Not sure how unique this is to Chrome, but I like how each tab is a separate process with its own memory, so a crash or glitch in one tab affects that tab only and the rest of the browser keeps humming along.
There's a useful comic here that explains some of the under the hood stuff that makes Chrome different (or at least did at the time)
You get memory leaks. You probably just don't notice it. That code is just a sieve.
Maybe, but it doesn't seem to be a problem. According to Task Manager I'm using 1.2 GB without FF open and about 1.4 GB with 6 tabs open. I guess it can ease upwards but with 6 GB total, it doesn't seem to effect me.
Used to be a die hard Opera fan and even started a thread on CP about Opera, but ever since the last update, Opera has been hogging a lot of resources and sitting at 25 to 30% CPU usage. I can't figure out why. I wrote the development team (submitted a bug), but never got a response.
I'm now using Firefox and it is working great for me. Love the Flames persona I found as well as the add ons. I've also had no issues with some of the sites I used to have issues with (mostly work related) in loading within Opera. They load just fine in FF.
I'm not encountering any of the CPU usage problems you seem to be having with the latest version of Opera over 3 different machines. It works fine for me.
If anybody wants to try Opera, it's incredibly streamlined in the newest version, not even a file menu bar. You can still access all the features through the "O" icon on the tab bar. You can also rearrange and customize everything to your own look which helps if you are having issues with needing a familiar setup.
Opera shows very little on the surface but has incredible depth. Almost all functions are keyboard mapped (try pressing F4) through various combinations and shortcuts. Make sure you use mouse gestures.
I've always used IE and Firefox just because I didn't feel like taking the time to get comfortable with a new browser, but thanks to this thread, I've decided to give Opera a fair chance. The good news is that I'm really liking it. The bad news is that this won't be a very productive day since I'll be going through a few hundred pages of the funny pictures thread now that the gifs actually work (though the water balloon pic may have been better in super super super slow-mo).
I use Firefox (OS X). I NEED Firebug. Ad block is nice, but I usually disable it on any site I visit more then twice in a month (if anyone here has it enabled for CP, shame on you).
Is the Smiley Central ad gone? Seriously. That ad alone has probably driven more people to block their ads than anything else. CP at work and smiley central are simply not going to happen. Any ad that talks to me while I'm being sneaky and browsing CP is going to be destroyed.
I have disabled Adblock for CP again because, rightfully so, you have made me feel guilty. I know that the ad revenue is important. If Smiley Central is gone, then we're all good.
Not sure how unique this is to Chrome, but I like how each tab is a separate process with its own memory, so a crash or glitch in one tab affects that tab only and the rest of the browser keeps humming along.
There's a useful comic here that explains some of the under the hood stuff that makes Chrome different (or at least did at the time)
IE8 does something similar, but not all tabs are always running in their own process.
Webkit2 is going to have support for this natively which should be pretty cool. Firefox will be the only major browser without this feature.
I don't know what webpages you're going to that don't render in webkit properly but they are broken.
Also, your company should probably fix their website.
Webkit is easily the best overall rendering engine in widespread use (sorry Opera).
It's good to have competition and choices. If every browser was using the same engine, individual innovation would suffer. I don't see any evidence that Webkit is technically better than Presto. The competition between them for compatibility and speed is good for consumers. Yes Webkit has much wider use and support and it's great that it's open source and wide usage means more compatibility, but Presto is usually at the top of speed rankings as well and both Presto and Webkit pass Acid3.
- Safari and Chrome both use the same rendering engine, WebKit. Open source, and 100% standards-based.
- IE and Opera use their own, private, proprietary engines. Opera is a lot more standards-based than IE is (obviously).
- Firefox uses it's own privately-developed engine, but it is also open source. Not 100% standards-based, but pretty close. Firefox extensions are the only thing really keeping it in the game, though. There are a lot of people like myself, who would like to switch to something more compliant... but just can't give up things like AdBlocker. Every time I switch to another browser, I'm instantly reminded of just how ugly the internet really looks.
Is there an equivalent to Xmarks for chrome? Cloud-based bookmarks are essential. Would assume that's in considering it's Google.
Chrome will automatically sync bookmarks to any other instance of chrome you run under your Google Account. If you need to sync with another browser, I am pretty sure there is a Xmarks as well.
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It's good to have competition and choices. If every browser was using the same engine, individual innovation would suffer. I don't see any evidence that Webkit is technically better than Presto. The competition between them for compatibility and speed is good for consumers. Yes Webkit has much wider use and support and it's great that it's open source and wide usage means more compatibility, but Presto is usually at the top of speed rankings as well and both Presto and Webkit pass Acid3.
Probably should have clarified; I'm not knocking Presto at all, it's just that nobody uses Opera, for whatever reason. Of the big 3: webkit, gecko, and trident; webkit's easily the best.
I use Chrome because it's fast. I was on Firefox but it started being slow and crashing. It was probably user error, but I'm not too much of a techie so I just switched to Chrome. I just want something that is fast and won't crash very often.
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I'm not encountering any of the CPU usage problems you seem to be having with the latest version of Opera over 3 different machines. It works fine for me.
Yeah, I only had the issue on one system and I can't duplicate it. I've disabled everything and it didn't matter. As I said, I wrote a bug report to them but they never responded. I finally gave up.
Regardless, FF is working very well for me and sites that I was unable to visit using Opera, I can now visit with FF without issue.
Many sites do not support Opera and I have had a lot of issues over the last few years trying to visit certain sites with it. FF so far has not caused any issues for me, so I'm happy with it and all the things I liked about Opera, are preset in FF with a few add ons, like speed dial, paste and go, etc.
I have moved almost entirely to chrome except for the odd time I use IE and Firefox for different things.
I like chrome cause its fast, sleek and because the address bar doubles as a google search toolbar.
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I've actually done some config-tweeking in my Firefox. When I load things side-by-side against Chrome, I don't see much of a difference.
I'll see if I can extract all the things I've fiddled with to get the speed up and then post it here. One thing to note, though, is that the less addons you use, the better. I think I only use two Firefox addons in total: AdBlock and Download StatusBar. That's it.
Well, and a theme (rein), but that's not going to have much impact on browsing speed.
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I know that the ad revenue is important. If Smiley Central is gone, then we're all good.
