The Atlantic: Did Porn Cause the Financial Crisis?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Well, #1, they did get caught. Otherwise this thread would not exist.

And #2, I have not done the Google search yet, but I'll wager $5 that I can find links showing private companies having employees surfing for porn.

Ignoring your responsibilities for, uh, personal gratification, is not just a "government issue".

Although not surfing for porn, just surfing the web and wasting time rather than doing your job is a huge workplace issue. I saw a poll last week where 75% of people admit to surfing the web when they are supposed to be working!!

True. But private companies that give a damn about what they're doing are surely going to catch excessive use like this. I worked with a small company here in town that let someone go because she was watching porn on a company computer.

We're not talking about a one-time thing. We're talking about something that was clearly an addiction.

Even if he sought ways around it, you could still catch them. There are ways to block programs like Hotspot Shield and Tor, and there are firewalls that monitor everything that happens on the network. If someone in IT was paying attention they would have easily caught these employees.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Azure

True. But private companies that give a damn about what they're doing are surely going to catch excessive use like this. I worked with a small company here in town that let someone go because she was watching porn on a company computer.

We're not talking about a one-time thing. We're talking about something that was clearly an addiction.

Even if he sought ways around it, you could still catch them. There are ways to block programs like Hotspot Shield and Tor, and there are firewalls that monitor everything that happens on the network. If someone in IT was paying attention they would have easily caught these employees.

They were caught.

I promise you, despite all reasonable measures taken by a company and thier IT department, if I wanted to get porn on the internet during work I could probably do it have a good chance of not being caught unless there was literally a person checking the logs on every single connection entering and leaving the firewall. If a company if really dedicated to stopping all access and is willing to fork out the money to do so then it is possible, but doing it from an IT perspective and not a HR/managment perspective is not very inteligent or cost effective.

That said, I don't see why you would want porn at work. Like pumping up the bike tire but not being able to ride the bike!

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Rathji

They were caught.

I promise you, despite all reasonable measures taken by a company and thier IT department, if I wanted to get porn on the internet during work I could probably do it have a good chance of not being caught unless there was literally a person checking the logs on every single connection entering and leaving the firewall. If a company if really dedicated to stopping all access and is willing to fork out the money to do so then it is possible, but doing it from an IT perspective and not a HR/managment perspective is not very inteligent or cost effective.

That said, I don't see why you would want porn at work. Like pumping up the bike tire but not being able to ride the bike!

I realize that. And for someone that does it discreetly, chances are he won't be caught.

But this wasn't discreet.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Azure

I realize that. And for someone that does it discreetly, chances are he won't be caught.

But this wasn't discreet.

How do you know? You've reviewed the logs? You know what techniques they used to get around the firewalls?

[Locke]

Porn has caused society a lot of problems, but I think blaming it for the American economy crumbling like Joe Thornton under pressure seems a bit of a stretch...

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

Who can rub one out with just pictures, do they hire 12 yo to work at the SEC? Let me guess they also rent Pb softcore videos.

There needs to be video and audio minimum.

What about your:
???

[Azure]

Originally Posted by valo403

How do you know? You've reviewed the logs? You know what techniques they used to get around the firewalls?

You're telling me he looked at porn for 8 hours per day and nobody found out?

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by Azure

You're telling me he looked at porn for 8 hours per day and nobody found out?

I don't get it. A lot of people have pointed out this in the thread:

a) well, he/they did get caught; and
b) despite what you are saying, it is apparently possible to hide looking looking for porn at work without getting caught for a fair bit of time.

Am I missing something?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Azure

You're telling me he looked at porn for 8 hours per day and nobody found out?

Of course not, because the whole point of this article is that THEY DID FIND OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're telling me that you know how they avoided the firewalls? You know how easy it could have been to catch them earlier? It sure sounds like you have a lot of familiarity with this, which is weird because you haven't shown any reason to believe any of your claims.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

I don't get it. A lot of people have pointed out this in the thread:

a) well, he/they did get caught; and
b) despite what you are saying, it is apparently possible to hide looking looking for porn at work without getting caught for a fair bit of time.

Am I missing something?

The article mentions that one of the employees was blocked more than 16,000 times in one month from accessing porn, but still managed to get around it.

I mean, how many thousands of website hits need to show up in the logs before you fire the guy?

Also, when someone watches 8 hours of porn per day and even starts burning it to cds and dvds and he isn't fired or at least told to stop within a week, either whoever runs the place is a moron, nobody noticed, or nobody cared.

But no, neither of those employees were let go. They resigned now after they've been exposed. Which is why I'm asking if someone actually caught them. Sure, everything was traced, but did anyone do anything about it?

Seems like they didn't. Unless you actually think that someone can manage to watch 8 hours of porn per day and nobody catches him.

This has been going on for 5 years.

Not a couple days or even months. 5 years.

Exactly why I'm saying that either nobody that could do something about it found out, or nobody cared.

They needed a probe and investigation to actually expose these people and get rid of them.

Certainly that indicates that nobody found out about this while it was happening. I'll give the morons at the SEC the benefit of the doubt and say the higher ups would have done something about their employees watching porn for 8 hours per day if they KNEW about it.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by valo403

Of course not, because the whole point of this article is that THEY DID FIND OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're telling me that you know how they avoided the firewalls? You know how easy it could have been to catch them earlier? It sure sounds like you have a lot of familiarity with this, which is weird because you haven't shown any reason to believe any of your claims.

They found out and exposed the guy after this investigation was completed.

Which means that SEC IT people are a bunch of idiots, or they knew about it.....well at least the logs knew about it....

_ An accountant was blocked more than 16,000 times in a month from visiting websites classified as "Sex" or "Pornography."

....and nobody bothered to check or report them.

Because that accountant was suspended when he refused to testify in his defense.

EDIT: Go read other articles about this.

Apparently some guys were uploading their OWN porn onto websites, one other tried to access porn 1800 times in a two week period, others had over 600 porn images on government computers. One guy had a thumb drive connected to his government computer with hardcore porn on it.

Nevermind the security problems with that considering how easy it is for hackers to use images and videos to take control of your computer. One would think that the government would at least have the proper measures in place to prohibit security violations like that even if they can't stop people from watching porn.

Second EDIT: The official report also said that the problem began in 2008, and still hasn't stopped.

The report concluded that most of the cases began in 2008, just as the financial system began to collapse, and the problem hasn't stopped.

Yep, really catching them.