sea.
Reports indicate that the soldiers boarding the boats were swarmed by people with knives and other melee weapons. The firearms were taken from the Israeli soldiers themselves.
Fox, CBC, CNN, MSNBC often run the exact same articles because its from the AP or something like that.
Often they'll use files from the AP, but essentially write their own piece. Or, as you say, sometimes they just pluck the story from the wire and go with that. The CBC appears to be "with files from AP", and the Fox one gives credit fully to AP.
Regardless, if a very pro-Israel site like Fox runs a similar story to the one the CBC runs, where is the bias?
I think theres options beyond storming the ship and shooting a dozen people.
Ahh, you can find a needle in a haystack. I found the one person who still believes you can negotiate with these types.
Here is how that would go.
Isreal - we have a witness (tortured a guy) who said they are transporting guns on that ship and we confirmed it with 2 other sources.
Palestine - no, no guns, how dare Isreal torture an innocent person.
World - lets convene a special UN council to discuss this
8 months later.
World - UN council looked on the ships a few weeks ago and found no weapons.
Isreal - the guns were on the ships 7 1/2 months ago
World - do you really expect the UN to act that quickly, it takes time to bs and waste tax payers money.
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Isreal wouldnt/shouldnt be attacking this ship if it didnt have rock solid proof - it doesnt need anything else to ruffle the feathers of the relationship with the US.
Just because there is gunfire on the ships doesnt mean alot, I cant see how any "sailor" on any ship who might be going close near the horn of Africa would have guns of some sorts. Its not weather crew members were carrying, its if the ship was carrying cargo of that sort on its way to Gaza.
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I have a hard time believing some of the best trained troops in the world carried out a mission that they train for millions of times and shot random innocent people for the hell of it.
There is a difference between dropping a bomb and killing a bunch of innocent people, which Israel has done in the past, and sending your best guys out to search/seize and ship and them just killing a bunch of people who would obviously surrender.
Put yourself on that boat. If you were an innocent bystander, what would you do?
Certainly not put yourself in a position where you can get shot.
Which begs the question, what really happened?
Happened in Northern Ireland. These are commandos, not police officers.
This event will boil down to jurisdiction and authority. Under what authority does Israel have the right to blockage the Gaza. Under what authority does Israel have the right to board boats flying European flags. Under what jurisdiction that does that authority extend to.
This event will boil down to jurisdiction and authority. Under what authority does Israel have the right to blockage the Gaza. Under what authority does Israel have the right to board boats flying European flags. Under what jurisdiction that does that authority extend to.
), but I don't find the CBC article much different than the Fox News article on the same story.
