Mclean's - Do atheists care less?

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Azure

Doesn't matter. There is a 0% chance that God and religion are a distant memory in 50 years.

I think more and more people will turn away from their belief system, but by no means will God ever be forgotten about.

The next 50 years will be ripe for new age religions to flourish, sadly you see it now in the 'Secret' movement, where new agers add words like Quantum to things and assume that science is agreeing with them.

People like Deepak Chopra will become more prominent and you'll see more of them I think, which is a terrible bleak future!

But I think most of the religious today who don't make a big deal about their beliefs will fall into the agnostic/atheist camp eventually or fall into the spiritualism movement 'without god' in the new ager movements that are the cool thing to do these days.

[Azure]

I don't disagree.

And you will probably see a push away from 'mainstream' Christianity. But I don't think people will ever forget God.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Azure

Nothing more than a 'prediction.'



Proving evolution did happen disproves the existence of God?

Thats a new one.

Learn to read before you spout please

A religious god.

And instead you worrying about what science is doing to your god, how about you prove he exists!

[Azure]

Why is it being thrown back into my face now?

You made it seem like evolution has disproved the existence of God. How should I know what 'God' you're talking about?

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Azure

Why is it being thrown back into my face now?

You made it seem like evolution has disproved the existence of God. How should I know what 'God' you're talking about?

Because if you read what I said you would have noticed "a religious god"

[Azure]

Originally Posted by T@T

Because if you read what I said you would have noticed "a religious god"

Well excuse me for missing that.

So the 'religious God' will be proved to not exist, but Xenu won't be?

Or which Gods will still exist? Zeus? Is he religious?

You're confusing me here.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Azure

Well excuse me for missing that.

So the 'religious God' will be proved to not exist, but Xenu won't be?

Or which Gods will still exist? Zeus? Is he religious?

You're confusing me here.

I won't confuse you again if you remember my statement!

All religious Gods are fairy tales and imaginary.

Hope this helps!

[Azure]

But you still believe that a 'God' does exist?

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Azure

But you still believe that a 'God' does exist?

Do I believe a God created the living things on earth? No. 100% certain.

Do I believe that a God created the universe? No. Am I 100% certain? No.

[Azure]

How can God create the universe but not create what is in the universe?

[Bownesian]

By pushing the Play button.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Bownesian

By pushing the Play button.

Which doesn't really go against any 'religious God' at all.

I happen to agree. In order for mankind to continue to evolve and to continue to expand there had to be a 'natural' process we could learn about and utilize.

Its mindbogglingly ignorant to think God actually actively controls everything and didn't create everything the way he wanted it, and then simply pushed play and let things operate on their own.

[T@T]

If "a" God created the universe chances are he doesn't know about us or cares.

[Reggie Dunlop]

When it comes to charitable donations, atheists tend to support non-Prophet organizations.

[Bownesian]

Originally Posted by Azure

Which doesn't really go against any 'religious God' at all.

I happen to agree. In order for mankind to continue to evolve and to continue to expand there had to be a 'natural' process we could learn about and utilize.

Its mindbogglingly ignorant to think God actually actively controls everything and didn't create everything the way he wanted it, and then simply pushed play and let things operate on their own.

The OP's suggestion was that there is some chance that there is a God that Created the Universe (and the natural laws and whatnot) and started things off with a Big Bang and then everything from the formation of stars and planets to life and eventually humanity is a consequence of those natural laws and the process of Evolution.

Personally, I expect that is the same as saying God causes the Sun to rise or the seasons to change or the rains to come. The honest scientist's answer is we don't yet know how or why the universe is the way it is so we can't rule out that there is some entity controlling it or creating it.

My one question in these debates for the Religious side (especially those who argue that the burden of proof is on the Atheists to prove that there is no God) is this:

Applying your own logic, how do you know the other world religions are wrong? Rephrased my question is: how do you know that the Classic Greeks or the Ancient Egyptians or the Norse or the Hindus or the Buddhists or the Muslims are wrong and your brand of faith is right when they can all (selectively) claim allegory in their mythologies and can all be proven by the same methods you use to support your faith?

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Bownesian

Applying your own logic, how do you know the other world religions are wrong? Rephrased my question is: how do you know that the Classic Greeks or the Ancient Egyptians or the Norse or the Hindus or the Buddhists or the Muslims are wrong and your brand of faith is right when they can all (selectively) claim allegory in their mythologies and can all be proven by the same methods you use to support your faith?

I brought this up many many times and have yet to get an answer, these threads always turn into selective speach from believers.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by T@T

I brought this up many many times and have yet to get an answer, these threads always turn into selective speach from believers.

People probably ignore you because you come across as extremely arrogant.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Azure

People probably ignore you because you come across as extremely arrogant.

Possibly, or...

[Bownesian]

Originally Posted by Azure

People probably ignore you because you come across as extremely arrogant.

Did I?

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Marriage isn't a right. It is a privilege afforded to a distinct group who are best equipped to provide a unique contribution to society.

As has been previously pointed out, it's equality that's a right. If straight people can get married but gay people can't, that's not equality.

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Sure and I don't believe the government should have the authority to tell a church what they can and can't do. That is why there is separation of church and State.

Absolutely the government can and should have the authority to tell and church what they can and can't do. You can't have churches doing whatever they want (like enabling child molesters) just because they're a church. Religion must never be above the law.