05-17-2010, 10:29 AM
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Nemisz Article
There was an article in the Calgary Herald about Nemisz, now i found where people said that Nemisz was skaing bad.
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When Nemisz attended the Flames training camp last September he got good reviews on most of his skills except his speed.
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But there is some good stuff
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"Absolutely, he's got everything you need," said Boughner. "He's got the size, he's got great hands, great vision, his feet have gotten a lot better. He's just a typical young guy that's going to need some time to grow into his body.
"He's definitely going to be a high-calibre NHL player."
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Heres the full article link here
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05-17-2010, 11:04 AM
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The last series he started to come back to that speed," says Boughner. "He needs another summer, but from where he came from a couple years ago to where he is now, he's a powerful skater. He could still use some strength in his legs but he'll be that guy once he gets that NHL speed. He's a pretty dominant player."
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I like that they are trying him at Centre. Once in the NHL, a 6'4" 215lbs centreman who plays a solid two-way game is always something the Flames could use. If nothing else, it adds versatility
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05-17-2010, 11:36 AM
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"We talked to the Flames about him playing centre. He has come to a different role, more of a shutdown role, and a penalty killing role," says Boughner who also plays him on the second power play unit.
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how many of those types of forwards can a prospect pool have?!?
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05-17-2010, 11:40 AM
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This is getting seriously frustrating. It's one thing to preach defensive responsibility, it's quite another to groom our few talented prospects to be checking line forwards.
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05-17-2010, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ren
This is getting seriously frustrating. It's one thing to preach defensive responsibility, it's quite another to groom our few talented prospects to be checking line forwards.
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I disagree. Sounds more to me like they are grooming their offensive prospects to be players that can produce on a scoring line but still have the ability to shut-down the opposition.
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05-17-2010, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
I disagree. Sounds more to me like they are grooming their offensive prospects to be players that can produce on a scoring line but still have the ability to shut-down the opposition.
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the fact that their numbers are on the decline before they even get out of juniour doesn't bode well for them to get back to being strong offensive producers when the get to the pro's.....
i think your reasoning is completely right, but i think fans (myself included) are likely getting impatient with the lack of any kind of half decent forward developed from this flames organization since what feels like the 80s!
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05-17-2010, 12:15 PM
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He has a long way to go in regards to his skating still. Think Chucko with a slightly better touch around the net, I didnt even notice him against Brandon the other night. Bottom sixer if he is lucky is my guess, feel free to shove it down my throat if I am wrong.
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05-17-2010, 12:28 PM
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Darryl will be extremely pleased that Stephane Yelle Ver.2 is on his way. Not that Yelle wasn't an extremely underrated player in his prime but it now appears that it could be a very, very, long time until this franchise ever grooms another elite forward in the footsteps of Iginla.
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05-17-2010, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
the cynicism here is getting ridiculous. The Windsor coach talks about his heart and commitment to the team in coming back from a serious injury. Says he's a "powerful skater", describes him as "a dominant player", and how "He's definitely going to be a high-calibre NHL player.", yet somehow so many here spin this as drafting another scrub 
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as i stated above:
i think your reasoning is completely right, but i think fans (myself included) are likely getting impatient with the lack of any kind of half decent forward developed from this flames organization since what feels like the 80s!
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05-17-2010, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
the cynicism here is getting ridiculous. The Windsor coach talks about his heart and commitment to the team in coming back from a serious injury. Says he's a "powerful skater", describes him as "a dominant player", and how "He's definitely going to be a high-calibre NHL player.", yet somehow so many here spin this as drafting another scrub 
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well, I think a lot of people have reservations about any of our prospects based on the past few years...
As for Boughner, well, I don't know what else you'd expect a coach to say about his player - its nice to hear that his skating has improved, as that is huge in today's NHL. That being said, the games I've seen haven't exactly had me salivating about Nemisz's future...not yet anyways.
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05-17-2010, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
the cynicism here is getting ridiculous. The Windsor coach talks about his heart and commitment to the team in coming back from a serious injury. Says he's a "powerful skater", describes him as "a dominant player", and how "He's definitely going to be a high-calibre NHL player.", yet somehow so many here spin this as drafting another scrub 
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Who called him a scrub? Unless he's a late bloomer you can see that he at best looks to be a bottom 6 NHL forward which isn't terrible but the Flames badly need to turn one of their picks into a big time player and I know that an appologist will pop up and say "well the Flames have drafted in the bottom 1/3 of the NHL for years so that's why they don't draft stars." To me that's a pile of horse dung as that hasn't stopped other teams from picking 1st line players in the 20+ portion of the draft.
It's going to be tough to take in a couple of years as the Oilers look to have at least one or two surefire elite forwars in the making while Flames fans will be left to remember how good Jarome Iginla used to be.
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05-17-2010, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Who called him a scrub? Unless he's a late bloomer you can see that he at best looks to be a bottom 6 NHL forward .
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That's what people are frustrated with - at this point its impossible to say what his upside is. To write off a guy that has had a darn good junior career as a bottom 6 forward "at best" is very pessimistic.
At this point we don't know.
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05-17-2010, 02:30 PM
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I think Nemisz could develop into a Mike Knuble type guy based on very limited viewing of him. Can anyone who has watched him more than 15 times in the OHL this season comment on that?
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
That's what people are frustrated with - at this point its impossible to say what his upside is. To write off a guy that has had a darn good junior career as a bottom 6 forward "at best" is very pessimistic.
At this point we don't know.
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Remember you wrote off Backlund ever achieving an 80 point season.
You're right, at this point we don't know.
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05-17-2010, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
That's what people are frustrated with - at this point its impossible to say what his upside is. To write off a guy that has had a darn good junior career as a bottom 6 forward "at best" is very pessimistic.
At this point we don't know.
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Actually a bottom 6 forward is still a good player and you could opt to say that's optimistic considering there's a chance he may not pan out into an NHLer at all or Jamie Lundmark V2. He's had a good junior career and I fully admit I haven't seen much of him but when I have he has never stood out at all. I hope he turns it into a great pro but there's nothing about his game that stands out at all outside of his size.
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05-17-2010, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by united
I think Nemisz could develop into a Mike Knuble type guy based on very limited viewing of him. Can anyone who has watched him more than 15 times in the OHL this season comment on that?
Remember you wrote off Backlund ever achieving an 80 point season.
You're right, at this point we don't know.
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I saw 95% of Spitfires home games this year, I see a lot of potential in Nemisz. His skating this year, up until his injury was great, not a problem at all. I think that injury really set him back, he says it only nicked the muscle, but I'm sure he lost a lot of muscle strength in his leg over the time he was recovering.
He's a big body, good on the face off, good in front of the net, excellent work along the boards, I always notice him when he is on the ice. I'm pretty excited for his future actually.
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05-17-2010, 06:09 PM
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IMO, Neimiez can work out a career similar to Troy Browuer which I dont have a problem with.
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05-17-2010, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by united
I think Nemisz could develop into a Mike Knuble type guy based on very limited viewing of him. Can anyone who has watched him more than 15 times in the OHL this season comment on that?
Remember you wrote off Backlund ever achieving an 80 point season.
You're right, at this point we don't know.
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If Nemisz could become another Mike Knuble I would be ecstatic. 20+ goal scorer.
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05-17-2010, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by united
I think Nemisz could develop into a Mike Knuble type guy based on very limited viewing of him. Can anyone who has watched him more than 15 times in the OHL this season comment on that?
Remember you wrote off Backlund ever achieving an 80 point season.
You're right, at this point we don't know.
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I would much rather have people say that "he" can be like Nemisz instead of how Nemisz can be like ________.
I think that he's a different player all together than anyone in the NHL, but that's just my opinion
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