Two Tory MLAs crossing to Wildrose Alliance

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by Azure

I'm not going to go look for sources, but I know when I was in high school there was a huge concern with kids not being ready for post secondary when they graduated.

Biggest problem I can think of with this is that nowadays, people think that ANYONE can or should go into post-secondary, so people who in the past might not have even tried, now find themselves "not being ready", when in the past they would have been considered just not smart enough. Now it's the educational system that is at fault, not the individual's career path choices.

Not everyone can handle university, regardless of the level of education they were subject to.

[LChoy]

BUMP

Some news making it's way from my world. Stelmach cuts short his trip to announce shuffle as early as tomorrow (Tuesday)

Speculation:

- Sustainable resources Minister Ted Morton is said to be headed for finance, where he’d replace Iris Evans.
- Health Minister Ron Liepert would go to energy, taking over from northerner Mel Knight.
- Advanced Education Minister Doug Horner is rumoured to be in line for Liepert’s old job in Health.
- At least two newcomers - Diana McQueen of Drayton Valley-Calmar, and Edmonton’s Fred Horne - will move into cabinet

http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/...737/story.html

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

Some news making it's way from my world. Stelmach cuts short his trip to announce shuffle as early as tomorrow (Tuesday)

And herein lies one of the deepest flaws in our political system. What does a former education minister know about running a healthcare system? The skillset required to run a ministry and the skillset required to get into one aren't the same. Or to broaden it futher, the skillset required to govern well isn't the same as the skillset required to get elected. One of the reasons why democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

Originally Posted by troutman

I'd really like to hear the WRA policy on the discriminatory cap on my income.

Fixed?

[Slava]

Originally Posted by SebC

And herein lies one of the deepest flaws in our political system. What does a former education minister know about running a healthcare system? The skillset required to run a ministry and the skillset required to get into one aren't the same. Or to broaden it futher, the skillset required to govern well isn't the same as the skillset required to get elected. One of the reasons why democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

Fixed?

Well the ministers don't actually "run" anything. They speak for them in the legislature and they do have a lot of influence, but the day to day running is all done by the civil servants.

troutman also doesn't do that type of law, so your fixed isn't really accurate.

[LChoy]

Originally Posted by SebC

And herein lies one of the deepest flaws in our political system. What does a former education minister know about running a healthcare system? The skillset required to run a ministry and the skillset required to get into one aren't the same. Or to broaden it futher, the skillset required to govern well isn't the same as the skillset required to get elected. One of the reasons why democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

Fixed?

Originally Posted by Slava

Well the ministers don't actually "run" anything. They speak for them in the legislature and they do have a lot of influence, but the day to day running is all done by the civil servants.

troutman also doesn't do that type of law, so your fixed isn't really accurate.

Minister's don't actually have to be an expert in their Ministry, they just act as the legislative head of it (with the exception of a Justice Minister, which by law has to be a lawyer) although the Deputy ministers are generally selected for the expertise to their respected Ministry.
Health and Education seems to switch Minister's all the time so it's not so uncommon (Iris Evans went from education to Health, Hancock and Liepert switched, and now Horner maybe coming into health).
Based on the governments plans for the year (ie Throne Speech), Minister's get fully briefed on their Ministry responsibilities and what Premier expects to focus on. It's up to us in the Civil service to provide the advice and the policy direction for the Minister and the government to act upon

[troutman]

Originally Posted by SebC

Fixed?

We will not apologize for obtaining justice for all Albertans.

[Azure]

Well, if nothing else the WRA has forced the PCs to do a cabinet shuffle.

Something not even the Liberals could do.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Azure

Well, if nothing else the WRA has forced the PCs to do a cabinet shuffle.

Something not even the Liberals could do.

Wasn't there a shuffle after Craig Cheffins won Calgary Elbow? Lets not get too far ahead of ourselves here. To paraphrase someone much smarter than me, history might not repeat itself, but it does rhyme.

[Knut]

http://www.660news.com/radio/660news...ip-to-wildrose

Uh-oh... Anders has taken out a Wildrose Membership .... They should reject it.

[mykalberta]

Thats not exactly jumping ship as the Feds and Province arent the same party, but I definately agree they should reject his membership.

[Azure]

Oh please no.

You can't really reject it, but man.

[Boblobla]

And you can keep him.

[Slava]

A match made in heaven!

[travischase]

So without spouting the usual left wing rhetoric and slander, what's wrong with Rob Anders?

I think you should all grow up and move beyond the smear campaign that's been waged against him the past decade.

[Knut]

^ I think it has less to do with the "smear" campaign against him, and more to do with the negative press involved with Rob Anders.

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by travischase

So without spouting the usual left wing rhetoric and slander, what's wrong with Rob Anders?

I think you should all grow up and move beyond the smear campaign that's been waged against him the past decade.

It has nothing to do with growing up. He is an atrocious MP. There are lots of reasons many party members in his own riding want him out but for some reason Harper is protecting him.

You don't have to spout left wing rhetoric to dislike Anders. I went to the U of C at the same time as him and he was disliked even then in the fledgling Reform Party circles.

But let's face it, the Stelmach government is anything but small c conservative and that's why Anders has joined Wildrose. The big problem I'm going to have next election is, do I suck it up and vote for the party with both Anders and Chandler as influential members? Or do I just stay home.

[Azure]

I don't know about you, but I'll be voting for the party with Danielle Smith as the leader.

There will always be idiots in every party. Can't do much about that.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Delgar

The big problem I'm going to have next election is, do I suck it up and vote for the party with both Anders and Chandler as influential members? Or do I just stay home.

What makes you think either of them are influential as members? Or even more influential than any other member?

When it comes to things like policy, all members are eligible to vote. They are only two of 13 or 14 thousand....

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Hesla

http://www.660news.com/radio/660news...ip-to-wildrose

Uh-oh... Anders has taken out a Wildrose Membership .... They should reject it.

... and in other news....

http://communities.canada.com/CALGAR...-stelmach.aspx

[transplant99]

Awesome.

When your own start turning on you, its never a good thing...except in this case it is a good thing for Albertans.