Girls win right to play on boys' teams

[Shazam]

I'm still fighting for the right for men to be able to change in the women's change room.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Boooooooooo!!!

Chicks should stay with chick sports.........

[Hemi-Cuda]

while i doubt we'll ever see a woman make it in the NHL on forward or defense, i think it's only a matter of time until there's another female goaltender that makes the jump and becomes more than just a token pre-season headline grabber. i'm sure some of the best female goaltenders in the world could do at least as well as some of the career backups like Weekes or Noodles

[Drury18]

I'm not sure how this is new news. I was trying out and playing on boys teams for 16 years. And not due to whining or screaming about women's rights or that stuff. I tried out like anyone else and made the team consistantly. Had I not made a team, I would have gone back to women's hockey. Not filed a suit saying they team was unfair to pick a more experienced or skilled player over me.

On the topic of men being able to treat women like anyone else on the ice, I am in 100% agreement. There should not be any special rules for women and while its nice to see that there are still some guys in this world who were brought up like men and not to be physical towards women, I think on the ice or field all bets are off. Personally, I would keep my mask on from the time I walked out of the room to the final handshake. I didn't make it well known I was a girl and neither did my teammates because it would ruin the game or the win if we thought they went easy because of a chick in net.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by SebC

Equal would be everyone playing in the same league, "different but equal" would have seperate but equal leagues for men and women. Having women able to play in men's and women's leagues but barring men from women's leagues discriminates against men.

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

That is bullcrap.

Let's say a 13 year old female hockey player believes that she has what it takes to make the NHL. As is commonplace for hockey, the girls team in the area is very weak compared to the boys team. She would not be able to develop her skills to the point where she could compete at the highest levels of her game. I would not call a system where a poor male player has a better chance of developing than a great female player a fair and equitable system.

If we really want equality on all sides, areas should have a girls house league, a boys house league and a UNISEX competitive league. It's not right to exclude people from playing in the best leagues based on gender than it was to exclude black baseball players before Jackie Robinson. If you are good enough to play on the best team, then you are good enough to play on the best team. Period. End of story.

BTW - that door does swing both ways.... if the girl's softball team just happens to be better than the boy's team, then in THAT case, I think a boy, should he so wish to do so, should be able to compete for THAT team. But I think that would rarely be the case.

Since you're pretty much saying what I'm saying, why is what I said "bullcrap"?

IMO there are two options that make logical sense:

- Unisex leagues: equality in the strictest sense. You can bet most women wouldn't like this option though, as it would basically shut women out of competitive sports.
- Segregated leagues: if men and women are equal (but different), then one league is not "superior" to the other, so there's not need for a woman to play in a man's league (or vice-versa).

I don't see how you can have women in men's leagues but not vice-versa without implicitly recognizing men's leagues as better. And if that's the case, then stuff like equal prize money for men and women in tennis doesn't make sense anymore (which some see as necessary for gender equality).

If you're making a race analogy though, having women's leagues that exclude men whilst allowing women into men's leagues is like having all-white league that excludes blacks. The good white players can play in the NBA, while the rest don't have to compete with the blacks, who have an inherent advantage in basketball because white men can't jump.

[ynwa03]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

while i doubt we'll ever see a woman make it in the NHL on forward or defense, i think it's only a matter of time until there's another female goaltender that makes the jump and becomes more than just a token pre-season headline grabber. i'm sure some of the best female goaltenders in the world could do at least as well as some of the career backups like Weekes or Noodles

I HIGHLY doubt that. Just because Noodles and Weekes were backups doesn't mean they were not professional calibre goalies. From the womens hockey i've watched, NO goaltender is even remotely close to playing in a regular season NHL game without giving up 12 goals.

[Kybosh]

How does all this affect the disgusting hazing that takes place in men's hockey/rugby/football? If women want equal rights, are they really ready for that?

[chid]

Women do some nasty hazing to eachother in sports too, I heard some stories of the girl's hockey team at my highschool. I'm sure they'd be "ready" for that.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Does that mean its ok to give a girl the old Gordie Atomic elbow and I won't be crapped on for hitting a girl.

I'm fine with the fact that girls can play in boys competitive leagues, but men (good men) are wired not to hit or abuse girls, but in hockey or football a boy is going to be universally destroyed for taking a run at pretty little Sally Smith.

Ive seen this happen twice... Once in football, when our 250 lb starting middle linebacker caught 'Sally Smith' with her head down cutting across the middle... and then continued to stand over her and let her know where she could go and what she could fondle while she was there... The funniest part is it was one of theose girls with the semi-short hairmtucked into her helmet... so you couldnt really tell until she was carried off on a stretcher and neck brace crying... Hilarious

the other time was hockey, whena girl got Phaneufed by the biggest defenseman on the team and was bleeding on the ice, followed up by a line brawl...

Morale of the story... Girls should be forced to wear their long hair outside of their helmets as a gentle reminder

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by chid

Women do some nasty hazing to eachother in sports too, I heard some stories of the girl's hockey team at my highschool. I'm sure they'd be "ready" for that.

want to hear

[Huntingwhale]

[Swarly]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Ive seen this happen twice... Once in football, when our 250 lb starting middle linebacker caught 'Sally Smith' with her head down cutting across the middle... and then continued to stand over her and let her know where she could go and what she could fondle while she was there... The funniest part is it was one of theose girls with the semi-short hairmtucked into her helmet... so you couldnt really tell until she was carried off on a stretcher and neck brace crying... Hilarious

the other time was hockey, whena girl got Phaneufed by the biggest defenseman on the team and was bleeding on the ice, followed up by a line brawl...

Morale of the story... Girls should be forced to wear their long hair outside of their helmets as a gentle reminder

A gentle reminder to not play as hard against the opposing team? because they have a chick playing their team is weaker so they shouldn't try?

No need for a gentle reminder, IMO if she wants to play she can get hit like everyone else. She shouldn't get special treatment, if she is going to get too hurt playing with the guys then there is a girls league right over there.