So if it's true and there really is no shared plan, which it seems like it was just an error, that really sucks. They want me to pay more money for less data :\
I'm going to try out that mywi app and see if I can get it to work.
Bad news (potentially) about the $20 to add iPad to your existing plan.
RogersMary says: May 10, 2010 at 11:31 am
It’s great to see everyone so excited!
Many of you have asked about the shared data plan listed on the Apple website. This reference was an error and is being removed
If that is true then it kills any chance of me getting an iPad anytime soon.
Without (affordable) 3G it becomes a less useful replacement for my laptop, which still works fine. I refuse to sign up for a separate plan for an iPad when I don't even come close to using the data I have now on my phone.
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If that is true then it kills any chance of me getting an iPad anytime soon.
Without (affordable) 3G it becomes a less useful replacement for my laptop, which still works fine. I refuse to sign up for a separate plan for an iPad when I don't even come close to using the data I have now on my phone.
Ya I'm pretty disappointed, but it's certainly not a deal breaker. I expected something similar to what the Americans were getting and that's what we get. For my usage the $35 purchase would be basically unlimited, while I'm pretty confident the $15 plan will cover me just fine. I'd like to look into usage stats of Americans on 3g to see if it eats up more bandwidth than the phone.
I'll use mywi if things get hairy, but once 4.0 rolls around I'm going to update which should eliminate my jailbreak.
Ya I'm pretty disappointed, but it's certainly not a deal breaker. I expected something similar to what the Americans were getting and that's what we get. For my usage the $35 purchase would be basically unlimited, while I'm pretty confident the $15 plan will cover me just fine. I'd like to look into usage stats of Americans on 3g to see if it eats up more bandwidth than the phone.
I'll use mywi if things get hairy, but once 4.0 rolls around I'm going to update which should eliminate my jailbreak.
I am borderline enough that it wouldn't have taken much to push me off until data rates come down or other tablet options become available. Of course on the other side of the coin, if that Clamshell case is as good/useful as it seems I will probably be much more willing to fork out for a non 3G model.
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Without the ability to share my existing 6GB data plan, coupled with the fact that the iPad is a no-contract device... I'm going to wait to see what Telus offers. I will literally go out of my way (even pay a higher rate) to purposefully make sure Rogers doesn't get another dime out of me than what I already give them.
I would have been all over that $20/month addon charge to have my iPad use my existing iPhone data plan. Now it's just the principle of the whole thing.
if that Clamshell case is as good/useful as it seems I will probably be much more willing to fork out for a non 3G model.
Speaking of which, the video ad for it that I posted was taken off YouTube by Marvel. It had an "Iron Man 2" poster on the iPad in one of the screenshots.
They have a new video up, where they use Engadget instead of Iron Man 2.
I miss the ACDC from the first video though. This new song isn't nearly as awesome.
Yeah, when it comes to cash-cowing, they're all pretty much the same. Telus does have better rural coverage, though, so I don't mind waiting to find out their prices. I would have gone with Rogers had they allowed data sharing, but not now.
I'm paying for 6GB of data every month and using maybe 200MB at the most. I would have happily paid $20/month to share that data with my iPad.
Yeah, when it comes to cash-cowing, they're all pretty much the same. Telus does have better rural coverage, though, so I don't mind waiting to find out their prices. I would have gone with Rogers had they allowed data sharing, but not now.
I'm paying for 6GB of data every month and using maybe 200MB at the most. I would have happily paid $20/month to share that data with my iPad.
I would be interested to see how much data the average iPad user goes through in a month. It's so much better for using the web than the iPhone that people will undoubtedly use more data then they would on the iPhone. 250MB might cutting it close for people, especially if you are streaming video.
I thought the data plans for England (or wherever) were tempting as they offered daily and weekly plans. That is a fantastic idea. You may not be someone who uses data all the time but if you were at an airport or stuck somewhere away from WiFi and wanted data just for the day you could get it. Something like that would be of interest to me.
Unless WiFi is a lot more available in Canada than it is here, I think a lot of you will be surprised how much data iPads can go through. I'm curious what the 3G version of the ABC app (not that it matters for you guys) uses per minute of streaming video.
Fastest to Slowest:
1. Griffin's PowerBlock iPad charger
2. iPad standard charger
3. iPhone standard power adaptor
4. USB to MacBook
Quote:
We took the four most common ways to charge an iPad: The iPad's standard 10W charger, Griffin's PowerBlock iPad charger, the iPhone's standard power adapter, and via a MacBook Pro's USB port. We timed how long it took to bring the battery up to 80%, which is the standard baseline for a "quick" charge. That last 20% goes very slowly to preserve battery life, so doing total time wouldn't give a fair indication of the charging method.
The PowerBlock proved to be very slightly faster than the standard iPad 10W power adapter, getting us to 80% after just 2 hours and 30 minutes of charging, but it's sharply downhill (or rather, uphill) from there. While that doesn't mean you should toss your iPad adapter and buy a Griffin straight away, it does mean that if you need a spare or a replacement charger, you could skip the Apple-branded one, and hunt down a PowerBlock, preferably on sale for less than the $30 list price.
The poor performance of the MacBook Pro USB jack teaches us another thing: Direct juicing is better, if given a choice.
One last thing about iPad battery management: It's worth taking a peek at Apple's recommendations for optimal iPad battery lifespan. Of note, you ought to take your iPad through a full recharge cycle once a month. That means running it down completely, then charging it to 100 percent.
Haha. Yeah I think one of the junior editors at Engaget got plastered last week and lost their iPad Charging article in a Ukranian bar. Someone found it and then Gizmodo swept in and bought it for $50. Now they've published the article in the name of investigative journalism.
Engaget will send out a letter later to demand the return of their article. They may even have someone's home searched for copies if it.
This is all very surprising, though, since everybody knows the secrecy Engaget surrounds their articles with. The article being lost in the first place is really the big news here.
Yea.. yea... I know this one's about the iPhone and this is the iPad thread but who cares, the platform doesn't matter - this could have been done on any number of platforms. It's neat to see stuff like this happen:
Ever since his daughter was born with cerebral palsy, Martin Brooks has wished there were an easy way to communicate with her.
For years he and his wife have struggled to understand Mia's needs by getting her to look at objects or picture cards.
But after buying an iPhone last year, Mr Brooks had an epiphany. Remembering Apple's adverts that there are 'apps for everything', he decided to put the claim to the test.
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Man I can't get over this oligopoly of wireless providers. If you have a 6gb data plan it should be device neutral. You're paying for bits, 6gb of bits. What a freaking joke that they are trying to charge you based on the device.
And then the real kick in the balls is that they take away the $20 fee that shouldn't even be there in the first place and make it even more expensive.
Wireless industry needs to move to a utility style business model. Bits, electricity, water, are non-differentiable between providers. Pay per use is the model, not this arcane method raising average revenue per user that the industry is currently dependent on.
That's what wireless providers have been fighting against since forever.. they want to own their deck and be able to differentiate themselves from the competition to get subscribers, and be able to do the deck shuffle to make money.
Their greatest fear was that they all just become a pipeline provider and can compete only on the basis of price per minute or price per bit.
There are some reasons for it though, adding capacity to wireless with current technology isn't trivial and I'm sure some of what they do revolves around that. It's not like with Internet to your house where if you want to add a second computer you just put in a switch and add the second computer and both draw from the same link, it's closer to having to run a whole new drop from the CO to your house. There's only so many open connections the cell can deal with so adding a 2nd device on the same pool isn't so much about the number of bits it's more about how many connections can be serviced at the same time.
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Don't disagree with anything you said their Photon.
However capacity issues face utilities all the time as well. They are regulated to provide service with an acceptable revenue structure but capacity based pricing can get around the issues. That would of course require a significant overhaul of our current wireless industry. It will inevitably get there as more and more people use wireless services.
