Calgary's IQ Goes Down....Sarah Palin In Town Tonight

[flames_1987]

Imagine that, Sarah complaining about the mainstream media.

Someone should get fired for making that headline calling her a Maverick

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

While I agree that there's blind partisanship by the left too, I was simply agreeing that there is no difference between America and Canada's right wing now.

So republicans in the US support universal healthcare? In Alberta and across Canada, last time I checked there was no move to remove universal healthcare, and in fact Alberta is the biggest spender in public healthcare in Canada. Albertans overwhelmingly support public health care.

What about issues like gay rights? Is the right in Canada, based on some sort of religious-based argument vigourously trying to reverse gay marriage? hardly.

How about the abortion debate? Is this a divisive social issue between the left and right? hardly, again.

How about capital punishment? This issue hasn't been prominent or even present on a conservative platform in Canada to my memory in probably a generation.

How about public education? Alberta, the supposed "right wing" heartland of Canada has one of the best public education systems on planet earth.

Bank regulation? I see Harper bragging across the world about our highly regulated bank system. In the US, any such more to increase regulation is branded as socialism. I don't see hoards of angry mobs in Alberta or the rest of "conservative" Canada fighting for deregulation.

I guess conservatives in both countries believe in market principles, with less government intervention into the economy, but between the Liberals and Conservative governments of the past 15 years, there's hardly any distinction in actual policy. "Fiscal prudence" has basically been orthydoxy from our two major parties since Martin became finance minister.

[troutman]

Captain, how was she?

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

While I agree that there's blind partisanship by the left too, I was simply agreeing that there is no difference between America and Canada's right wing now.

Your post would be better if you actually knew what you are talking about.

Why don't you read each parties platform and try again.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Bunk

So republicans in the US support universal healthcare? In Alberta and across Canada, last time I checked there was no move to remove universal healthcare, and in fact Alberta is the biggest spender in public healthcare in Canada. Albertans overwhelmingly support public health care.

What about issues like gay rights? Is the right in Canada, based on some sort of religious-based argument vigourously trying to reverse gay marriage? hardly.

How about the abortion debate? Is this a divisive social issue between the left and right? hardly, again.

How about capital punishment? This issue hasn't been prominent or even present on a conservative platform in Canada to my memory in probably a generation.

How about public education? Alberta, the supposed "right wing" heartland of Canada has one of the best public education systems on planet earth.

Bank regulation? I see Harper bragging across the world about our highly regulated bank system. In the US, any such more to increase regulation is branded as socialism. I don't see hoards of angry mobs in Alberta or the rest of "conservative" Canada fighting for deregulation.

I guess conservatives in both countries believe in market principles, with less government intervention into the economy, but between the Liberals and Conservative governments of the past 15 years, there's hardly any distinction in actual policy. "Fiscal prudence" has basically been orthydoxy from our two major parties since Martin became finance minister.

If the Conservatives had a majority government a couple of those issues would definitely be in play. Issues like abortion and gay rights are major rallying cries for a good chunk of their grassroots.

Really I personally have no problem agreeing that Harper and the old Reform party element of the Conservative movement are comparable ideologically to the American right. The main difference is the minority status and the Canadian people. Harper is an intelligent tactician who wouldn't present the same approach that the republicans do because he knows what the reaction would be.

Just look at the effect Ralph Kleins sabre rattling on Health Care had on the federal Conservatives for years. Statistics show that we are way less Religious and despite the fact that the right wing party is in power, the other 65% of the country votes for one or another party that is centre left or left in the spectrum.

[MelBridgeman]

What is wrong with dumb people?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by troutman

Captain, how was she?

like warm apple pie, sunsets and the dallas cowboys cheerleaders all in one awesome package.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Matty81;2381777[B

]If the Conservatives had a majority government a couple of those issues would definitely be in play. Issues like abortion and gay rights are major rallying cries for a good chunk of their grassroots.[/B]

Really I personally have no problem agreeing that Harper and the old Reform party element of the Conservative movement are comparable ideologically to the American right. The main difference is the minority status and the Canadian people. Harper is an intelligent tactician who wouldn't present the same approach that the republicans do because he knows what the reaction would be.

Just look at the effect Ralph Kleins sabre rattling on Health Care had on the federal Conservatives for years. Statistics show that we are way less Religious and despite the fact that the right wing party is in power, the other 65% of the country votes for one or another party that is centre left or left in the spectrum.

A small portion of conservative believe the crap you are spewing. That is like saying if the grassroots of the liberal party had their say we would be commies and we would do whatever Quebec wants. There are idiot fringes on both sides.
Put down the Toronto Star and stop watching CBC already.

If you actually think the CPC party is on the right of the political spectrum you have no idea what you are talking about.

[MarchHare]

If you actually think the CPC party is on the right of the political spectrum you have no idea what you are talking about.

That depends entirely on your frame of reference.

If you use the United States to define what is "centre", then no, the CPC are not really on the right of the political spectrum. On the other hand, by the standards of Canada and most other Western democratic nations, the CPC are most definitely a right-wing party (although perhaps not as far to the right as some small-c concervatives would like).

[Jordan!]

I find her pretty interesting...
















...In my Pants! Something about her still does it for me, not gonna lie.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

That depends entirely on your frame of reference.

If you use the United States to define what is "centre", then no, the CPC are not really on the right of the political spectrum. On the other hand, by the standards of Canada and most other Western democratic nations, the CPC are most definitely a right-wing party (although perhaps not as far to the right as some small-c concervatives would like).

Really? Perhaps on some issues, but what about many right-wing European parties that border on facsism with the rather scary anti-immigrant stances? Some of these parties have come quite close to actually governing their respective countries in recent years.

Anyway, the main point of comparison was the american right to the canadian right that kicked off this debate. In fact, you're right our political spectrum is quite different than the US.

[JustAnotherGuy]

I would bet her IQ is higher than 90% of the posters on this site.

[RougeUnderoos]

I'd take that bet, assuming the average poster on this site is, well, average.

She's never done anything that would suggest that she's above average and plenty to indicate that she is of below-average intelligence.

But, maybe you can tell us why you think she's so clever. I can find plenty of examples of her being a real dummy, we all know that. Maybe you've seen something I haven't.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

I would bet her IQ is higher than 90% of the posters on this site.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I'd take that bet, assuming the average poster on this site is, well, average.

She's never done anything that would suggest that she's above average and plenty to indicate that she is of below-average intelligence.

But, maybe you can tell us why you think she's so clever. I can find plenty of examples of her being a real dummy, we all know that. Maybe you've seen something I haven't.

Well, she has a degree and she was the Governer of a state Alaska. I would assume that takes some intelligence.

How many people posting here have been a Governer and have a degree?

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by jammies

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony

What is your point?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

Well, she has a degree and she was the Governer of a state Alaska. I would assume that takes some intelligence.

How many people posting here have been a Governer and have a degree?

Going by that logic, you must think Obama is almost super-human in his smartnessity.

Anyway, I think she's dumb because she says and believes dumb things. Why do you think she's smart, beyond her degree and stint as governor? What has she actually done that makes you believe she is so intelligent?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

Well, she has a degree and she was the Governer of a state Alaska. I would assume that takes some intelligence.

How many people posting here have been a Governer and have a degree?

Having a degree doesn't mean anything, I graduated with a slew of slightly functional idiots. If you pay your tuition and swing by one or two lectures a semester you can get a degree. She received a degree in communications from the University of Idaho, let's not go pretending that she's an academic marvel.

Being a Governor isn't a sign of intelligence either, take a look at the resumes of some of the political figures out there. There are certainly highly intelligent people in politics, but it's not a prerequisite.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by valo403

Having a degree doesn't mean anything, I graduated with a slew of slightly functional idiots. If you pay your tuition and swing by one or two lectures a semester you can get a degree. She received a degree in communications from the University of Idaho, let's not go pretending that she's an academic marvel.

Being a Governor isn't a sign of intelligence either, take a look at the resumes of some of the political figures out there. There are certainly highly intelligent people in politics, but it's not a prerequisite.

To be clear. I did not say she was an academic marvel. I stated that she probably has a higher IQ than 90% of the posters here. Based on the intelligence level of the posts and compare that to her accomplishments. I believe she has a higher IQ.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

To be clear. I did not say she was an academic marvel. I stated that she probably has a higher IQ than 90% of the posters here. Based on the intelligence level of the posts and compare that to her accomplishments. I believe she has a higher IQ.

I imagine that at least half of the posters here have degrees or are in the process of obtaining one. I also believe that those who do not have degrees would be capable of earning a communications degree from a tier 3 university. Like I said, earning a degree is not at all difficult and not indicative of intelligence at all.