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Old 03-15-2010, 01:57 PM   #21
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They have about 100 million more records to sell to match ABBA.

The ABBA gold greatest hits alone has sold 28 million and continues sellinf to this day.

I'm basically a metal head but for some reason I always like me some ABBA.

Unfortunate that they called it quits right when they were really starting to hit their stride with "The Visitors".

THey are certainly pop-rock but given many of the other inductees ABBA certainly belongs.

I don't think you'll ever see them take the stage together to perform again. THere have been many chances over the years for that to happen and it never has.


Great reply.

ABBA absolutely deserves to be in the HoF!
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I'm basically a metal head but for some reason I always like me some ABBA.
At the end of the day, they were just really amazing at creating hooks and melodies that made you feel happy even if you didn't realize it.

First it's a little irritating, then you hear it a few times, you hum it in the shower, and by the third listen it's "By Mennen!".
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Mamma Mia is the catchiest pop song ever, and more complex than you might think:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...3:dnfpxxwaldke

Although they started off with simple Eurovision-styled ditties like "People Need Love" and "Honey Honey," the songwriting team of Bjorn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson rapidly progressed in prowess until they were able to craft pop nuggets that were almost symphonic in their complexity. "Mamma Mia" is a great example of this duo's ability to create densely crafted yet totally accessible tunes. The song draws its strength from a complex yet catchy melody full of serpentine twists that give it an almost Asian flavor. To give the song added variety, Ulvaeus and Anderson add a couple of melodic surprises in the form of a punchy pre-chorus bridge whose dramatic staccato sound revs listeners up for the chorus and a soaring mid-chorus bit designed to tug on the heartstrings. These surprise elements beef up the hook quotient of "Mamma Mia" while also giving it an unpredictable quality guaranteed to keep a listener enthralled. ABBA's recording of the song adds a layer of instrumental hooks, including a naggingly catchy xylophone hook that sets up the song and some sprightly string riffs that interact with the lead vocals in call-and-response fashion during the verses. The end result is a veritable funhouse of a pop song that became a big hit around the world and enduring favorite of ABBA fans.
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The RRHOF is a total joke! When Rolling Stone Magazine came out and said that they would make sure that Rush never was inducted no matter what they accomplished in music the RRHOF lost any credibility it may have had with me.
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The RRHOF is a total joke! When Rolling Stone Magazine came out and said that they would make sure that Rush never was inducted no matter what they accomplished in music the RRHOF lost any credibility it may have had with me.
When did they say that?
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The Hollies....long overdue.
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The Hollies....long overdue.

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Love their vocals.

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When did they say that?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jann_Wenner

Jann Wenner when asked about Rush and the RARHOF said "it would happen over his dead body" Any band Jann does not like will never be put into the Hall including Kiss and Deep Purple as well as many others. The RARHOF is whomever JW thinks is worthy and not if they actually are or not. Thus it's a joke.
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Jann Wenner when asked about Rush and the RARHOF said "it would happen over his dead body" Any band Jann does not like will never be put into the Hall including Kiss and Deep Purple as well as many others. The RARHOF is whomever JW thinks is worthy and not if they actually are or not. Thus it's a joke.

Wow, I'd never heard that before, that's ridiculous. How is the RRHOF even relevent if that kind of **** happens?
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I'm a big Reggae fan, so it's nice to see Jimmy Cliff make it. As for the Hollies, I can't believe they are just getting inducted now - way overdue.
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The Elevated boots alone are worthy!!!

They were pre-KISS with those!!

DAMN
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Jann Wenner when asked about Rush and the RARHOF said "it would happen over his dead body" Any band Jann does not like will never be put into the Hall including Kiss and Deep Purple as well as many others. The RARHOF is whomever JW thinks is worthy and not if they actually are or not. Thus it's a joke.
I did not know all this. Disturbing - time for reform (there should be an Academy):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame

The main criticism of the Hall of Fame is that the nomination process is controlled by a few individuals who are not musicians, such as founder Jann Wenner, (who has filled the position of managing editor for Rolling Stone magazine), former foundation director Suzan Evans, and writer Dave Marsh, reflecting their tastes rather than the views of the rock world as a whole. A former member of the nominations board once commented that "At one point Suzan Evans lamented the choices being made because there weren't enough big names that would sell tickets to the dinner. That was quickly remedied by dropping one of the doo-wop groups being considered in favor of a 'name' artist...I saw how certain pioneering artists of the '50s and early '60s were shunned because there needed to be more name power on the list, resulting in '70s superstars getting in before the people who made it possible for them. Some of those pioneers still aren't in today."[15] According to Fox News, petitions with tens of thousands of signatures were also being ignored, and some groups that were signed with certain labels or companies or were affiliated with various committee members have even been put up for nomination with no discussion at all.[15] The committee has also been accused of largely ignoring certain genres.[16] According to author Brett Milano, "entire genres get passed over, particularly progressive rock, '60s Top 40, New Orleans funk and a whole lot of black music."[17]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,1966,00.html

A former board member, speaking only with the promise of anonymity, told me: "It's a club, and she's their groupie. It's all about power and hanging around with rock stars.

We received this letter from a former board member. Here it is:

"Thank you for your insightful article on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am a veteran music journalist who spent two years on the Hall's nominating committee and saw from the inside some of the politics at work.

"I saw how artists were sometimes chosen for nomination because of their affiliations with the directors of the Hall and others were shot down without so much as a moment of consideration simply because some people in that room didn't like them personally or because an artist had bad blood with someone calling the shots.

I saw how Atlantic Records artists were routinely placed into nomination with no discussion at all, due to the large concentration of Atlantic executives on the committee. I saw how so-called critical favorites were placed into nomination while artists that were massively popular in their time were brushed off. I saw how certain pioneering artists of the 50s and early 60s were shunned because there needed to be more name power on the list, resulting in 70s superstars getting in before the people who made it possible for them. Some of those pioneers still aren't in today but Queen is.

"I was finally kicked off the committee after writing a guest editorial for Billboard in which I criticized the Hall for its insider ways.

"Almost ten years later nothing has changed."

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http://www.futurerocklegends.com/Nominating_Process.php
According to Joel Peresman, president and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, Inc., the initial selections are made by a committee of 30 to 35 music business people — who Peresman won’t name (although Fox News purportedly revealed a few names in 2007). Peresman does say, though, that the committee is made up of people from all different parts of the business: "There's musicians, there's writers, there's critics, there's people from the live end, (there's) managers. (There's) a wide selection of people who have all been selected because we feel that they have a good, solid connection to a wide variety of music. Everybody knows a lot about different things, which is what the idea is."
It's unclear why the Rock Hall is unwilling to name the members of the Nominating Committee. They don't exactly go to great lengths to hide them, otherwise they wouldn't print their names in the induction ceremony program every year. If you're interested in seeing the mystery group, we list them here.
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What? This prick hates Neil Diamond! Where is my pitchfork?
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Hey man, Queen rocks.
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Hey man, Queen rocks.
I agree, but the critics are suggesting 50s and 60s artists should be recognized before 70s bands.
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Hey man, Queen rocks.
Queen was my favourite band from Junior/Senior High.
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I agree, but the critics are suggesting 50s and 60s artists should be recognized before 70s bands.
I'm not sure it necessarily needs to be in chronological order (after all being first does not necessarily mean that you are great), but I agree some of the founding acts have failed to be recognized when they should be.
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