05-30-2010, 08:40 AM
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This whole thing about patrol cops worrying about "real crimes" though, makes zero sense. They aren't in the homicide unit. Their job is being on the streets, going to calls, making traffic stops, being visible...etc. Has anyone here ever heard of the things police get off the streets because of traffic stops? I'm no expert, but I am willing to bet that the majority of the time, if you follow the "rules" hulkrogan posted above, and you are nice and quiet, you aren't going to be getting crapped on for your window tinting when you get pulled over.
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05-30-2010, 08:48 AM
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#22
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Originally Posted by MaxPower
And tint IS harder to see through, I agree, except it's just like the tint on the sunglasses I see every police officer wearing all the time. What's the difference?
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Really? You can't see the difference between wearing a pair of sunglasses when it's sunny and having your visibility permanently reduced regardless of the weather/driving conditions?
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05-30-2010, 08:56 AM
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#23
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by MaxPower
If the police are that worried about people reaching for guns, then car doors should be illegal. Car doors are impossible to see through!
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Tinting your windows to the point that a cop will pull you over for it is slightly behind driving a Hummer on the d-bag scale.
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05-30-2010, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Coys1882
My opinion on traffic tickets is as follows. If you don't like paying the ticket you get - don't break the law. If you don't like the idea of what you feel are petty laws only existing for the CPS to generate revenue - lobby your alderman to spend tax dollars on things like the police department instead of stupid footbridges. Then they'll be able to focus on 'real crimes'
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Giving them more money would just allow them to buy more speed on green cameras. I'd rather we cut funding the traffic enforcement.
The reality is that the people breaking the law are doing so because they choose to, not because they aren't getting caught.
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05-30-2010, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxPower
I'm surprised you got pulled over for just window tint. Usually it's when they need to make their quotas they'll get you speeding and then tack on the tint as a bonus.
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This is a serious question to anyone that might know the answer. Do police officers actually have a citation quota? Frankly, I would be very surprised if they were told by their superiors "Ok, once you give out 200 tickets you can come back to the station". I'm pretty sure it is more like "Set up a speed trap at so-and-so location and we'll gauge the speeding in that location".
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05-30-2010, 09:50 AM
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There are no quota's. It's just an excuse people use when they get caught doing something illegal.
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05-30-2010, 09:54 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
There are no quota's. It's just an excuse people use when they get caught doing something illegal.
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really? Google search reveals:
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Calgary police admit the force has a quota system for traffic tickets. Officers must dish out at least 20 tickets a month, or an average of one per shift. Deputy chief Rick Hanson says the policy stems from a 1998 program aimed at reducing collisions. He says it's leading to fewer accidents and safer streets. Tickets bring in about 22 million dollars a year for Calgary's police budget. The Calgary Police Association says it brought the quota system to light because 10 constables were disciplined for not writing the necessary number of tickets. They were each given a letter of discipline citing them for insubordination. They're scheduled to appear before the Law Enforcement Review Board. Association president Al Koenig says the quotas make cops look like city revenue collectors. He says more tickets don't mean safer roads.
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http://www.mymcmurray.com/news/modul...article&sid=38
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05-30-2010, 10:03 AM
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Up towards Slave Lake cops sure are cracking down on window tinting. They had a whole story on the news about it and they went hard getting them last couple weekends.
I was stupid and got tint on my front windows, though very light, and I have been stopped once and given a ticket once at a checkstop.
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05-30-2010, 10:12 AM
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Also, do not forget that the police are on the lookout for suspected gang members. Tinted windows do not allow them to just look inside easily; as well it gives them probable cause to pull somebody over. That way they have reason to see if the "Jackie Trans" of the world are sitting in your back seat.
Add to that the safety issue- as others have mentioned if I am driving in somebody's blind spot and I can see they are about to change lanes; it gives me a chance to move or honk my horn. With tinted windows I cannot see the driver. And of course the number of people who die from traffic accidents is similar or greater than those who die from homocides.
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05-30-2010, 10:12 AM
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Actually, one of the main reasons you aren't allowed tinted windows is because, in the event of an accident, emergency response can't break your windows to save you due to the tint adding strength to the window. It's for your own safety.
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05-30-2010, 10:15 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Actually, one of the main reasons you aren't allowed tinted windows is because, in the event of an accident, emergency response can't break your windows to save you due to the tint adding strength to the window. It's for your own safety.
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Actually no. The main reason was said by Ken perfectly.
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05-30-2010, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by puckluck
Actually no. The main reason was said by Ken perfectly.
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Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say Ken was wrong (as we posted at the exact same time), but one of the main reasons is what I stated.
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05-30-2010, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Coys1882
lobby your alderman to spend tax dollars on things like the police department instead of stupid footbridges.
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Capital budget dollars aren't usually interchangeable with operational budget dollars. Furthermore, Provincial grant money (in this case, the Municipal Sustainable Infrastructure funding program) that was earmarked for transportation infrastructure can not have been spent on police, fire, snow clearing, weed spraying, recreational facility operations or other such items.
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05-30-2010, 10:25 AM
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I think this complaint is stupid. There are good reasons for this law. The compainer is just upset he got a ticket and is whining about it. All if takes is one criminal to get a leg up on a cop and shot him through a tinted widow to see the reason for this. You did the crime, do the time.
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05-30-2010, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fotze
My tinting allows me to masturbate while I drive, I guess cops just waant to see me masturbate. Idiots.
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Hey being a cop is a stressful profession, they need the laugh.
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05-30-2010, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say Ken was wrong (as we posted at the exact same time), but one of the main reasons is what I stated.
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Actually I do. Tinting just causes the glass to shatter and stay together and not spray all over the inside of the vehicle so it could be argued it's actually safer.
Last edited by puckluck; 05-30-2010 at 10:47 AM.
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05-30-2010, 10:44 AM
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Plus it's harder for them to see if you're wearing a seatbelt
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05-30-2010, 10:57 AM
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#38
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by puckluck
Actually I do. Tinting just causes the glass to shatter and stay together and not spray all over the inside of the vehicle so it could be argued it's actually safer.
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I thought that side windows had "safety glass"- so it is supposed to just shatter into a million pieces and fall to the ground. I've never actually broken a side window on a car, but after my old car (1984) was broken into the pieces were relatively contained within the car.
My impression was that the idea was EMS workers can smack a screwdriver in the bottom corner (away from the passenger's face), the whole window would shatter but stay somewhat intact, and the EMS guy can just go through it like paper.
If I am right, I can see how a film on the window might give it that much more extra resistance to shattering.
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05-30-2010, 11:02 AM
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Man, the culture of entitlelment in the world these days is unbeleivable. Do some of you really think that having two extra tinted windows on your vehicle is more important than a police officer, other drivers, or pedestrians safety? Really?
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05-30-2010, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Easter back on in Vancouver
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Originally Posted by ken0042
I thought that side windows had "safety glass"- so it is supposed to just shatter into a million pieces and fall to the ground. I've never actually broken a side window on a car, but after my old car (1984) was broken into the pieces were relatively contained within the car.
My impression was that the idea was EMS workers can smack a screwdriver in the bottom corner (away from the passenger's face), the whole window would shatter but stay somewhat intact, and the EMS guy can just go through it like paper.
If I am right, I can see how a film on the window might give it that much more extra resistance to shattering.
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They do shatter into a million pieces, but if you are in a accident and your side windows break then the pieces end up all over you and inside the car. The tint helps it stay together and prevents it from sprayng inside of the car.
Tinting does strenghten the window, but a person who is trying to break it will not have any problem breaking it.
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