04-10-2010, 08:24 PM
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#101
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Airdrie, Alberta
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Originally Posted by narbeZ
How do you know he is a he?
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Because if he was a she they would have made her blow
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04-10-2010, 08:26 PM
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#102
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sec 216
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
When you use alcohol in cooking, the alcohol is boiled off. You can't get drunk by eating pasta with any type of wine sauce.
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All of the alcohol? Every last drop?
Plus, that is my whole point. It is one thing to claim that any amount of alcohol (even just a sip) impairs a persons judgment. Theoretically I'm sure that on some level that is true. Even just a single drop of alcohol might cause a microscopic level of impairment. It might only last for 2 minutes though.
Let's be realistic here though. We are talking about enough alcohol to impair a persons driving. 99.9% of the population will be 100% sober if they consume a drop of alcohol.
For all intents and purposes there is absolutely no driving impairment for most people if they have one or two drinks.
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04-10-2010, 08:26 PM
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#103
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by narbeZ
One way to get out of this if your being dumb in the future, is to NEVER admit to drinking ANYTHING. As soon as you admit to having something to drink, the cop WILL undoubtedly HAVE to test you.
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If you listen to this, you will NEVER get a break given to you. Whether you admit to drinking or not, the Police know. It has a distinct odour and has an effect on the movement in your eyes.
If you lie, you will be tested. No breaks. You fail = Jail. You pass the ASD with anything other than 0.00 = 24 hrs suspension under S.89 of the TSA.
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04-10-2010, 08:32 PM
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#104
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sec 216
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Originally Posted by hockeycop
If you listen to this, you will NEVER get a break given to you. Whether you admit to drinking or not, the Police know. It has a distinct odour and has an effect on the movement in your eyes.
If you lie, you will be tested. No breaks. You fail = Jail. You pass the ASD with anything other than 0.00 = 24 hrs suspension under S.89 of the TSA.
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What are the repercussions of such a suspension? I imagine it will stay on your driving record right? Do you get demerits? A fine? Nothing but the 24hr suspension?
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04-10-2010, 08:34 PM
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#105
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Lifetime Suspension
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Hockeycop. The officers never gave
me a machine to blow into. They just said I smelt like booze. So after 30 days i'm good to go. Will this make my insurance skyrocket?
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04-10-2010, 08:34 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by flip
All of the alcohol? Every last drop?
Plus, that is my whole point. It is one thing to claim that any amount of alcohol (even just a sip) impairs a persons judgment. Theoretically I'm sure that on some level that is true. Even just a single drop of alcohol might cause a microscopic level of impairment. It might only last for 2 minutes though.
Let's be realistic here though. We are talking about enough alcohol to impair a persons driving. 99.9% of the population will be 100% sober if they consume a drop of alcohol.
For all intents and purposes there is absolutely no driving impairment for most people if they have one or two drinks.
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You can argue this until you're blue in the face (and I don't doubt you will), but the bottom line is that the original poster knew he had a GDL, and he drove after drinking anyways. It doesn't matter what his level of impairment was. He broke the rules that he knew about, period.
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04-10-2010, 08:37 PM
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#107
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
You can argue this until you're blue in the face (and I don't doubt you will), but the bottom line is that the original poster knew he had a GDL, and he drove after drinking anyways. It doesn't matter what his level of impairment was. He broke the rules that he knew about, period.
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Um, what? Who was arguing about the OP? I wasn't. Most of my posts have been about drinking and driving in general and stem from another poster asking why I said drinking and driving was legal.
No one argued about whether or not his level of impairment mattered.
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04-10-2010, 08:37 PM
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#108
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Crash and Bang Winger
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24 hr suspension is just that. It will be listed in the Police Service's database, but doesn't go to insurance etc. Car gets towed and impounded which can be expensive.
If you had 1-3 beer at the game over a 3 hr period and go through a checkstop or get pulled for speeding or something and you lie to the cop, he/she is going to take you to task (Put your lips on the straw and blow until I tell you to stop... "clicking sound"... 0.01, going to suspend your DL for 24 hrs and impound your vehicle). If you tell him/her what you drank over what period, he/she will likely make a judgement call ("3 beers in 3 hours = Probably a 0.01 if that") and cut you lose.
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04-10-2010, 08:39 PM
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#109
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by flip
The level of ###### and holier than thou aholes is higher than normal in this thread, even for CP.
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Yeah, you're right. We should just all laugh it off. "Oh, you dodged an impaired driving charge. Way to go!!!!
There is a ###### or two here but the posters who don't want a drunken ass out on the roads are not the ######s.
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04-10-2010, 08:40 PM
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#110
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by hockeycop
If you had 1-3 beer at the game over a 3 hr period and go through a checkstop or get pulled for speeding or something and you lie to the cop, he/she is going to take you to task (Put your lips on the straw and blow until I tell you to stop... "clicking sound"... 0.01, going to suspend your DL for 24 hrs and impound your vehicle). If you tell him/her what you drank over what period, he/she will likely make a judgement call ("3 beers in 3 hours = Probably a 0.01 if that") and cut you lose.
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Most likely if you had 3 beers over three hours the cops would have no idea.
Cops are dumb and don't care about stopping drinking and driving so unless you force them to arrest you most likely if you go through a check stop tell them you had nothing and they will wave you through so they don't have to worry about paperwork/court.
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04-10-2010, 08:40 PM
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#111
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by longsuffering
Yeah, you're right. We should just all laugh it off. "Oh, you dodged an impaired driving charge. Way to go!!!!
There is a ###### or two here but the posters who don't want a drunken ass out on the roads are not the ######s.
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How did he "dodge an impaired driving charge"? Do you know more about this case than we do?
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04-10-2010, 08:41 PM
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#112
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Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by longsuffering
Yeah, you're right. We should just all laugh it off. "Oh, you dodged an impaired driving charge. Way to go!!!!
There is a ###### or two here but the posters who don't want a drunken ass out on the roads are not the ######s.
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Who said he was drunk?
And he didn't dodge any charge at all, he was given the appropriate punishment based on the information provided.
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04-10-2010, 08:41 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by moon
Most likely if you had 3 beers over three hours the cops would have no idea.
Cops are dumb and don't care about stopping drinking and driving so unless you force them to arrest you most likely if you go through a check stop tell them you had nothing and they will wave you through so they don't have to worry about paperwork/court.
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Post of the week on CP.
And because I didn't use green text...post of the week = one of the stupidest things I've ever read on CP.
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04-10-2010, 08:42 PM
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#114
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by flameswin
This guy doesn't sound like he was a danger at all, it just sounds like that new GDL system is pretty harsh. I'm glad that wasn't around when I was younger.
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Are you really that dense? This is not a 'no harm, no foul' case. You're alcohol addled brain can't make the leap in logic from "This guy doesn't sound like he was a danger at all" to "They got this idiot off the road BEFORE he killed anyone."
I can't believe anyone would defend drinking and driving in any context.
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04-10-2010, 08:44 PM
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#115
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sec 216
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Originally Posted by longsuffering
Yeah, you're right. We should just all laugh it off. "Oh, you dodged an impaired driving charge. Way to go!!!!
There is a ###### or two here but the posters who don't want a drunken ass out on the roads are not the ######s.
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And you just completely proved my point.
You are willfully ignorant of the FACTS of this thread and just want to come in here and make some total assumption about the OP and how he is a drunken degenerate.
THe OP didn't dodge a DUI. He got a 30 day suspension. It is not the same thing. He got his license revoked for 30 days because he is on GDL. THat means he can't drink and drive AT ALL. Not like most of us who can drink and drive, we just can't be impaired.
At no point did the OP give any indication that he was drunk. Plus if he was drunk he'd probably have gotten a DUI (unless you're like moon and think cops are slackers). He didn't so we can likely assume he wasn't drunk.
You seem to imply that anyone in this thread is condoning driving while impaired. I've read every single post in this thread and not a single person made that claim.
Several people incorrectly assumed that anyone who drives after having consumed alcohol is a drunken buffoon endangering all of our lives (and the lives of our wives and children) but that was just a few posters.
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04-10-2010, 08:46 PM
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#116
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by hockeycop
If you listen to this, you will NEVER get a break given to you. Whether you admit to drinking or not, the Police know. It has a distinct odour and has an effect on the movement in your eyes.
If you lie, you will be tested. No breaks. You fail = Jail. You pass the ASD with anything other than 0.00 = 24 hrs suspension under S.89 of the TSA.
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I've heard from many people that swear by saying you've had nothing. I have one buddy who is pretty bad for drinking and driving (spare the insults, I'm not passing them on to him  ), and he said he's twice gone through a checkstop and said he had nothing, and got let go.
I called BS, but I was with him awhile ago when he had a few, and we hit a checkstop, and sure as ****, cop says "Have you had anything to drink?". He just made sure not to talk/breathe into the cops face and said "nothing". The cop looked a little suspicious, and stared at him for a couple of seconds, and just "okay, have a good night". So who knows.
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04-10-2010, 08:47 PM
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#117
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by thesmugger
Hockeycop. The officers never gave
me a machine to blow into. They just said I smelt like booze. So after 30 days i'm good to go. Will this make my insurance skyrocket?
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After 30 days, take the bus (or have someone drive you) to the District Office, speak with the desk Cst or Volunteer and explain the situation to them. You will then get your licence back (along with a dirty look).
As it is not a criminal or TSA "charge" (ie: no court option, no guilty plea, etc), it should not effect your insurance.
Nobody is perfect. People make mistakes. Good people take those life lessons and apply them to future actions. I don't drive with ANY alcohol in my system, period... But I have (no collision, not caught, just that feeling half way home where you realize you shouldn't have driven that scares the crap out of you (I am a super lightweight drinker and had 3)).
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04-10-2010, 08:47 PM
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#118
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by moon
Because for many posters on here there is nothing more that makes them happy than getting outraged about a situation that they know 0 about to make themselves feel better and like they are good people.
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This is a stupid post, even for you moon.
You see, we DO KNOW. The OP told us. He drank and then drove, which contravened the conditions of his license. It's so simple, even you should be able to understand that.
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04-10-2010, 08:48 PM
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#119
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by longsuffering
Are you really that dense? This is not a 'no harm, no foul' case. You're alcohol addled brain can't make the leap in logic from "This guy doesn't sound like he was a danger at all" to "They got this idiot off the road BEFORE he killed anyone."
I can't believe anyone would defend drinking and driving in any context.
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Did he have one beer, or was he hammered?
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04-10-2010, 08:50 PM
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#120
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sec 216
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Originally Posted by flameswin
Did he have one beer, or was he hammered?
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I think longsuffering thinks they are the same thing.
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