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Old 09-12-2005, 09:16 PM   #21
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If I started a Tupac Memorial thread tommorow I'd get flamed
Oh well....things happen when you attempt to immortalize gangsters.



Well, Johnny Cash was an outlaw his entire life. That's what is so cool about him.

He had that sort of beatific air about him near the end of his life but for many of his 73 years he was a drug-addled, gun-toting, brawling, cheating, hoboing troublemaker.

His most famous song is about shooting someone. The original gangster rapper!
Exactly, "I hung my head" is the one I think your talking about, at least thats my favorite. I love the hypocricy when people call out rappers for being "criminals" when their favorite artists were too. [/b][/quote]
Nope, it's "Hurt". Just stop talking.
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I Hung My Head, is about stealing his brothers gun and shooting a man riding a horse, killing someone is a little crime called murder. I wouldn't call Hurt his most famous song rather his most recent (and last) song. So fata off.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:25 PM   #23
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I Hung My Head, is about stealing his brothers gun and shooting a man riding a horse, killing someone is a little crime called murder. I wouldn't call Hurt his most famous song rather his most recent (and last) song. So fata off.
Oh wait I see what you were saying... and you're still wrong.
Folsom Prison Blues... heard of it?

Hung my Head is a Sting cover.
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I Hung My Head, is about stealing his brothers gun and shooting a man riding a horse, killing someone is a little crime called murder. I wouldn't call Hurt his most famous song rather his most recent (and last) song. So fata off.
Oh wait I see what you were saying... and you're still wrong.
Folsom Prison Blues... heard of it?

Hung my Head is a Sting cover. [/b][/quote]
Who cares if it is a sting cover, it's still about Murder. Hell Johnny Cash had tons of songs about Murder that were famous.


Aren't you the guy who always disagrees with someone no matter what they say or am I getting you mixed up?

It doesn't even matter which song. The point was that someone said it's pointless to remember a rapper on the date of his death because he was a "gangster", even though (although he was never "convicted" he has had charges which were never put against him or he was able to beat) Johnny Cash was a rampant criminal throughout his life and sang about extremely similar things (murder) but with a different melody.
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No... Folsom Prison Blues is his most famous song.

Johnny Cash was also a trend setter and music innovator. Brilliant performer and songwriter. He didn't have to sing about bitches and hoes to sell records.
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No... Folsom Prison Blues is his most famous song.

Johnny Cash was also a trend setter and music innovator. Brilliant performer and songwriter. He didn't have to sing about bitches and hoes to sell records.
Neither did Tupac, but thats not the point. It's perceived that since one is a rapper that they sing about "bitches" and "hoes", it's really funny how much of an ass you sound like when you talk about things you've never tried.
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No... Folsom Prison Blues is his most famous song.

Johnny Cash was also a trend setter and music innovator. Brilliant performer and songwriter. He didn't have to sing about bitches and hoes to sell records.
Neither did Tupac, but thats not the point. It's perceived that since one is a rapper that they sing about "bitches" and "hoes", it's really funny how much of an ass you sound like when you talk about things you've never tried. [/b][/quote]
Are you fataing ######ed? How do most "gangsta" rappers sell their music? Songs about casual sex and gangbanging. Tupac Shakur may be an exception, but don't give me any bullshinguard about how he is underappreciated. You basically ruined a good thread here.
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Tupac is recognized as the greatest rapper ever, and rightfully so. I'm just saying there are musical geniuses on both sides and it's not fair to judge the other for the style of music it is even though alot of it has similar content
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Styx were a bunch of fellers from the suburbs of Chicago who sang about ballerinas and castles and shinguard.

Singer Tommy Shaw's only crime was joining Ted Nugent and the bassist dude from Night Ranger to form Damn Yankees.
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Tupac is recognized as the greatest rapper ever, and rightfully so. I'm just saying there are musical geniuses on both sides and it's not fair to judge the other for the style of music it is even though alot of it has similar content
If I recall correctly, this idiocy started when you questioned whether Johnny Cash was worthy of a memorial thread on an off-topic board on freaking calgarypuck.com. Nobody said a damn thing about your beloved Tupac until you nosed in, similarly to the Lance Armstrong thread. Or maybe that was your plan? To bait people's 'hypocricy' so you could expose them for being racists because they don't like rap and rappers?

Not all of us enjoy trying to relate to something we have no fataing clue about.
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Old 09-12-2005, 10:10 PM   #31
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No... Folsom Prison Blues is his most famous song.

Johnny Cash was also a trend setter and music innovator. Brilliant performer and songwriter. He didn't have to sing about bitches and hoes to sell records.
Maybe he didn't have to, but he did singing about shooting his woman and snorting lots of cocaine. Both in the same song!

Johnny Cash is one of my alltime favorites and I own several of his cds and I listen to music by people who were strongly influenced by him (Hank III, Corb Lund, Mike Ness...) but he was a criminal for long stretches of his life. A drug addict, hell even a smuggler. He admitted as much.

I can't stand Tupac's music, but this does seem hypocritical to me. They were both gangsters and they both played up a gangster image to the benefit of their careers.
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No... Folsom Prison Blues is his most famous song.

Johnny Cash was also a trend setter and music innovator. Brilliant performer and songwriter. He didn't have to sing about bitches and hoes to sell records.
Maybe he didn't have to, but he did singing about shooting his woman and snorting lots of cocaine. Both in the same song!

Johnny Cash is one of my alltime favorites and I own several of his cds and I listen to music by people who were strongly influenced by him (Hank III, Corb Lund, Mike Ness...) but he was a criminal for long stretches of his life. A drug addict, hell even a smuggler. He admitted as much.

I can't stand Tupac's music, but this does seem hypocritical to me. They were both gangsters and they both played up a gangster image to the benefit of their careers. [/b][/quote]
But he thought he was her daddy but she had five more...

I saw Corb Lund at on the Island on Saturday. Probably going to go to his show at the U of C.
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Lawrence Gowan is the new lead singer of Styx.

He claims to have "A Criminal Mind,"
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Lawrence Gowan is the new lead singer of Styx.

He claims to have "A Criminal Mind,"
I thought they were touring with Dennis DeYoung in tow this year? Did he decide to head back to Broadway?

Styx wasn't a complete band until Tommy Shaw joined. His voice and guitar gave them a whole new dimension to their sound.

My favorite Styx tunes are "Suite Madame Blue" and "Crystal Ball". Great stuff!
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Wore the only Johnny Cash t-shirt to work today, and as always had his songs in heavy rotation on whatever I was listening too. I work at a co-owned Rock and Country Radio station, and the Country part was doing it's part not to forget the Man in Black today.
That was a sad, sad day for me. I love his older stuff, and I rely heavily on it for the music I try to make.

I'm so glad he was able to get American IV out. The feeling he put into singing that album just blew me away.

I've never seen the video to Hurt. I don't ever watch the vids, but I'm going to have to try to find that one.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:35 AM   #36
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Much like Cowperson my parents played it over and over and over.......
and being born in Saskatchewan, whenever we went to family or friends homes they would play it over and over and over....
whenver there was a hoedown they would play JC over and over and over...

<sigh> wheres that sticking my finger down my throat emoticon?

I guess that was in the days before there was FM radio...AM ruled the airwaves and JC ruled the radio.
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Unreal, Flaming_Idiot if you wanted a September 11th thread, you should have started one. Glad this thread got somewhat back on track too, I'll be starting one next September 12th as well, so get your panties ready to be twitsted then.
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and anyone could have posted a 9/11 thread
Just like anyone could have started a Tupac thread if they want.
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Sorry, was having a bad day and was looking for anything to get passed about.
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Sorry, was having a bad day and was looking for anything to get passed about.
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