Hit-and-run killer granted day parole

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by burning_acid1

There are so many unethical lawyers willing to defend these criminals just to rake in the cash. It makes me sick.

God forbid the accused have quality lawyers in order to defend themselves in a FREE STATE. We all know that prosecutors are always ethical, god fearing individuals who would never abuse their power, so why even bother with a trial?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf3

I would think running over them in your car would be a murder charge though. According to the greatest legal scholar of our time, Wikipedia, you don't have to intend to kill someone to be charged with murder. 'Intent to inflict grievous bodily harm short of death' or 'reckless indifference to an unjustifiably high risk to human life' are enough to be charged with murder. I would consider intentionally running over a group of people with your car to be both of those.

This is a common law standard, statutory schemes are based on this but don't mirror it completely. I'm not familiar with the Canadian statutes, but evidently the evidence wasn't sufficient to support a murder conviction.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Hey Locke you wanna go camping?

Now that I have a free shot at murder, I figure you and me can have a final hobo killing showdown.

Winner take all, whatdaya say?

Neither of us will do jailtime.

I'm in, you bring the scotch and I'll bring the cigars. We can rob a bank and get some change...

I'll get my GF to make us some yummy sandwiches, the most deadly weapon in the hobo luring arsenal, combined with loose change from the robbed bank they'll be completely unable to resist!!

It'll be like moths to flame!!

[Phaneuf3]

Just heard on the news that both him and his brother are getting deported

[PyramidsofMars]

Originally Posted by burning_acid1

There are so many unethical lawyers willing to defend these criminals just to rake in the cash. It makes me sick.

there are so many unethical people in ANY profession willing to be unethical to make money. Even academics, who work in a field which encourages them specifically to speak their own opinions, do their own research, and come to their own conclusions has people like Maurice Bucaille and Keith Moore, who claim that the Quran is full of 'scientific miracles' and must be from a higher being, and on the other hand things like the Pioneer Fund and the incestuous nature of the very small group of academic racists who find all sorts of ridiculous things for rather obvious reasons. One of Rushton's conclusions was that there is an inverse relationship between penis size and intelligence. Asians: tiny dicks, really smart. Whites: average dicks, average intelligence. Blacks: huge dicks, no brains. I realize that's nothing more than an ad hominem attack, but really.

[calculoso]

Maybe there is more than meets the eye here...

Following a hearing at the Matsqui Institution in Abbotsford, B.C., the board granted day parole to Samrat Dhuna. This will allow him to live in a halfway house as he completes his 10-year sentence for manslaughter, aggravated assault, hit and run, and assault with a weapon (the van).

Dhuna is not a Canadian citizen and... was ordered deported in November of 2008 based on serious criminality for his convictions in the Dhadda case.

Once Dhuna was granted full parole eligibility, the door was opened for Canada Border Services to finally enforce their removal order.

Currently, arrangements are being made to have Dhuna deported to India.

The National Parole Board tells Global News, the deportation order influenced their decision to grant Dhuna parole.

“As far as the board has been told, there is 99% certainty that he will be removed”

Dhuna is still being held in federal prison; however it is expected he will be taken into custody by Canadian Border Services within the next few days. They will then hold a detention review hearing within 48-hours.

Immigration officials will decide if Dhuna should be held in custody until he can be removed from the country, which could depend on how long it will take to get the deportation order.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Maybe there is more than meets the eye here...

Well, if that's the case, then I like it. Get him out of our backyard and I'm happy.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by fotze

Goddamn weak justice system goes and totally makes up for it.

Just when I thought the legal system couldn't possibly get any worse, they go and do something like this... and totally redeem themselves!

[calculoso]

How does that saying go? "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched"?

It took 6-ish years for Jackie Tran to be deported... hopefully they learned something through that process.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Maybe there is more than meets the eye here...

Way to go and ruin all the knee jerk reactions and outrage. That's the life blood of this place dammit!

[Winsor_Pilates]

The deportation better go through though. If it goes through years of appeals or worse, doesn't happen at all and this guy gets to stay on parole the whole time it will be terrible.

[FiftyBelow]

So if he's deported, is he a free man in India? Or is he just transferred to an Indian prison to serve his term?

[PyramidsofMars]

Originally Posted by FiftyBelow

So if he's deported, is he a free man in India? Or is he just transferred to an Indian prison to serve his term?

If he's done his sentence here then he would be done his sentence period, I'd imagine.

Not that he'll find India much fun, it's a very socially stratified society, you can have an absolutely brilliant life in India, for some people much better than they could ever find here, but it's more likely you end up serving those with the good life, especially with a deportation based on criminality on your record. Indians tend to take morality seriously.

[Joborule]

Well it looks like everything works out in the end. Reminds me of the Obama caption pic of telling everyone to chill out.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Burninator

Is the US justice system any different? Honest question.

The system itself? Probably not.

However, I would think that 99.9% of the time in the US, if you get a 10 years sentence, you will not be out in 3 to serve in a halfway house. In fact, many places make you go the actual term...which is a concept lost on the Canadian parole system.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by transplant99

The system itself? Probably not.

However, I would think that 99.9% of the time in the US, if you get a 10 years sentence, you will not be out in 3 to serve in a halfway house. In fact, many places make you go the actual term...which is a concept lost on the Canadian parole system.

That's simply not true

[Locke]

Now, if he were killed in a hit and run while on day parole, the irony would indeed be sweet!

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by valo403

That's simply not true

What isnt true?

I know it varies state to state...but IIRC the average length served of a manslaughter conviction is 75%.


In this case, that would mean 7+ years.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by transplant99

What isnt true?

I know it varies state to state...but IIRC the average length served of a manslaughter conviction is 75%.


In this case, that would mean 7+ years.

1. As has been demonstrated previously in this thread this isn't a typical parole due to the deportation aspect.

2. Serving of the full term of a sentence is quite rare in pretty much all US systems for first time offenders.

[shermanator]

Herald reporting Dhuna has been deported

The Canada Border Services Agency said that Samrat Dhuna, now 22, was deported on Monday after a conviction for manslaughter, aggravated assault, hit and run and assault with a weapon.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Ye...815/story.html