Survivor Heroes vs Villains Pool

[csnarpy]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

I also loved Russell telling Rob that he wanted Courtney or Sandra gone next, 3 feet from them

That was the best part in that episode. I fell over laughing at his comment and then rob's disbelief at what had just been said.

The other really good part was the "showdown of words" between Rob and Russell at Tribal Counsel. Rob tried to get the edge on Russell but IMO was put in his place.

Overall, it's too bad Rob is gone. I really wanted him and Russell to make it to the top three.

As for next time they reach TC, i bet Coach is gone since he's so wishy washy.

[looooob]

yeah sad to see Rob go

I like to see the strong players last, and it was kinda unfortunate that the two alphadogs butted heads too hard this soon. I think they are both great players

[CaptainCrunch]

Coach is clearly ######ed, for all of his bs out his word I find it funny that he basically gave his word to both sides. I loved the fact that Rob called him out on it after the vote. He's right, Coach is a little man. And he will probably be pulled as far as he can get by Russell, because Coach is even more unsavory to the jury then Russell is. I had hoped that Rob would get to the jury. But the show got a little less interesting with this blind side. The Villian tribe has been gutted of all threats to Russell now except for Pavarti or whatever her name is. Nobody else is capable of making a strategic thought let alone being able to win a contest.

But its important for the Villains to bring across as many people to the merge as possible, but I don't know if thats possible with the villian's tribes being made up of half wits and weaklings.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Coach is clearly ######ed, for all of his bs out his word I find it funny that he basically gave his word to both sides. I loved the fact that Rob called him out on it after the vote. He's right, Coach is a little man. And he will probably be pulled as far as he can get by Russell, because Coach is even more unsavory to the jury then Russell is. I had hoped that Rob would get to the jury. But the show got a little less interesting with this blind side. The Villian tribe has been gutted of all threats to Russell now except for Pavarti or whatever her name is. Nobody else is capable of making a strategic thought let alone being able to win a contest.

But its important for the Villains to bring across as many people to the merge as possible, but I don't know if thats possible with the villian's tribes being made up of half wits and weaklings.

I thought it would be a bit more uneventful without rob there, but from the preview of next episode, it seems like things are really disintegrating without his presence.

I bet coach feels like junk for what Rob said to him and probably blames Russell for 'bullying' him into that vote.

I also think things will get more and more fractured as they continue to lose challenges. I think the next reward challenge is going to be awesome, and the Villains will lose it.

[d_phaneuf]

I think Coach is gone next as well, Russell will not want wishy washy people like Coach around

he has a core 4 people with Jerri, Pavarti and Danielle

They might also not want to risk Coach teaming up with JT again, he loves JT

[Rhettzky]

I don't know, I can't see them voting Coach out before that chick that wouldn't jump off the rope ladder in the last challenge. They really need strength now after voting Rob out and I can see them picking off the weak until Russel, Pavarti, Danielle, Coach and Jerri are all that are left.

[GreenLantern]

The inherent flaw in Russell's game is that he can never win with it.

He could get to the top 2 in any season playing the way he does granted they haven't seen him play before, but he will never be able to get more votes than anyone who sits beside him. He burns every bridge to get to where he wants to be and insults everyone he votes out along the way.

The villains will be lucky if they get half their members to the merge now, Rob carried them through every challenge. I loved when he said at the end "All I did was put them on my shoulders and carry them, this is the thanks I get" *shrug*

And it is so true, these idiots didn't think it through. If you have the numbers there is no hurry to get rid of him, pick off one of his weaklings, let Rob carry you another 5 immunity challenges, then vote him off.

I think Russell played this wrong and it will bite him in the ass.

Coach is such a plug, lol.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

And it is so true, these idiots didn't think it through. If you have the numbers there is no hurry to get rid of him, pick off one of his weaklings, let Rob carry you another 5 immunity challenges, then vote him off.

I think Russell played this wrong and it will bite him in the ass.

Disagree they didn't need Rob to win them challenges anymore. Typically the merge happens at 10, so worst case scenario, it's tied 5 to 5, yeah he could have voted out one of Robs alliance instead, but Rob is in the only one in that alliance to possibly pull Jerry and Coach back to that side, as it stands now Russell has basically no challenge to him for control over the villians. Worst case scenario Russell makes the merge with even numbers, if they happen to win 1 of the next 2 immunity challenges, Russells got a spot in the top 4 locked up. I think getting rid of Rob was a perfectly acceptable move at this point.

Additionally even if they make it 5 v 5, I could see colby flipping because he's on the outs with his tribe.

[GreenLantern]

Actually I would reverse that sister.

If there are 5 left that means it will most likely be Russell, Parvati, Danielle, Coach and Jerry. Coach is very loyal *laughs* and obviously so is Jerry *laughs*.

Guaranteed one of them flops to the heroes side, both of which think of themselves as heroes and have said already, in some cases multiple times, they aren't cut out to be villains!

If one flops to the Heroes, it is lights out for Russell's crew of merry sluts. Sorry let me re phrase that, WHEN one flops over.

Either way Russell is screwed, if they go in undefeated Sandra and Skinny blond are still going to flop to the heroes.

He has to basically win every immunity challenge from the merge onward to survive. And JT is very, very good at individual immunity.


Sandra and skinny blond say hey 3 doods from heroes, were on the outs here, lets team up and force rocks, oh wait here comes Coach because he is super loyal to everyone. There are many factors working against Russell right now, like I said even if he makes it to the end he had to back stab and mistreat every single person along the way to get there. He just can't win this game and that is what frustrates him the most, he knows he has what it takes to last, but he knows he can never get the votes.

[albertGQ]

If Russell wins the final immunity challenge, he'll win the game. If he loses it, then he'll be third. There is no way anyone takes him to the final two. I know he lost head-to-head last season, but there is no way these castaways would not vote for the King of Survivor!

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Actually I would reverse that sister.

If there are 5 left that means it will most likely be Russell, Parvati, Danielle, Coach and Jerry. Coach is very loyal *laughs* and obviously so is Jerry *laughs*.

Guaranteed one of them flops to the heroes side, both of which think of themselves as heroes and have said already, in some cases multiple times, they aren't cut out to be villains!

I totally agree that Coach and Jerry are extremely easy to manipulate and not loyal at all. The problem lies in the fact that the heros don't have anyone who can manipulate them like Russell can, thus I don't see your scenario unfolding.

[d_phaneuf]

Dono if that was a smart move

Although if what the previews insinuated for next week is true, wow Jt... wow

[GreenLantern]

It is pretty funny, right now I am watching last season a few episodes a week when I have time to see how Russell played his game. On that season I am cheering hard for him, I want him to take out Dave and Laura and all those bitches, I know he makes final two because of this thread (not blaming anyone it is my own fault) but I still don't know who he goes there with and who ultimately wins. So please don't say it in here, unless you hate me.

If it has already been said I have missed it

Anyway in that show I am cheering so hard for him to win, and in this season I am cheering so hard against him

Those damn idols though man alive that guy is an idol master, it makes me curious though if they HAVE seen this season yet because Rob was placing a lot of emphasis on the idols in his confessions... for only having seen one idol, almost like he knew what had happened in the previous season.

But I see a lot of the same mistakes being made by Russell this season that he made last season, burning all of these bridges along the way to get to the final two and most likely why he doesn't win.. right now he has four people on the jury that would vote for ANYONE else over him... that isn't a good start.

[CaptainCrunch]

Another really good episode where JT hands Russell his tribes hidden immunity idol, and Russell promptly thanks him by screwing him over.

Looks like the merge next week, this games about to go off the hizzel.

[d_phaneuf]

Its actually not that dumb of a move in theory, if there actually was a womens alliance and he saved Russell it would go down as one of the best moves ever. But it was a risk that they didn't really need to take, they would have gone in 5-5 with an idol and as it stands it looks like its gonna blow up in his face.

great season so far though, hope it keeps up this way

[GreenLantern]

Interesting move, I like in the preview for next weeks episode when Jt says "Is that Parvarti?!?!" as they are walking up to merge.. poor JT.

If Sandra spills the beans and spreads doubt the Heroes would be smart to do it this way, Tell Russell to vote Parvarti, thats who they want off, Russell goes to Parvarti says play the immunity idol we are voting JT off.

So now the Heroes have Russell thinking ok Parvarti, then they vote for Danielle. This works out because in their mind, they don't need Russell's vote, they just need it to NOT go with the 4 girls. So if he throws his vote away on Parvarti, and the rest of them blind side Danielle, boom she goes home. Now if Russell is back stabbing them and Sandra is on their side, they tell her Russell. Now they have the villains not knowing who the frick they are going to vote for, and can still blind side Danielle.

It is very easy for me to say this from my outside looking in angle, but you COULD see this and COULD do this from the heroes stand point IF both Russell and Sandra come up playing different stories. Splitting votes is a strategy as old as hidden immunity idols.. either way if they play it smart they shouldn't have to pick rocks.

Something tells me though that a hero is going home next episode, most likely JT. Then that tribe will just wilt away.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

If I'm not mistaken, nobody knows about Pavarti's idol except for her and Danielle, correct? She's probably going to have to let Russell in on the secret sooner than later. Depending on how bleak things are looking at the merge they may have to play both idols in one night.

Jeri is a wild card as well, I could see her flip at any time, but if she stays with Russell and co. she may be able to pretend she's going to flop and get some inside info from someone like Colby.

[CaptainCrunch]

Jerry is playing a pretty awesome social game so far. Far different from the last time we saw her.

Right now Pavarti and Russell have a huge leg up on anyone else, and they have emerged as the two biggest players in this game.

[loob job]

I gotta say, i love this season, not only is it fun to watch the back and forths but the bodies on these women are amazing.

[CaptainCrunch]

Its amazing what a sub par diet will do.

I bet the Villians had some problems once those steaks hit their lower intestines.