What the players make depends on the auction right? That's a crapshoot.
Some big basher can get bid-up to almost a million while others just had one bidder at the minimum $100000 I think. There have been a few surprises. Some guys were up for auction and didn't even get bought so they couldn't enter the IPL. Sucks to be them.
Is that a fact? As for as I know the salaries paid by the Boards haven't been revealed to the public? Don't forget the sponsorship money the player will lose out on as well. I'm not sure how the sponsorship money works in the IPL but I would think its the teams that make the deals and teams getting the money.
I know that when Ponting went across people in Australia were absolutely blown away by how much he was getting, not just the general public but people in the cricket community. I'm sure teams make sponsorship deals, but why would that preclude players from doing the same? If the Flames sign a deal with Coke it doesn't mean that Iginla can't have his own deal with Coke.
India may be a generally poor nation, but the rich their are absurdly rich and willing to throw money around. Add in the fact that pretty much every major global corporation is looking to establish a presence in the market and the advertising and sponsorship dollars become astronomical. The only way I see this league falling in the near future is the collapse of fan interest, and there's no indication that Indian fans are at all tired of watching. Everything indicates they want more.
I think you missed my previous point in regards to the traditional governing boards. They are going to be forced to make a decision on keeping talent through either increased salaries or more flexible scheduling or accepting the fact that guys in the last few years of their careers are going to be heading overseas and possibly leaving their Test careers a couple years earlier. The IPL is a game changer in that it offers an option to players who have historically been forced to accept whatever their respective national boards told them the deal was.
Agreed. Seems to be a bit of a fight between the national boards and the IPL. Seriously, English players were playing two useless Test against Bangladesh?
The IPL teams won't like that cause the England players are only showing up now, 5 games into the season.
Agreed. Seems to be a bit of a fight between the national boards and the IPL. Seriously, English players were playing two useless Test against Bangladesh?
The IPL teams won't like that cause the England players are only showing up now, 5 games into the season.
I think the elite players will stay with the test sides for the most part, it's those last couple of years of the test career where I think the IPL will have an impact. The same thing has happened with Rugby League and Rugby Union, guys leaving their domestic sides and giving up the ability to be selected for national teams in order to make more money in the UK or France. In those sports even star players near their prime have made big moves, although the physical nature makes getting paid when you can more important.
Test cricket is probably my favorite sport. Once you get all the subtleties and nuances it's hard to find anything that's more fascinating. And it really is amazing how the players can pull it off.
Twenty20 and the IPL are complete and utter garbage. Sure, there's skill involved, but it's essentially like watching batting practise. There's very little strategy involved, very little thought. It's lowest common denominator trash.
How do we sell cricket to stupid people (which isn't to say that all people who enjoy Twenty20 are stupid)? I know! Let's have only 20 overs so the whole thing is batsmen trying to hit boundaries and nothing more. I dunno, but I watched one IPL match this season, and the number of sixes just got freakin' boring. Oh, look, another one. Fascinating stuff.
I get the appeal. I do. I just think it loses everything that makes cricket unique and special.
I pretty much watch almost any test series that's on. The complexity and elegance of test cricket is unrivaled by any sport, I think. And when the 'exciting' stuff happens, it's all the better for it because you really watched the buildup, the thought and care that went into picking that moment. I mean, to me, attack is much more interesting than batting in cricket, and Twenty20 just loses that dimension entirely. Watching a good team's bowlers and their strategy in test cricket is breathtaking.
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^ Are there any different rules for test cricket vs ODI, for example (other than max 50 overs, vs unlimited). I've tried to figure out the rules for cricket a little bit (it's hard when you can basically never watch it on TV), and I think I've mostly figured them out.
Not that I have any clue about strategy. I suppose the fact that games that run out of time in test cricket end up as draws forces teams to try and decide when to declare their innings over, so that they leave time to try and get the other team out. I suppose with unlimited overs, there is more opportunity to be patient - not running anytime it is even questionable whether you can make it.
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There's no real rule difference between any format except the powerplays, you get powerplays in ODIs and T20s and none in Test matches (correct me if I'm wrong). Powerplay is a restriction on amount of fielders at the boundary, you're only allowed 2 fielders outside the circle during the powerplay.
Strategy is quite different in each format, T20 is just hit the ball and get as many runs on board. ODI, you somewhat pace you're innings and try to go on an assault in the last few overs if you still have wickets in hand.
Now test strategy is different. Team batting 1st wants to put on a large total (close to 500 runs is good), run rate is usually around 3 per over. With more fielders around the wicket and batters playing only bad deliveries and stopping/letting go the others (opposite if you're Pakistan) there's a chance of ball nipping your bat and being caught, its basically a chess match between the batter and the bowler. The bowler has the overs to setup his victim, especially if the ball is swinging. Recently there haven't been many draws, usually we're getting results.
heres a great clip of Pakistan's next pace star Mohammad Aamer with reverse swing on the ball.
I watched a few IPL games, and I often felt like the stands were going to collapse at any moment (especially when the cheerleaders got the cheap seats riled up).
Test cricket is probably my favorite sport. Once you get all the subtleties and nuances it's hard to find anything that's more fascinating. And it really is amazing how the players can pull it off.
Twenty20 and the IPL are complete and utter garbage. Sure, there's skill involved, but it's essentially like watching batting practise. There's very little strategy involved, very little thought. It's lowest common denominator trash.
How do we sell cricket to stupid people (which isn't to say that all people who enjoy Twenty20 are stupid)? I know! Let's have only 20 overs so the whole thing is batsmen trying to hit boundaries and nothing more. I dunno, but I watched one IPL match this season, and the number of sixes just got freakin' boring. Oh, look, another one. Fascinating stuff.
I get the appeal. I do. I just think it loses everything that makes cricket unique and special.
I pretty much watch almost any test series that's on. The complexity and elegance of test cricket is unrivaled by any sport, I think. And when the 'exciting' stuff happens, it's all the better for it because you really watched the buildup, the thought and care that went into picking that moment. I mean, to me, attack is much more interesting than batting in cricket, and Twenty20 just loses that dimension entirely. Watching a good team's bowlers and their strategy in test cricket is breathtaking.
I consider it two different sports. T20 won't even kill Tests. If anything it'll kill ODIs.
As I mentioned before, all the skill and romance of Test Cricket is gone. T20 is cricket porn.
Tests are fascinating cause even though it's 5 days, the very first ball is important. Think of it as a best-of-5 series except the scores carry over day to day.
The NZ-Australia Test going on right now is very interesting. NZ has a good chance to win if they can bat this entire day (Day 2)
^ Didn't too well for them, all out at 264. Taylor is such a fine player, a century today. You can be sure of Ausies putting put a big total tomorrow, NZ blew their chance.
^ Didn't too well for them, all out at 264. Taylor is such a fine player, a century today. You can be sure of Ausies putting put a big total tomorrow, NZ blew their chance.
yeah not smart by NZ. With Taylor going like that the others just had to play smart get singles and rotate the strike. Alot of weak dismissals. They needed 100 more.
The next big league in heap of trouble. Tax raids, match fixing, petitions in the supreme court. Not looking good for IPL, there've been reports in the commissioner resigning/fired. Lets see what comes out of it and if it survives.
Now for some great ninja turtle wisdom "Cricket? Nobody understands cricket! You gotta know what a crumpet is to understand cricket! "
I was in South Africa last year and was able to catch a game live and saw a couple on TV. Having never watched cricket, understood cricket, and going into it with the expectations of a terribly slow, boring, dated game I was pleasantly surprised. The games don't last overly long, it's easy to pick up, and there is always action going on. Twenty20 cricket is a sport that hopefully does catch on. I really enjoyed the games and all the conversations I have with cab drivers now are not as awkward.
Go Delhi Daredevils!
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