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Old 03-04-2010, 08:58 AM   #1
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Question Building my first computer & What up with SSD?

First time building a computer, so I'm looking for a little assistance. I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, so I know nothing now I've only purchased Dells in the past

I just want to see that all my components are compatible. I don't want to spend any more, but if $20 gives me a great upgrade, any suggestions would be great.


This is my build: http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/Pub...Number=9008989

I'm building a PC based on this: http://www.maximumpc.com/slide/build_647_gaming_pc

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At a quick glance you should be good to go.
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Your system as it is now will work.

A few things I might change is the motherboard, trying to find one with more USB slots or perhaps built in wifi so you dont need to worry with the extra card

The case you chose only has 4 hard drive bays so if change your motherboard you can sacrifice sata ports for other things.

Those are just nit picky things though. You could save some money on getting W7HP instead. Also most ratings have intel chips rated higher than current AMD chips.
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Case: If space isn't an issue, you probably want to get a bigger one (ie. a Full Tower). My case (Antec 900) is nice, but it barely fits all of my components, and as a result restricts air flow more than I would like. IMO it's worth spending extra bean for a good case. The Antec 1200 is very highly rated: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16811129043
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Looks like you're on the right track - and congrats on your first build.

I HIGHLY suggest you spend an hour of two on Tom's Hardware to get some component information. That said, the individual components look pretty solid (nice work). Particularly the Vid Card.....FANTASTIC card at an incredible pricepoint.

The one thing that I do question......why Windows Ultimate? I'd think you should save a few beans (put them towards a larger case?) and get Professional. The only real difference is BitLocker and a crapload of language support. Unless you've got a ton of illegal material that needs to be secured in Punjab, I can't see a need for Ultimate.
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Case: If space isn't an issue, you probably want to get a bigger one (ie. a Full Tower). My case (Antec 900) is nice, but it barely fits all of my components, and as a result restricts air flow more than I would like. IMO it's worth spending extra bean for a good case. The Antec 1200 is very highly rated: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16811129043
My buddy has two of those cases. He loves them for whatever reason.

I love my COSMOS case. It was alot of money but I love it.

Its the first case I have ever owned that I would even consider not garbaging it when it comes time for a new computer. My only complaint is that it tries to sell cable management as a selling point, and while its ok at it its by no means great.





In Action. It is quite a dust machine though. I have to basically vacuum once a month behind it else my carpet would turn black.

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Case: If space isn't an issue, you probably want to get a bigger one (ie. a Full Tower). My case (Antec 900) is nice, but it barely fits all of my components, and as a result restricts air flow more than I would like. IMO it's worth spending extra bean for a good case. The Antec 1200 is very highly rated: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16811129043
I have the Antec 900 and I regret buying that case. At the time I was torn between the Antec 900 and the Antec P183. Now I don't own as many components as you and space is not an issue for me. But I don't like the bright blue lights on the case, it collects tons of dust and doesn't block any noise from the computer. I wish I would have bought the P183 because there is no stupid (IMO) lights on the case, it wouldn't suck up as much dust and it would be really quiet and it wouldn't stand out as much.

Obviously it's personal preference, but I would prefer my computer tower to not be the center of attention. I would rather it just sit quietly and discreetly under my desk and do it's job and not look like a radiator.

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My buddy has two of those cases. He loves them for whatever reason.

I love my COSMOS case. It was alot of money but I love it.

Its the first case I have ever owned that I would even consider not garbaging it when it comes time for a new computer. My only complaint is that it tries to sell cable management as a selling point, and while its ok at it its by no means great.

Is that a Coolermaster? My brother has the same or a very similar case. It's extremely quiet.

Edit: Derp derp. I see the Cooler Master writing on the side of the case on 2nd inspection.
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Yah its a cooler master

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Do you need the security features that Win 7 Ultimate gives you?

If not you can probably save a couple bucks by going with Win 7 Pro which gives you everything Ultimate does MINUS some security encryption options....

Edit - it will save you $50 by going with Pro if you don't need those security features that virtually no one outside of corporate use would realistically use....
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^^^ Even Home Premium probably is just fine, wouldn't it be?
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I don't think Premium has Media Center. Also Pro has the ability to use XP Mode, which would simplify any compatibility issues.

Edit: I lied, I guess premium does have Media Center. List of features is here.

Seems that the backup utility is only available with Pro, if that is important to you. I just use Synctoy for my backup stuff.
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I'd probably go with Intel. Newegg is good to deal with but here's some alternative ideas from NCIX.

Here's this weeks deals page.

http://ncix.com/promo/promosale.php?...rchmadness2010

And here's a few alternatives

case: http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...R&promoid=1208

or http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...T&promoid=1208

harddrive: http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...i&promoid=1208

memory: http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...t&promoid=1208

core i5 and board

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...s&promoid=1208

5770 video card:
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...e&promoid=1208

Samsung writer:

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...g&promoid=1208

I'd probably go with a better power supply, maybe this, it's 83% efficient compared to the Coolermasters 70%.

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...r&promoid=1208

oh yeah, they'll put together and test a computer for 50$ but you can probably get Memory Express to price match and not worry about delivery.

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^^^ Even Home Premium probably is just fine, wouldn't it be?
Yeah it all depends if he wants XP mode or not.

If OP doesn't want/need XP mode, then Premium will work just fine.
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Thanks for the assistance. I dropped the OS down to Premium and upgraded the motherboard a little bit. I wanted to make sure I kept a couple USB 3.0 ports.

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Obviously it's personal preference, but I would prefer my computer tower to not be the center of attention. I would rather it just sit quietly and discreetly under my desk and do it's job and not look like a radiator.
Same here. I'm having trouble finding one that has a simple black front and doesn't cost a crazy amount. I did find a French Maid computer case http://www.walyou.com/blog/2009/06/0...maid-computer/
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Here's Rodney Reynolds with reviews of the two cases I linked to.

the CoolerMaster 690II



The NZXT Tempest is a little bigger in case you ever want to go for a huge video card. (second part of video)



Yeah, I'd probably try to turn off the LED lights too, if I got one of these cases, otherwise they're plain black.

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Depending on how upgrade-proof you want it, you might need a more powerful power supply. I had a 430w that had real trouble with my current system, and its not anything too crazy or overclocked. Maybe that unit was just bad, but I had to upgrade.
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Depending on how upgrade-proof you want it, you might need a more powerful power supply. I had a 430w that had real trouble with my current system, and its not anything too crazy or overclocked. Maybe that unit was just bad, but I had to upgrade.
If i was ready to build a new computer, I'd definitely go to 650 or 750 watt with a solid brand name with at least 80% efficiency. I've seen some on sale for less than $100 lately. There was one 750 watt on that sales page I linked to but I guess it sold out quickly.

I'd also get an SSD hard drive for the operating system.
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While it's nice that you have picked an aluminum case for $75, for $89 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16811112218) you could have an Lian Li. I highly recommend aluminum for it's lightness but if moving your computer around is not important, you can use the savings you get from a steel case that has more features.

I would also recommend a more powerful powersupply like others have mentioned. It's too bad you just missed out on a great Antec 750watt PSU @ NCIX's sale for $69.99.

For the videocard, I would go with the brand that gives you the best warranty and that's XFX with double lifetime.

I would actually build the computer at NCIX and price match everything to newegg (or anywhere else you find cheaper on shopbot.ca). NCIX has a $5.99 ground shipping on entire order promo now. Newegg will be shipping from the US and you get bundled extra fees for their higher shipping and built in UPS costs. NCIX will be easier to deal with for returns since it's in Vancouver.

Heck, if you can manage it, find similar components at Memory Express and price match NCIX and Newegg (they accept them) in the city (though I know how hard this is since Mem Ex has horrible selection).

Last night I bought a 5870 and ram and a PSU from NCIX pricematched to Newegg and saved about $75 just through pricematching and saving on shipping not to mention it'll arrive sooner (ships from Vancouver instead of California).

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I would also suggest checking out www.directcanada.com out of British Columbia. **You may be able to pricematch from NCIX.**

I built slightly more powerful PC (faster processor, memory and video card) than what you have listed here from newegg but it costs $117.08 less. Most of this is the difference in Windows versions but that difference still allows you to further upgrade the power-supply, motherboard and case.

I used Windows 7 Premium
Athlon II x4 2.8GHZ (upgrade on the 2.6GHZ from Newegg)
G.SKILL F3-12800 (upgrade on latencies of 9-9-9-24 vs 7-7-7-20 of the Patriot)
Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 Vapor-X 860MHZ (upgrade over the 850MHZ)
Wireless adapter is different but pretty much the same
Case - not much difference between the 2
Same motherboard
Same Hard Drive
Same Power supply
Same DVD Burner
Same Bluetooth dongle

  • $105.79 - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT Dvd Oem
  • $57.50 - Coolermaster CAC-T05 Centurion 5 Aluminum ATX Tower Case 5X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT SILVER-BLACK No PS
  • $31.86 - Trendnet TEW-643PI Wireless N PCI Adapter NIC IEEE 802.11B/G/N
  • $136.36 - Gigabyte GA-790XT-USB3 AMD790X ATX AM3 DDR3 2PCI-E SATA USB3.0 2-WAY CrossFire GLAN Motherboard
  • $12.96 - ASUS USB-BT21 Mini USB Bluetooth Dongle Black
  • $189.74 - Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 Vapor-X 860MHZ 1GB 1.2GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI HDMI DisplayPort Lite Video Card
  • $111.31 - G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
  • $85.99 - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 32MB Hard Drive OEM *3YR MFR Warranty*
  • $111.45 - AMD Athlon II X4 630 Quad Core Processor Socket AM3 2.8GHZ 2MB Cache 95W Retail Box
  • $27.50 - Samsung SH-S223C 22X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM
  • $44.85 - Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 460W ATX Power Supply 12V V2.3 20/24PIN 80MM Fan

Sub Total $915.31 (Free Ground Shipping from BC to Alberta)

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