The saddest part about this is that those 100 children must now kill themselves in order to avoid putting the shame of this defeat upon their families.
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It would be incredibly easy for an NFL player to injure an average guy within the rules of the game. Incredibly easy. It doesn't work the same the other way.
The numbers also don't help as much as you think in other aspects. A bunch of average guys would be likely to get flagged for illegal contact on pretty much any passing play, pressure on a QB wouldn't be an issue with a shotgun formation and a quick pass, and there's a pretty good chance that at least one average guy would get caught for a hold or illegal block pretty frequently. Kind of hard to win when so many plays are getting called back.
If they were playing 1 on 1, yes, it would be easy for an NFLer to injure a random guy. But, they wouldn't be playing 1 on 1. There would be 5 random guys for every NFLer. 5 well coached guys are going to overpower an NFLer everytime. There would definately be a number of injured NFLers too. 25 guys running over 5 offensive lineman, and there is regularly going to be injured offensive lineman.
If they are playing an NFL team roster, 40 guys, then the 50 guys should have the equivalent percentage of guys on the bench available too (seems fair), in which case, the random guys can pick the 50 most athletic of the 200 guys, and in that case, it's not close. The NFlers couln't exploit the unathletic guys on the feild.
I don't think there would be nearly as many penalties as you think. That's another place where coaching comes into play. Uncoached random guys are going to break the rules. A simple coaching session would tell the guys what they can't do.
Quick passes against the shotgun would be pretty hard to complete. There would just be too many hands/bodies in the way that could knock down the passes. I think it would be easier for the NFLers to complete long passes, as the random guys wouldn't be neaerly as dense further down the feild. But I don't think the QB would have enough time to wait to throw a long pass.
I think it would be an interesting game, becasue both sides would have to adapt new tactics that you wouldn't normally see in a football game.
Since an NFL player can sometimes get past even as much as three other NFL players, I doubt five Joes would be much of a challenge. Thing is, you'd pretty often get something like 10 on 1 gang-ups
I'd say the joe's would have a chance. On Defense rush 10 or so, 5ish from the LB position who should get straight through. The O-line would have no chance. Then jam the WR's and TE's with 2-3 each. The only real threat then is the RBs...but like someone said he'll get tripped up after the 7th guy (if not the 3-4th...).
Offense may be a bit tougher as the D-line could probably bowl through to the Joe's QB, but a quick pass with 10+ blockers may work. Just need to get the ball moving with lots of bodies in front.
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If I was coaching... my strategy would be: tell 80% of the kids to push, shove, and take out the players, then have the rest of them kick it around until they score. Oh, that includes taking out the goalie too
If I am the NFL team I would just rush the ball. There is no way no matter how many guys you put on the line that the NFL team isn't going to get 3 yards a play.
It would be incredibly easy for an NFL player to injure an average guy within the rules of the game. Incredibly easy. It doesn't work the same the other way.
The numbers also don't help as much as you think in other aspects. A bunch of average guys would be likely to get flagged for illegal contact on pretty much any passing play, pressure on a QB wouldn't be an issue with a shotgun formation and a quick pass, and there's a pretty good chance that at least one average guy would get caught for a hold or illegal block pretty frequently. Kind of hard to win when so many plays are getting called back.
Assuming the average joe team used more of a rugby philosophy I think they would do relatively well.
I think the NBA team would lose. Even if they are average and you are nine inches taller than them, 10 guys defending in you in basketball has got to be impossible to beat.
Although the 50-man basketball team would get called for illegal defence early and often.
There are some sports that large amounts of average people would easily beat a regular pro team, some sports in which it would be even, and some sports that the pro team would still easily beat the average people, no matter how many of them there were.
Covered pretty much all bases with that comment!
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There are some sports that large amounts of average people would easily beat a regular pro team, some sports in which it would be even, and some sports that the pro team would still easily beat the average people, no matter how many of them there were.
Like golf.
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The guys playing football aginst the NFLers would obvoisly need the most coaching. The wrong tactics, and they extra players would be useless. However, a group of 50 well coached average guys should be able to score TDs almost at will. 5 average guys should be able to handle any NFL player - easily blocking them enough to run around them. When the NFLers have the football, it should be very hard for them to complete a pass, the quarterback would be swarmed from all sides almost instantly (5 or guys would be easily blocked, but the other 20 or more would have free paths to the QB), and any reciever he throws to should have 5 guys around him, unless that pass is absolutely perfect, and up high, out of the reach of the defenders jumping, they aren't going to be completed, there's just way to many hands that could knock down the ball.
Running the ball would be difficult aginst such a crowded field, sure, the first guy and the second guy migth be thrown aside, but the third or fourth guy would get enough of the ball carrier to get him down, and that wouldn't be far from the line of scrimmage.
I don't think an NFL team would feild the same 11 players they would against another NFL team, I think the NFL teams would put in tall, fast athletic guys, and less slower, big guys. Ialso think the NFL team would be trying a whole lot more misdirection - trick plays.
This is so incredibly lol. The NFL team will get 3-4 yards on every carry. I think you're greatly underestimating how hard it is to tackle an NFL, heck even a CFL caliber running back. On offense the average guys will need to have at least 20 guys just for blocking and even then I'm not sure that will be enough to stop a 5 man rush. These guys are 280 pounds and can run a 40 faster than any of the regular guys. The average guys will be dead tired after 1 quarter.
I don't know if you've ever watched Ed's Up. It's a show with Ed Robertson where he goes all over the place and does cool things. He did an episode where he practiced with the Hamilton Tigercats. They had him run the ball and he didn't gain a single yard until the defense let him score. He was also destroyed after 3 plays. This is against the worst team in the CFL. This video doesn't show him playing, but will give you a comparison as to what the average guys would be up against.
This is so incredibly lol. The NFL team will get 3-4 yards on every carry. I think you're greatly underestimating how hard it is to tackle an NFL, heck even a CFL caliber running back. On offense the average guys will need to have at least 20 guys just for blocking and even then I'm not sure that will be enough to stop a 5 man rush. These guys are 280 pounds and can run a 40 faster than any of the regular guys. The average guys will be dead tired after 1 quarter.
Oh, I know it would be virtually impossible for one average guy to tackle an NFLer. Fortunately, he wouldn't have to do it alone. There simply wouldn't be room for a running back to start running really fast, and the 50 guys would collapse around him, and he wouldn't go far after that.
The problem is that, while the NFL runnng back may be able to get 3-4 yards a play, a well coached group of 50 guys would be averaging FAR more that that per running play. An average guy with 50 blockers should go a long ways.
Oh, I know it would be virtually impossible for one average guy to tackle an NFLer. Fortunately, he wouldn't have to do it alone. There simply wouldn't be room for a running back to start running really fast, and the 50 guys would collapse around him, and he wouldn't go far after that.
The problem is that, while the NFL runnng back may be able to get 3-4 yards a play, a well coached group of 50 guys would be averaging FAR more that that per running play. An average guy with 50 blockers should go a long ways.
How would there be no room for a running back to start running really fast? Are the average guys starting their plays in the NFL team's backfield? Remember we're talking about a play starting from the snap. How are the 50 guys lining up so that they can stop the offensive line from pushing them back?
As for offense, the center would still need to snap the ball and the QB would still need to get the ball to someone and they have to do all of this in the split second before getting annihilated.
The average guys aren't robots, they're going to have a very hard time not being intimidated by the much larger players. Especially after a few of them leave the game with broken ribs.
How would there be no room for a running back to start running really fast? Are the average guys starting their plays in the NFL team's backfield? Remember we're talking about a play starting from the snap. How are the 50 guys lining up so that they can stop the offensive line from pushing them back?
There's no reason why a well coached group of random guys shouldn't have 3-5 guys in the backfield even as the running back is getting the ball. Where's the running back going to go? Run backwards?
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As for offense, the center would still need to snap the ball and the QB would still need to get the ball to someone and they have to do all of this in the split second before getting annihilated.
They'd have a lot more than a split second. Even if the average guys just fall down to the ground, 50 of them would be preventing the NFL players from getting at the ball carrier very quickly. Remember, in a group of 50 random guys, they are going to have some guys that are going to be fairly fast/strong themselves. Not NFL fast of NFL strong, but the sheer numbers they have easily makes up for that. They should have at least a few guys that have played some football before too, in all likelihood, and more that have played other sports, and yet even more that are in decent shape.
Again, coaching makes a big difference in the football matchup. 50 guys not knowing what to do, and not knowing how to work together, and yes they are going to get beat easily. A little coaching, and the sheer numbers gives them a huge advantage.
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The average guys aren't robots, they're going to have a very hard time not being intimidated by the much larger players. Especially after a few of them leave the game with broken ribs.
The intimidation factor and the chance of injury would obviously make a difference if nothing was on the line. For the hypothetical scenario to make sense, there needs to be something on the line, say a large cash prize --something that encourages the random guys to give everything they have.
